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Apoplexy posted:probably going to be the nominee and then president Keep dreaming.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2015 22:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:24 |
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I'm extremely disconcerted about how much I don't hate John Avlon in this. He's always been such a twit, and he's... not... here. EDIT: How loving high is Maher tonight? This Neil deGrasse Tyson interview is extremely cringeworthy. He really needs to cut back on the weed, he was even more of an embarrassment to himself than usual. PT6A fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jun 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 05:29 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Bill just said they booked him in the future without a date. The feud was just JK Rowling tweeting about how satisfying it was to see Piers being told to gently caress off on live TV (a thing which no reasonable person can possibly disagree with, IMHO), and then Piers being a petulant little twat about it like he always is, with a side-dish of being a smug rear end in a top hat who considers himself too good for popular media like Harry Potter and Star Wars. He could use another punch in the face, is Clarkson available?
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2017 23:21 |
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Craptacular! posted:gently caress you. I went to public school for just two years of my K-12 and was so bullied (including theft, assaults, and death threats) that I would have committed suicide and not been here today if I had gone to the public high school. This is the problem with addressing private education: societally, it's incredibly easy to see that the problem with private schools is that those with means use them to escape lovely public schools, which they then ignore and de-fund; however, addressing this by simply saying "no more private education" right away means that the cost for the eventual improvement of the public school system will be measured, in some cases, in human lives, not to mention kids that suffer other problems as a result of substandard public schools. That's also unconscionable.
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# ¿ May 8, 2017 00:32 |
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Did Bill actually say the n-word just then?
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 03:14 |
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"Let me, a white person, explain to black people when and when not to feel upset about someone saying a racial slur. The poor dears probably just don't understand the subtle nuances of white comedy." If you're white, it's none of your goddamn business. You can hold the opinion that it was wrong for Bill to say that, you can hold the opinion that it was okay, but ultimately it doesn't matter. Each black person, individually, gets to make the choice as to how unacceptable they feel it was. Some black people think it was okay, a lot think it wasn't, and it ain't white people's place to tell either group they're wrong.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 15:46 |
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wow you're right, a character saying something in a movie is exactly the same as a comedian saying something on a talk show. It's all so clear to me now!
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 16:34 |
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If you don't understand the difference between a real person and a role in a movie, I'm not sure I can explain it to you.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 16:41 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:“Friday nights are always my worst night of sleep because I’m up reflecting on the things I should or shouldn’t have said on my live show,” Maher said in a brief statement Saturday. “Last night was a particularly long night as a I regret the word I used in the banter of a live moment. The word was offensive and I regret saying it and am very sorry.” That's a pretty good statement, as far as damage control goes.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 20:10 |
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From what I've seen on Twitter, it seems like a lot of black people are pissed but in a, "you hosed up, now apologize and then don't do it again" sort of way, and some don't really seem to care either way, but some of the (non-black) Muslim political commentators I follow smell blood in the water and are really trying to make an issue of it.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 21:12 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:lol when I think leftists or even just people leftists should coddle I definitely think of a bigoted piece of poo poo like bill maher who never met a muslim he didn't want exterminated The weirdest thing is that making a lovely joke that used the n-word could actually end him more plausibly than any of the other poo poo he's pulled. Let's face it: that "joke" wasn't even the most racist thing he said on Friday night's show. Not only are Muslim extremists not a bigger threat to Americans than right-wing white extremists, ordinary Muslims are loving being targeted by both groups, both inside America and outside of America. And the KKK is a gently caress sight more of a problem for, you know, literally all the non-white people in America than some nebulous threat of Islamic terror. But, no: racism happens if and only if a white person says the n-word.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 09:42 |
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Super Deuce posted:Yes. They do. Everyone does. Are you an anti-dentite for making a dentist joke? No. It's a loving joke. Everyone can make any joke they want. Indeed, everyone can make any joke they want. That doesn't give everyone a pass to say whatever they like, in the context of a joke, without any criticism for it ever. George Carlin said the n-word. Louis CK had a bit about how "the n-word" was itself bullshit, because it makes you think about the actual word when you hear it (and he did say the actual word during that routine). I think they're both very funny comedians, and I don't think they're racist just for using that word*. Bill said that word, whilst making a joke about slavery; it was not a particularly funny joke, and it certainly could offend people. He's admitted that, and apologized for it. I don't think he hates black people, and I don't think he needs to be fired, but I can very easily believe both of those things while still admitting he shouldn't have said what he said. I will also say this: I've made bad jokes of a racist character before in the heat of the moment, such as it is, and two things are true: yes, it's easy to get carried away without realizing it until it's too late, and, yes, you need to loving own it and apologize for being offensive. It shouldn't be the end of the world, but obviously the people who you offended should be satisfied that you're actually sorry for saying the thing you said, and not just sorry that you got caught. You don't get a pass for being offensive just because you were attempting humour at the time. * Theoretically speaking, I personally would have no problem with saying the n-word in the context of a quote, or discussing the usage of the word, or singing along with rap songs, because I think saying the word is different from using the word; however, it's really not my place to set standards for the usage of racial slurs, and the people against whom those slurs are used say, for the most part, "don't say it ever" whether as a joke, or in a discussion of the word itself, or in the context of a quote, so I'm just not going to do it at all.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 05:26 |
