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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

IRQ posted:

It doesn't mean anything, because he meant to say Lena Dunham, which also doesn't really mean anything beyond the standard alt right braying of snowflakes and trigger warnings and cuck, etc etc.

She just has a really unfunny show that young white men aren't the target audience for. And it's right there in the fuckin' title too.

Hrrrmmm....

I guess we're forgetting when she took over HRC's twitter during the campaign as a really pathetic way of trying to appeal to millennials?

Milo is a slimeball, but he's right about that One Thing.

Edit: "Party of Lena Dunham" is actually pretty apt for the neo-liberal centrist Democrats. Out of touch, and in power due to nepotism.

Matt Zerella fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Feb 22, 2017

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

:barf:

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

notthegoatseguy posted:

No, it wasn't.

:lol: if you don't think Clinton was stacking the DNC in her favor from 2008 on.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

no idea what this could mean

Chemtrails!! FEMA coffins!

*cranes neck towards DWS and the email leaks*

While it wasn't rigged, it was absolutely stacked in her favor and your replies handwaving everything away would be funny if I didn't have to see Trump on TV as president every day.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

Pence is still better than Trump/Bannon. He's evil but at least he is a competent adult. Trump is literally an existential threat, due to his utter lack of ability, judgement, or concern. He is a future extinction event. Pence is just a very very hateful republican.

Pence/Ryan is as bad as Trump/Bannon. Possibly worse because they understand how the govt works.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Yes, Pence has the potential to be worse than Trump. A dumbshit manchild on twitter vs a guy who caused an AIDS outbreak in his state.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Pence or Ryan with a republican controlled congress would unironically implement in this: http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

Bannon is also a competent adult and he knows how to take advantage of Trump's stupidity and invincibility. He's worse than Pence.

Plus, if the GOP is forced to oust Trump they will infuriate Trump's fans and possibly lose tons of support.

And also there's a thing you keep ignoring called "Trump will cause WW3"

1. Bannon is an evil slime ball but he wants to dismantle the machine of which Pence comes from.

2. Trump got about as many votes as Mitt Romney. He didn't add anything to the process. His campaign just won electoral votes where Hillarys campaign stupidly ignored. Republicans would be Just Fine without MAGA support because they've built their party from the local level up.

3. I have serious doubts a potential WW3 breaking out will be Trumps doing. The way trade and economies work nowadays, a global war would not go well. My main worry is Syria, which who the duck knows what's going to happen there. So maybe stop with the histrionics there.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
A lot of those votes were also Obama-Obama-Trump voters too.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Slickdrac posted:

They have time to figure it out and learn how to craft things to pass a low information sniff test. Lets say it takes a year. Would you rather nearly 4 years of Pence, or nearly 3 years of functional Trump/Bannon.

I'll take option 3: the sweet release of death

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I'm watching the episode right now and this Nomani lady is really really bad.

Ellison represents identity politics, not loving Perez?!!?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Neoliberal isn't a new term and it's been the democrats since Carter.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
The establishment are a bunch of corporate whores who are ignoring both the middle class and young people in this country. So yeah, people got attached.

The difference is Bernie is cool and good and Trump is bad and dumb.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

DoggPickle posted:

I absolutely agree with this 100 percent, but I don't think "Bernie is cool" is ever going to take off as a slogan. :laffo:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mg9ZTwZCOCk

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

IRQ posted:

Hmm let me think of the proper way to explain

Typical yellow journalism :sad:

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

precision posted:

If Russia has anything on Trump, it's probably financial and extremely illegal, the kind of thing that can't be downplayed with alternative phrasing like "locker room talk".

Nothings going to stick with him as long as the democrats are feckless centrists intent on telling the left and young to go gently caress themselves and get in line.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

or you know maybe it's the whole circular firing squad thing but don't let me chop the feet off your high horse

God forbid a party that's been rotting away for 8 years allow some new blood in, because hey, that socialist from Vermont is scary and "we're capitalists".

Trump's gonna get 8 years unless something changes and gently caress your concern trolling over circular firing squads.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

It's not concern trolling it's a genuine problem.

No one is "disallowing" fresh blood, people are voting how they feel is best. If you don't get the votes you don't get the power. Do what you need to do to get there, or other people will instead. That's how it works.

Bernie spent years as an independent and then lost to a long-time democrat. That's not because of fowl play, that's because Bernie failed to build a big enough base of supporters. Maybe if he had been part of the Democratic party for some of his 30 years he could have done that.

It's the dumbest thing ever to scream bloody murder because you don't immediately get your way on the first try. Bernie supporters love to shout about how Hillary refuses to blame herself for her own loss, but they won't apply that same logic to Bernie. Just like how this Russia stuff is "conspiracy theory BS" but oh the primary was rigged.

He did a great job destroying the reputation of the eventual winner of HIS party, though.

:lol: I'm done arguing with you because that's complete bullshit.

E: jesus christ, this whole post reads like a compilation of replies to Neera Tanden tweets.

Matt Zerella fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Mar 3, 2017

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Enjoy a Republican supermajority in 2018 and a Corey Booker loss in 2020!

