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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Just FYI, that Herman Miller 20% off sale is going on in the US too. It's 20% off office chairs and 25% off everything else.

I loving LOVE my Embody Gaming chair, even though I've only gotten to sit in it for a few hours a week so far. It's super comfy once adjusted and it cleans off really easy. I also love the (optional, third-party) matching Atlas headrest I got with it, since the Embody back doesn't rise high enough to support my head and it feels weird to me without a headrest. Just be aware that the bolts on the Atlas headrests need to be tightened SUPER tight to stay in place, and there's a chance that the headrest may move slightly even after that. There may be grip-enhancing products out there that can fix that small issue though.

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Termyie
Aug 18, 2022

Always choose violence.


I just grabbed a Steelcase Think V1 from Facebook Marketplace for $170 as a chair for my hobby desk. It easily beats out anything else I was looking at for this purpose and price. Still can't beat my Embody.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


They're good chairs, I got a couple from a bankrupt company for £80 each about 14 years ago (:corsair:). Things that tend to fail on them are the gas strut can spin around where it goes into the seat frame and pop the cable out that activates the lift, it's an easy fix to put it back in and maybe add a zip tie to hold it. I also broke one of the metal ribs in the seat base but you can take the frame apart and move them around so the missing one is at the back where you never put weight anyway. I had to retire one recently when the gas lift failed. By that point the seat fabric was starting to go anyway.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

I. M. Gei posted:

Just FYI, that Herman Miller 20% off sale is going on in the US too. It's 20% off office chairs and 25% off everything else.
It doesn't look like most of the chairs are actually on sale, I'm only seeing sale pricing on the Eames.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Once again posting a question adjacent to office chairs, in the hopes one of the people here have had experience on it.

Any stools people vouch for? My PT doctor recommended doing some active sitting from time to time, different than a chair. Even just a regular padded medical stool without a back was what was used as an example. I asked about ones to buy but he didn't know.

There are also office stools, which look similar. A while back I got one of those Ikea active sitting stools, but those are really hard and thin and unforgiving for me. So I know I want a more padded stool.

Also, just to ask again (asked last year), any good cheap side chairs or anything people vouch for? Just something to sit in for various parts of the house. From the perspective of one of you fine office chair using gurus. If you don't know, that's cool too. Thanks.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I think the Turnstone / Steelcase Buoy is fairly cheap in the USA and I've always wanted one, just not enough to pay the new prices for them

NFX
Jun 1, 2008

Fun Shoe
For something that's a chair-stool hybrid, there's always the Håg Capisco. It's very much a love or hate kind of thing, but the people I've met who like it, seem to really love it. Not sure if it's available where you are.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

NFX posted:

For something that's a chair-stool hybrid, there's always the Håg Capisco. It's very much a love or hate kind of thing, but the people I've met who like it, seem to really love it. Not sure if it's available where you are.

This is my main chair and, yeah, I'm one of the people who love it. It is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, though.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

That's cool to hear!

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Heavy Metal posted:

There are also office stools, which look similar. A while back I got one of those Ikea active sitting stools, but those are really hard and thin and unforgiving for me. So I know I want a more padded stool.

Which Ikea stool did you get? I picked up a Nilserik a while back for my standing desk setup and the seat is a rounded cushion, if that's not enough padding I'm not sure how many options are left on the market. It's designed to be reminiscent of a yoga ball but without the risk of the ball deciding it doesn't need to stick around.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

The LIDKULLEN is the one I got. It pretty much feels like sitting on a wood plank after a bit for me.



And the medical stool I was testing at PT that felt a lot more padded / comfortable in comparison was like this:



And I'm not currently looking for one of the sit/standing officially marketed as active sitting stools. I have tried those all at IKEA too. Just looking for a backless office stool, or something like that medical stool. The active sitting (in comparison to sitting back on the couch etc) just being sitting upright etc. Just to sit on some of the time. So was curious if there were any good ones, since if I buy one online I won't be able to try it first in person etc. One of the posts I found online vouched for drum stools from music stores as well.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Apr 10, 2025

SerCypher
May 9, 2006

Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...
Fun Shoe
Thinking of getting replacement upholstery for my Leap V2:
https://crandalloffice.com/products/steelcase-leap-full-chair-upholstery-service

I know Crandall in general is good (the company I work for orders them), but has anyone tried their leather stuff?

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

I forgot how fun cylinder replacement was :argh: but this little guy was very handy instead of just beating the thing to death with a mini-sledge. :btroll:
It took about 3 times placing/tightening re-placing/tightening and then the cylinder will creak and finally pop loose.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

btw if anyone in kentucky is looking for a used embody, there's one in lexington, KY on facebook marketplace for $650 right now

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/10031619213528598

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Just took the plunge and ordered an Embody. Been sitting on a cheap Ikea MILLBERGET chair for a while and now that I am 100% wfh and have started having neck/back issues figured I'd better get my poo poo sorted.

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
What’s the best chair that has armrests that rotate outwards? I’m trying to get my mom a better chair for her birthday.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The Steelcase Gesture has arms that move around a lot, not sure how well people rate it

The337th
Mar 30, 2011


I think Gestures are pretty far up there on being divisive for the high end chairs

A lot of people who like Steelcase tend to find everything besides the (admittedly cool) arms less comfortable than a Leap, or even Amia

I sat in one for 1-2 hours a day over several weeks, and the seat/back comfort just never became as satisfying as a Leap. Wasn't bad, but for ~1400 I'd have been underwhelmed to own it

Is this arm requirement a use case where arms that can be significantly lowered would help, or is swinging out away from the chair the only option?