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I think Dyson was great, and Maher didn't take the opportunity he was given well at all. I don't think he hates black people, but I also don't think he understands the extent of his own privilege. It could've been a great starting point for an important conversation, Dyson threw the pitch right over the plate, and Maher whiffed on it big time.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2017 03:41 |
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Ice Cube delivered. Shut Bill right the gently caress up, and gave Symone Sanders a great opening too.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2017 03:50 |
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Honestly, I think he hosed himself pretty hard this week -- worse than last week. Yeah, everyone makes a mistake, and he made a big one. But he had a week to think about it, reflect on why the thing he said was so hurtful toward black people, and three different, extremely on-point, intelligent, politically astute black people telling him exactly why what he did was unacceptable, and he hosed it up. At that point, it's no longer just a mistake in the heat of the moment. I think he'll probably keep his show, though, since the important things were: 1) He did a flashy bad thing that attracted everyone's attention 2) He made a flashy apology for that bad thing Sadly, the nuance of the situation, both this week and last week, is probably inconsequential, for better or worse for him personally.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2017 04:21 |
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I'm Dan Savage's bright white sneakers and unbuttoned shirt from before Bill Maher ranted about how millennials dress like poo poo.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 03:59 |
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No Luck Needed posted:Bill tired of doing Overtime on youtube? I agree, the third guest is usually either an insufferable rear end in a top hat trotted out in the name of some kind of ideological balance, or someone who never manages to get a word in edgewise.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2018 20:52 |
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I think Bill hit the bong one time too many before the show, he was particularly crazy last night. Why the gently caress are you arguing about bread, you nitwit?
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2018 14:29 |
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rich thick and creamy posted:Did anyone else get the impression that Maher didn't let *anyone* get a word in edgewise? He just kept jumping in and not even let his guests finish a thought. He might need to lay off whatever he snorted before going on last night. Yeah, he was really loving intoxicated with something last night. That's the exact impression I got.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2018 21:01 |
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What is it with the "annoying atheist" brigade that blinds them to the inherently religious, bullshit nature of present Israeli foreign and domestic policy? I mean, I understand not liking the degree to which Islam is associated with law and government basically throughout the Middle East, but how in the actual gently caress is an explicitly religious, expansionist ethno-state the answer (or even an answer) to that problem? And worse: they seem to be cheering its most disgusting actions and worst excesses, to the point I imagine the Israeli left would be wondering "what the gently caress is wrong with these people?"
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2018 14:45 |
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Just want to put this out there: if you are dumb enough to eat a Tide Pod, I encourage you to eat as many Tide Pods as possible, and follow them with a bleach chaser just to make sure the job is finished. Why are we looking at this as a bad thing?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 15:00 |
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doctorfrog posted:I guess some day we'll look down on smokers for being so dumb as to breathe fire into their bodies and be shocked that the tobacco companies lied to them about health risks. Literally no one ever thought smoking wasn't bad for you on some level. It's self-evident, it makes you cough, makes it more difficult to breathe, and affects the oxygen capacity of your blood. People smoke because it's enjoyable, and once you're physically addicted, not smoking is the opposite of enjoyable as well. Eating Tide Pods does not strike me as enjoyable on any level, so it really can't be compared.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 23:44 |
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Gimmedaroot posted:I just can't see West coming back. He's pro-Bernie, he criticized Obama, his friend Tavis Smiley has been tossed in with the rest of the #metoo offenders (despite this week's final Rule, it won't influence guests), he's firmly against Israel's policies against Palestinians...the only way Maher has political opponents on his show is if they are Republican morons. Maher will make the excuse of not having West on because he's too far left. However neo-cons like David Frum are perfectly fine since they are teaming up with neo-libs in their mutual hatred of Trump. There's as much chance of having West back as there is bringing back West's friend and fellow progressive professor Richard Wolff. There was the whole thing where Cornel West went loving nuts and attacked Ta-Nehisi Coates, so maybe let's not pretend there aren't some very good reasons he should be excluded.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2018 05:31 |
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"Billy Bush, the panel got together and decided to serve you a heaping portion of: your own rear end." Watching that gently caress get destroyed filled me with a deep satisfaction.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2018 12:47 |
