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Ryokurin posted:you need to take Theo Valich articles with a grain of salt. He's been dead wrong several times in the past.
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Longinus00 posted:AMD was never "on top". Having a better product than your competitor doesn't mean you're "on top". They weren't "on top" with regards to marketshare, but they were definitely "on top" in terms of performance during the Athlon 64 vs. Netburst days.
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You know it's a fairly disappointing release when Anandtech doesn't even have a review up when the NDA expired...
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I almost feel like getting a FX-8150 solely to give AMD some pity cash.
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HalloKitty posted:A 22nm Ivy Bridge in the hands of the consumer this year is so far beyond what we could have expected, that Intel will just be miles out of reach of AMD, and they are already comfortably in the lead. Tom's Hardware posted:According to Otellini, first Ivy Bridge systems should become available in Spring 2012. As Ivy Bridge is introduced and ramping up, Intel expects that its profit margins will improve as well. Consumers still won't see them till sometime early next year.
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sincx posted:It's interesting that AMD made the same mistake with Bulldozer (high frequencies with deep pipelines) that Intel made with Prescott. You think they'd have learned from their competitor.
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Agreed posted:but at the peak of AMD's popularity, they failed badly to reach out and grasp the moment.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Uh, yeah? The model numbers at least tell you a decent bit of info about what generation and the like the CPU is, as well as the other stats being listed. The "performance rating" system was entirely marketing with no coherent correspondence between generations of chips and only limited correspondence within a generation I'd argue though that things aren't really better now. Desktop-side try telling someone that an i5 means quad core and no hyper threading while i7 translates to quad core with hyper threading but that performances varied by app and that # cores doesn't automatically equal highest performance, etc. and watch their eyes glaze over. Then go into explaining how mobile i5s can be dual core but with hyper threading and there can be i7s that are the same but also are quad core and with hyper threading, etc. Theres really no effective way without keeping tables/ARK handy. It's just as bad now as it ever was.
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's the rational thing to expect Zen to be power hungry as hell compared to similar performance Intel chips, and to also not get anywhere close to recent ones by the time it's out. At this point it wouldn't be difficult to get within a decent range of Skylake performance since Intel has stagnated on the performance front in order to optimize power efficiency. So while yes, it very well could be less efficient power-wise, I doubt many are going to care if AMD's Zen is 110W or whatever and within a decent performance % of Skylake at 95W for desktop usage if it means some competitiveness back in the market, and especially if Zen is at least overclockable to help make up that % since we know Skylake really isn't. You're also "mis-remembering" the entire Pentium M situation, since the Pentium M was just a continued development of the Pentium III (Tualatin) at the time, so there was no magical "3-year" period where Intel magically had Pentium M "up and running" - it always was "up and running", because the Pentium III already existed. Sure, it took a lot of R&D to get it to where it ended up being, but it's disingenuous to represent it as some magical new architecture. But I'll chalk it all up to "Fishmechism".
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Cardboard Box A posted:Can't trust american companies either. Pick your poison. Apple. 
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Prescription Combs posted:GIGAHERTZ WARS That's what I was thinking, that they could go back to the equivalent Intel rating system somehow.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Yeah, except for the fact that AMD is behind in both clock speed and IPC
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I think I read somewhere that Ashes benefits more from clockspeed than anything else, so I'm cautiously optimistic that Zen might be pretty good. If it can be similar across the board to the results shown with Ashes, my wallet will be ready to support AMD for the first time in 10 years.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I'm not sure they even need to spy. Intel puts all their ideas there on the table, you could do a lot worse than copying the number of ALUs and AGUs, or cache sizes, or whatever. We were always saying though that if they'd hit Haswell-level performance, that'd be great, so why the frustration?
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Maybe someone already mentioned it and I missed it, but it doesn't look like Ryzen is coming out in Q1 2017
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Pentium 4 is also funny because it marks the exact starting point of Kyle Bennett's salt trail against AMD Is there more somewhere that I can read about this? 
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Kazinsal posted:Itanium was really cool on paper but in practice it was a short-lived platform that was hard to write good code for and that you had to warn people you were starting up because it drew so many amps on power-on you were likely to blow at least one breaker flipping the switch Short lived? They're still releasing Itanium successors this year.
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pixaal posted:I thought the last version of Windows Server that supported Itanium was Server 2008R2. I can't imagine any new chips coming out are for new systems, most likely legacy systems or upgrades to software that does not have an x64 port. The wikipedia article makes it look like it's pretty drat dead. I'm sure there's niche markets but you can't even throw server 2012 on it, I'm sure there's some Linux Distro still being updated. Server 2008 R2 is EoL in 3 years too. It sounds like what might be the final revision will come out this year.
