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RedSpider posted:Trevor Noah is hot garbage who's never had an original thought in his life. Don't sign your posts
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Bass Bottles posted:Don't sign your posts I was Born A Crime though.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:14
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Bill Maher DESTROYS feminists; saracens; believers in germ theory
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Jun 5, 2017 06:25
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There is no political correctness in comedy. You can make any joke you want to; the only caveat is it has to actually be funny. Bill Maher's sin wasn't saying "friend of the family" on television; his sin was saying it in a way that wasn't funny. And no, I don't know what the funny version of a joke where that word is the punchline looks like, nor will I until someone actually writes it.
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Jun 5, 2017 07:10
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:There is no political correctness in comedy. There is a line, it's just hard to see unless idiots like Michael Richards start to sledgehammer it.
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Jun 5, 2017 08:31
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:And no, I don't know what the funny version of a joke where that word is the punchline looks like, nor will I until someone actually writes it. when louis ck talked about calling a deer a human being oval office friend of the family it was pretty funny but there was a lengthy setup that revolved around the concept of the use-mention distinction
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Jun 5, 2017 10:23
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I like Trevor Noah.
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:There is no political correctness in comedy. You can make any joke you want to; the only caveat is it has to actually be funny. Bill Maher's sin wasn't saying "friend of the family" on television; his sin was saying it in a way that wasn't funny. And no, I don't know what the funny version of a joke where that word is the punchline looks like, nor will I until someone actually writes it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9jB0arMBs
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Craptacular! posted:There is a line, it's just hard to see unless idiots like Michael Richards start to sledgehammer it. Yeah. But the line is whether or not it's funny, not whether or not it's appropriate. You remember this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boBsEbFgJ4k ? Every straight comedian in the 90's had a version of that impression, but now no one does it. Not because we as a society collectively decided it was inappropriate, but rather we've been hearing variations on that same joke for 50 years now and it's just not funny anymore. Okay...that one's funny. Louis CK. Gizmoduck_5000 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 17:37
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Poor Kathy Griffin, she and Andy Dick and Bill Maher should just play Russian Roulette so that eventually we're short two lovely comics and thus everyone wins.RedSpider posted:Wahhabism/right-wing Islam is arguably the most well financed extremist ideology on this planet, and the American military has been doing their dirty work in the Middle East on behalf of their oil for the last sixty years. Meanwhile, Richard Spencer gets his rear end beat in public by hippies wherever he goes. Claiming that Islam is "arguably the most well financed extremist ideology on this planet" seems pretty far fetched, perhaps you're not aware of pro lifers who bomb womens' clinics, etc? coyo7e fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 20:35
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coyo7e posted:Claiming that Islam is "arguably the most well financed extremist ideology on this planet" seems pretty far fetched, perhaps you're not aware of pro lifers who bomb womens' clinics, etc? Which pro-life bombers were funded by groups to carry out attacks?
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coyo7e posted:I dunno, I hear that Christians have a lot of money - do Muslims even see tithing as a necessary thing? I've seen a hell of a lot of gold in both Catholic and Protestant churches. zakat's a central part of islam, but the means of collection differs by sect. among sunni nations it's generally considered an obligatory part of taxation
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Jun 5, 2017 20:48
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coyo7e posted:I dunno, I hear that Christians have a lot of money - do Muslims even see tithing as a necessary thing? I've seen a hell of a lot of gold in both Catholic and Protestant churches.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Which pro-life bombers were funded by groups to carry out attacks? https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/ https://promoteliberty.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/catholic-extermination-camps/ I mean let's be frank,
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:Okay...that one's funny. Louis CK. The extended cut is good too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwjtNEoRYg
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BIG HEADLINE posted:ISIS pays a salary (which is not much, but more than they'd earn doing menial tasks) to disaffected young'uns and adults who can't get gainful employment anywhere else, and let them rape whomever/whenever they like which takes care of their repressed sexuality and not only adds compensation as a motivator, but sexual pleasure. Also, killing people is a whole lot more engaging and interesting than sitting around getting hosed over by ultra-corrupt governments. the correct answer was "we invaded iraq".
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Jun 5, 2017 21:57
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i love when white comedians bust out the n word imo
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coyo7e posted:... Oh I'm sorry you only will accept atrocities formally funded and run by a distinct church? Centrist #36328 (you) cites the crusades as a counter-argument to the issue of 21st century Wahhabism financed by the oil and gas trade. How original and insightful. 
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The REAL Goobusters posted:i love when white comedians bust out the n word imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k&t=923s
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Jun 6, 2017 01:35
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So is Ice Cube going to make Maher kiss his hairy rear end on live TV tomorrow South Park style for using the n-word?
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Jun 9, 2017 04:26
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The show is going to be so awkward tonight. Hopefully in an entertaining way.
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Jun 9, 2017 23:33
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SeANMcBAY posted:The show is going to be so awkward tonight. Hopefully in an entertaining way. michael eric dyson plays the role of oprah as whitey absolver
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I think Dyson was great, and Maher didn't take the opportunity he was given well at all. I don't think he hates black people, but I also don't think he understands the extent of his own privilege. It could've been a great starting point for an important conversation, Dyson threw the pitch right over the plate, and Maher whiffed on it big time.