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Wow, Bill is loving super bad and wrong tonight. Roseanne good, David Hogg bad You smoked too big a weed tonight, Bill.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 04:09 |
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While I appreciate why it's a bit of a sore spot for him, he doesn't seem to acknowledge that, unlike Laura Ingraham, he's not a completely garbage human being, so it's a different situation. And they were correct: this shouldn't have been the thing that finally takes Ingraham down. Many, many other things should've done first. But, on the other hand, I'm not upset that this is the one that's taking her down, and I also don't think it would've be possible if she was an otherwise decent person who made one simple mistake. Basically, all Bill's whining seemed like: https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 14:45 |
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Like anyone is going to boycott HBO over Bill Maher. Dude busted out the n-word and survived it.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 18:58 |
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I am willing to bet that Peterson and Maher together will be Extremely Bad and I wish Maher and the show's staff would exercise better judgement regarding not having toxic assholes like that on. Maher is tolerable, but only when his moron guests don't bring out the very worst of his impulses.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2018 14:51 |
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Rand Ecliptic posted:Well, that'll pretty much do it. Thanks. He's a particularly insidious form of human trash because, unlike someone like Alex Jones or Donald Trump or Ben Shapiro, it's not immediately obvious that he's an awful person. He's very adept at seeming reasonable while espousing terrible, terrible opinions, and that's a big reason I think his appearance on Bill Maher is going to be a complete garbage fire.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2018 14:18 |
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Why has Kermit the frog tucked his tie into his pants? What a pillock.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2018 03:34 |
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Why shouldn't Avenatti run for office? He obviously has a gift for publicity and self-promotion, fairly decent instincts, and he knows the law. I have no idea if it's something that interests him in any way, but he certainly seems like he'd be a decent candidate.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2018 19:06 |
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Who would've guessed there's be someone so, so goddamn dumb that even Bill Maher could repeatedly own them? Ross Douthat is that dumb. He is a broken clock that inexplicably appears to be correct even less than twice per day.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2018 03:58 |
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huge pile of hamburger posted:Duncan Hunter is a literal moron True!
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# ¿ May 12, 2018 14:39 |
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I think it's really easy for atheists, in general, to get caught up in Islamophobia, because speaking from my own experience growing up in a completely non-religious household, in very non-religious places in general, it's a little difficult to understand why someone would practice a religion in a non-fundamentalist way, so there's a constant suspicion that religious people are always batshit insane just underneath the surface, and that paranoia is only exacerbated by cultures that put a high value on religious identity, and religions that people may not have closely encountered. It's not until I had a good friend who was a practising Muslim that I reexamined my feelings toward Islam and Muslims in general. I suspect Bill just hasn't had that, and he's been such a vocal rear end in a top hat about his Islamophobia for so long that I doubt he ever will. It's too bad, but I can accept that he's got an interesting perspective at times, and a decent show, even if he really loving pisses me off sometimes. The comments on Israel this week were inexcusable, though.
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# ¿ May 22, 2018 00:30 |
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Super Deuce posted:As far as I"m concerned, Islamophobia is a nonsense term, because phobia means it's irrational. It's not irrational to be fearful of all religions, as (practically) all religion is terrible and support rape, murder, etc. Good job illustrating my point, I guess?
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# ¿ May 22, 2018 02:44 |
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Hey guys religion is bad and irrational and now on a different subject let me tell you why a religious Apartheid state based on continuous settler colonialism is just the greatest
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# ¿ May 22, 2018 02:46 |
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Former Human posted:I can't decide if Colion Noir is dishonest or profoundly ignorant. Bill pointed out the gun show loophole and Wayne LaPierre's flip-flopping on guns in schools, then Neera Tanden made a bunch of counter arguments to Colion's dumb talking points during Overtime. The guy seemed genuinely surprised, like that was the first time he had heard any of that information. Maybe read up a little on your own position before going on TV. Hey who would've guessed that the NRA's (Paid) Black Friend would turn out to be an idiot? My god, I'm sure shocked at that, let me tell you!
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2018 14:36 |
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God the democratic congressman was uninspiring. I AM WHITE HU-MON MALE, PLEASE ENTER SET UP FOR TALKING POINT...
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2018 14:28 |
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The Franken take is not great, but it's nowhere near as offensive as the throwaway "even Indians can do it!" line or whatever. Frankly, that was worse and deployed with even less thought than the infamous "house [n-word]" comment and no one seems to be paying attention to it.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2018 13:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:24 |
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Super Deuce posted:No jokes allowed on this comedy show! Implying that something is so easy even the Indians can do it isn't a joke, it's just racist. It's not clever, it's not funny, it's just an implication that Native Americans are stupid or incompetent.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2018 04:13 |