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Adam Curtis did a pretty good documentary recently called Hypernormalisation. It's kind of sprawling and kind of loses focus on parts but the part on Putin and Syria and the guy who helps Putin orchestrate things (I forgot his name) was fascinating.

Putin doesn't really scare me (he makes me scared for his political opponents and the people inside of Russia) but some of the people around him are some scary motherfuckers. Much like Trump.

The Adam Curtis interview on Chapo Trap House put the documentary in focus a bit.

I also loved the doc he did in 00s about the rise of radical Islam and the neoconservatives in America. I think it was called The Power of Nightmares. He's good.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Solvent posted:

Hah, yeah. Imagine if Ryan stepped down first. " Unelected President X" sounds like a bright future for America.

As opposed to the really bright one we have now with a piss pig and a Lego guy who caused an AIDS outbreak in his home state?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

The Muppets On PCP posted:

santorum carrying water for the white house and neera tanden's hilarious line about the russkies attacking clinton from the left and the right, that was about it

Wait, Tanden was on? Gross

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

IRQ posted:

I don't know how anyone can interact with Rick Santorum and not want to cave in his skull with a 2x4.

For the first 5 minutes he was the only sane one and the Neera started talking and WELP.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Solvent posted:

A lovely snipe at people who voted for Jill Stein...

gently caress you Bill.
My vote for president didn't matter.
California was called for Clinton months in advance.

If I could go back to November I'd change my vote to Bernie since nothing matters in NY when it comes to presidential elections.

But still, lol at voting for Stein.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Solvent posted:

Well yeah, she's a hippie who sings poorly and questions the efficacy of vaccines, but Clinton was just as complicit in the DNC shenanigans as Trump is regarding Russian involvement.

Bernie was out, and valid write in or not, it seemed better to try and get the Green Party more funding.

I'd be down for giving the Green Party funding if they did more than only give a poo poo about presidential elections.

Luckily Hillary and Schumer got my vote under the Working Families ticket here so they can get more funding since they're cool and good.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
All states should have fusion voting. It was an extremely small way for me to say gently caress you to the democrats and help a smaller party but not throw my vote away.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

The Muppets On PCP posted:

lol if your state legally recognizes third parties other than libertarians

Working Families Party is extremely good unlike libertarians who are extremely bad.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Propaganda Machine posted:

Or even just field a viable candidate. I don't actually think Stein would have been worse than Trump, but it's a valid debate.

I'm inclined to agree. She didn't stand for anything. She just pandered to whoever asked her a question. And her vaccine stance is heinous to me doubly so since she's apparently a doctor.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Super Deuce posted:

It's like you guys have taken the Reddit memes about candidates and turned them into your own views instead of actually reading their stances yourself. Good job.

Stein and Johnson were loving terrible is a meme?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
:allears:

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Bill is absolutely a liberal in the lovely mold of Hillary Clinton and Cory Booker.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Craptacular! posted:

I listened to it around election time at somebody's recommendation (that episode I was referenced was last September) but I couldn't handle it. The sound quality is horrible, and they're more charismatic than they are knowledgeable. And there's too much of that poo poo on TV anyway.

However if you're going to listen to "smart person goes on show and tries to educate comedian", then it beats Real Time. Unless they start ranting about TV shows or something.

Smothbrain spotted.

This weeks episode on healthcare is possibly the best thing online right now.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Apparently we're getting more Gorka this week. COME ON DOWN TO THE WHITEHOUSE

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
They're so loving close to realizing the struggle of the middle class and then they lose it (the interview with the author) and the funny thing is they opened with "REEEE MEN DIDNT VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHES SO SMART"

Jesus Christ.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
:lol: you voted for Jill Stein

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Death to Wall St

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Purity Test is code for "poo poo I don't care about and wish you'd stop talking about" and if you use it unironically you're a terrible person and part of the problem.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Also gently caress identity politics and anyone who defends them.


No war but class war.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Bass Bottles posted:

Bernie Sanders has 3 houses.

It's sounds like you're dismissing racism/sexism/homophobos etc as unimportant issues, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.

I think people in here have really cartoony two-dimensional images of centrists as people who literally cackle as they steal money from the poor but I believe that there are a whole lot of people out there genuinely trying to make the world a better place. They might be misguided sometimes, or unintentionally ignorant, but it's a huge mistake to dismiss everyone as "the enemy" and put them on the defensive. It's definitely not a winning strategy.

The basket of deplorables thing really was Hillary's biggest gaffe because it fed into a pre-existing narrative of "these people hate me no matter what I do." It's a mistake to emulate it, especially on your own team lol

I know this is difficult to avoid and I'm obviously guilty of it, too, but I think we all need to work hard to figure it out because the right doesn't seem to struggle with this quite as much.

Source your quotes please. This sound like it was lifted from hillaryis44 in 2007.

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Not to mention the damage Bill did to black communities with his welfare and criminal justice reform bills.

Democrats are loving garbage and he worst part about all of this is Trump and the Freedom Cacus are so bad they think they don't have to look inward and realize being the party of Wall St that plays lip service to minorities and gay people is going to loving cut it anymore.

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