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MaxxBot posted:This looks really good, the $389 1700X is barely slower than the 6900k. If these end up being true... :giz giz giz:
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I'd prefer that they not. I think the time for that is long past already. It was my belief that they should have partnered with like, EKWB, or Alphacool to bolt expandable AIOs onto the Fury X instead of the one that got them into legal trouble. To be fair, they could have modified the heatsink to feature LEDs specifically for that photo op.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I didn't know Kyle Bennett had an SA account Even he needs a break from his poo poo forum at times.
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I just want to see leaks on a nice mATX board for Ryzen.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:2000-2001 was also a time when Intel started using every trick (both legal and illegal) possible to make up for getting owned by Jim Keller's second brainchild and managed to hit a two-decade jackpot in the form of anticompetitive laptop contracts. 2000-2001 was when Netburst was superseding the PIII but Intel had a lot of fab space available for PIII cores and thus cheap Xbox contracts.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Reminder: the RX 480 was poo poo because GloFo hosed up, Fiji was a disappointment advertised as an "overclocker's dream", Bulldozer was hyped like crazy even though it under-performed Phenom II's IPC, etc. Wait for loving benchmarks, I can't express this enough times. When Anandtech, TechReport, and TechPowerUp get their hands on retail samples and do a broad suite of benchmarks - then I'll get hyped. Not an instant before. It's a good thing then that they probably aren't coming out with any mITX boards that support Ryzen for awhile, so sounds like it'll be the same situation or worse for you as it with X99 right now.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:that's what the X300 "null" chipset is for, btw Yeah, but I thought there aren't any X300-based mITX boards coming out until later in the spring supposedly?
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Sure hope Intel doesn't go OEM ratfucking again. Reminder: we are now under a Trump administration, with complete Republican control of government. Of course Intel will go back to their lovely ways with impunity.
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eames posted:meanwhile over at amazon... safe to say that these are going to run fairly hot.
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I'm assuming Gigabyte is still poo poo for motherboards? It looks like Gigabyte and MSI are the only two with mATX at launch, so that'd leave MSI I guess as the choice. Edit - never mind, looks like ASUS and Asrock will too. So Asrock might be the best bet? Canned Sunshine fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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AMD CPU and Platform Discussion: Hi Ho, Hi Ho, a Ryzen We Will Go
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kirtar posted:The 1600X (6/12) is supposedly ~$80 less than the 7700K. Even the 1700 is going to be listed for about the same (~$10 less) what the 7700K is selling for on amazon and newegg right now. We'll see how the actual reviews go when the NDA lifts.
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Kazinsal posted:I just want to get off this loving i7-3820 that can't get past 4.1 GHz without collapsing, and I don't want to pay Intel $500 to loving do it, god dammit AMD You seem to really be upset at AMD about Ryzen when tentative signs give us reason to be cautiously optimistic that it's exactly where we thought it'd be performance wise and that's perfectly fine. Let's wait until March 2nd before the salt mines fully reopen.
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SlayVus posted:R5 and R3 Ryzen chips will come out in 2nd half of this year. Probably like at the start of 4th quarter. Best AM4 motherboard is apparently ASUS crosshair if you're going to overclock. The best one to go with for you if you waited for budget, probably a B350 board. R5 is slated for the second quarter, not the second half.
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What time is the embargo expected to drop?
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Rastor posted:My bad about the embargo, people are saying it's actually on release day (Thursday March 2). I was hearing February 28 but that must have been confusion caused by the "Capsaicin and Cream" GPU event. Sinestro posted:Ah, that's nice! So yeah, it'll be March 2nd, which is what I thought before. Thanks! Though now I am suspicious, since it seems like if they were ready to really be excited about Ryzen, they'd let the NDA lift before the actual release date.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Radiation is by far the slowest method of heat transfer; space would be awful. Nam Taf posted:poo poo: in space, you can't conduct heat away since there's no atmosphere with which to do so. Radiation is terribly inefficient by comparison. While I'm not saying it'd work, how would it be different from the flat plate radiators present on spacecraft?
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Paul MaudDib posted:Compared to an Intel 4C processor? Sure, that's the jam of highly-parallel processors. Which benchmarks are the 5820K trashing it? I saw in one OpenGL where it appeared to, but didn't see anywhere else. Toalpaz posted:So like, they're still delivering okay gaming benchmarks and have very good multi thread performance. Even if I turn off SMT I'll have 8 threads to work with? Am I
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stupid for not being surprised or disappointed? I think it'll be an okay offering. Is that foolish? I am interested in video recording and gaming at the same time, so I being the best single thread performance isn't necessarily what I'm interested in.
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I was hoping for at least consistent Broadwell-level performance across the board. I have a i7-4770K now and so any switch to Ryzen would have been solely for a slight-if-any boost but instead to throw a few dollars AMD's way. Guess that won't be happening.
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RyuHimora posted:Except I already stated I bought my setup 2 years ago, and you're leaving out that the used motherboard I would have needed for a 2500K would have been expensive at best an unreliable at worst. Z77 boards would have been available en mass thanks to Ivy Bridge, and the 2500K is compatible with the Z77 chipset, so you wouldn't have had to buy a used motherboard for it.
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