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PT6A posted:I think Dyson was great, and Maher didn't take the opportunity he was given well at all. I don't think he hates black people, but I also don't think he understands the extent of his own privilege. It could've been a great starting point for an important conversation, Dyson threw the pitch right over the plate, and Maher whiffed on it big time. oh yeah he totally doesn't get it at all. the i grew up in an all white town in new jersey in the 50s, not alabama and we didn't see race bullshit was just sad ice cube drove the point home a little better when he showed up though
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Jun 10, 2017 03:49
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Ice Cube delivered. Shut Bill right the gently caress up, and gave Symone Sanders a great opening too.
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Bill just can't help defending himself. He wasted two great opportunities for reconciliation with Dyson and Ice Cube because, in his mind, he needed to defend the idea that he isn't racist when that was never the issue. I think I get it: the senator said something bizarre and Maher's mind went to slavery and he took offense. What he didn't realize quickly enough is he isn't allowed to be offended in that way. If a black comedian had made the joke, it would have been pointing out the inherent racism in using the phrase "work in the fields" to them, but Maher isn't black so it doesn't work. He should have said "work in the fields, what is this? 1859?" and it would have made his point without wasting his  political capital.
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Honestly, I think he hosed himself pretty hard this week -- worse than last week. Yeah, everyone makes a mistake, and he made a big one. But he had a week to think about it, reflect on why the thing he said was so hurtful toward black people, and three different, extremely on-point, intelligent, politically astute black people telling him exactly why what he did was unacceptable, and he hosed it up. At that point, it's no longer just a mistake in the heat of the moment. I think he'll probably keep his show, though, since the important things were: 1) He did a flashy bad thing that attracted everyone's attention 2) He made a flashy apology for that bad thing Sadly, the nuance of the situation, both this week and last week, is probably inconsequential, for better or worse for him personally.
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PT6A posted:reflect on why the thing he said was so hurtful toward black people What he said wasn't funny. If he said... Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:"work in the fields, what is this? 1859?" he still would be hurtful to black people in some respects because you're still in theory being reductive to 'the slavery experience' or whatever you want to call it. But it would have been funny, because conservative politicians have an optics problem with racism and you're pointing out it's the kind of verbage that racists use. Instead he slowly paced his way up to a "punchline" where he built up to using a 'forbidden' word at the end of his sentence. It was as if he expected sharp gasps from the audience and for Dyson to faint from just how real he was being. He picked being edgy over being funny.
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Bill makes a rape joke, it's okay. Makes a joke where he says "friend of the family", worst thing ever. There is more to it than the loving word.
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"to which, every Trump beauty pageant contestant said, ‘welcome to our world". I guess even a broken clock is right once in a while RedSpider posted:So is Ice Cube going to make Maher kiss his hairy rear end on live TV tomorrow South Park style for using the n-word? RedSpider posted:Centrist #36328 (you) cites the crusades as a counter-argument to the issue of 21st century Wahhabism financed by the oil and gas trade. How original and insightful. PT6A posted:1) He did a flashy bad thing that attracted everyone's attention coyo7e fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Overtime was worth it just to find out how much David Gregory was down with Cube.
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PT6A posted:Honestly, I think he hosed himself pretty hard this week -- worse than last week. Yeah, everyone makes a mistake, and he made a big one. But he had a week to think about it, reflect on why the thing he said was so hurtful toward black people, and three different, extremely on-point, intelligent, politically astute black people telling him exactly why what he did was unacceptable, and he hosed it up. At that point, it's no longer just a mistake in the heat of the moment. avatar post combo
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egoslicer posted:Overtime was worth it just to find out how much David Gregory was down with Cube. He legit seems like a real hip hop head.  It was pretty funny to see Bill think about pushing back against some of what Ice Cube was saying but then realize it would probably make poo poo worse and just shut up.
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SeANMcBAY posted:It was pretty funny to see Bill think about pushing back against some of what Ice Cube was saying but then realize it would probably make poo poo worse and just shut up. that's the thing; all he had to do was not push back at all. same with the opening interview with michael eric dyson it was said earlier, but dyson gave him every possible out imaginable and all he had to do was stick with the apology and make no excuses for himself ultimately none of it matters, his show will continue and most everyone will forget about it in a week
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I think Bill apologized well enough and has realized his old 80's comedy circuit quotes are no longer appropriate even if they come out unplanned........remember that Bill grew up watching stuff like The Jerk and Blazing Saddles, both of which are unconforfortable now but definitely not racist or made by racists..........but would be completely inappropriate today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBJDz4ylQO0 ...also a reminder how hot Bernadette Peters is/was/whatever.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNIARQGIYA Bill's old. I'm almost 49 and old too not Bill old but still we watched the hell out of these movies growing up and quoted them all the time.......
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Ice Cube did not want to be there. Holy cow.
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fart blood posted:Ice Cube did not want to be there. Holy cow. I didn't get that vibe at all and he stayed around for Overtime. 
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SeANMcBAY posted:He legit seems like a real hip hop head. fart blood posted:Ice Cube did not want to be there. Holy cow.
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Bill interrupts people saying interesting things a lot so he can repeat stupid talking points
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Bass Bottles posted:Bill interrupts people saying interesting things a lot so he can repeat stupid talking points "Your opinion cannot compete with my arsenal of intern-scrawled *fact cards*!"
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