Chair budget is the other question, good chairs don't come cheap unless you find a killer deal in a local sale

The337th fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 6, 2025

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

Gestures have an exaggerated lumbar support, you should sit in one to make sure its not too much.

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
Imagine you’re sitting at the computer, but then you need to twist your body 30-45 degrees for a while, but keep using the mouse. She has some back issues. She now says that the armrests admittedly might not be a hard requirement. (I think a good chair would really help said back issues)
I found an Embody for $600 on Craigslist,, a few Leap V2 for $250-300, and an Aeron for $325. Any suggestions which I should get for her? She’s 62, and only spends 4-5 consecutive hours on the computer each day rather than the 8-10 that people in this thread do.


The337th posted:

I think Gestures are pretty far up there on being divisive for the high end chairs

A lot of people who like Steelcase tend to find everything besides the (admittedly cool) arms less comfortable than a Leap, or even Amia

I sat in one for 1-2 hours a day over several weeks, and the seat/back comfort just never became as satisfying as a Leap. Wasn't bad, but for ~1400 I'd have been underwhelmed to own it

Is this arm requirement a use case where arms that can be significantly lowered would help, or is swinging out away from the chair the only option?

Chair budget is the other question, good chairs don't come cheap unless you find a killer deal in a local sale

Valicious fucked around with this message at 02:48 on May 7, 2025

The337th
Mar 30, 2011


Biggest asterisk on Leaps is that some people find the seat padding too thin to feel comfortable. I've never personally had that experience despite being very butt deficient, but I'd be hesitant strongly recommending the Leap to someone whose tailbone gets uncomfortable easily.

Aeron's are divisive, they've been the standard luxury chair for a long time but they're a love/hate situation for most. I've never found them comfortable.

Embody is basically the thread mascot, I've got no firsthand experience with those but the cult is real.

If she wants to be able to shift around and vary up how she's sitting, a Leap isn't going to fight that nearly as much as the Herman Miller chairs will.

The Embody true believers will probably tell you that the chair forcing good posture for comfort pays off in the long run. A lot of reviews talk about not finding it comfortable to start, but then way better once they've adjusted to proper use of the chair.

In the case of all of these, if she's never had a high end chair before, they probably won't be impressive to start. None of them really are cushy like a cheap $100-200 chair feels when first sitting. But it's night and day when you actually put in hours in the seat and don't walk away sore (and the chair isn't falling apart in a matter of months).

The337th fucked around with this message at 03:56 on May 7, 2025

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

The337th posted:

In the case of all of these, if she's never had a high end chair before, they probably won't be impressive to start. None of them really are cushy like a cheap $100-200 chair does when first sitting. But it's night and day when you actually put in hours in the seat and don't walk away sore (and the chair isn't falling apart in a matter of months).

Yeah, this is really the key part, that $200 chair will feel like a cloud for the first five minutes, for the first couple months. And then after that it will look like rear end as the faux leather coating flakes off or the the fabric starts to snag and run, you will feel like you're just sitting on a chunk of particleboard, because you are after all the foam gets smushed, and then the arms snap off or the piston breaks or the back falls off within a couple years.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.
My embody has seen 8 (to rarely 14 when gaming or working a work incident) hour days five days a week for two years and still looks brand new

I had to wipe down where my neck would run against the chair but that’s basic maintenance stuff. Mine has the blue fabric and it’s still bright.

I’m slightly over the 250lb weight limit (260lb) too and the piston seems fine though I’m 6’3” and my legs may take some of that weight off. No issues to report and no ragerts.

tehinternet fucked around with this message at 12:33 on May 7, 2025

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Valicious posted:

Imagine you’re sitting at the computer, but then you need to twist your body 30-45 degrees for a while, but keep using the mouse. She has some back issues. She now says that the armrests admittedly might not be a hard requirement. (I think a good chair would really help said back issues)
I found an Embody for $600 on Craigslist,, a few Leap V2 for $250-300, and an Aeron for $325. Any suggestions which I should get for her? She’s 62, and only spends 4-5 consecutive hours on the computer each day rather than the 8-10 that people in this thread do.

A 600 dollar Embody is a crazy deal depending on how old it is.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Why are basically all chairs too low for all common desks? Is my torso just too short or something, even though I'm 6'1" ? Standard desk height is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too high for like 99% of chairs for me. I'm planning on getting a sit/stand anyway which will hopefully solve that problem if I get one that can adjust fairly low.

My lower back and posture is catching up with me and there's nothing within hundreds of miles of me where I could try a decent chair. I guess I'm leaning towards just swinging for an Embody? I need something that's going to force better posture, and hopefully not gently caress up my coccyx any worse.

On the other hand, I have an old aeron that I could never really use because it's not high enough. Maybe I can try replacing the lumbar support on it and switch to the sit/stand desk to see if that works out OK.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Use the lever to engage the gas spring and take your weight off the chair to have it rise up to the desired height.

If that's still not enough even at max extension then you can get an extra-tall gas spring and swap it out to get some extra height. Or if it's just barely too short, you could swap the regular casters with some taller rollerblade-style wheels.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
On the tallest chair I could find at office depot years ago, which is the one I own, my elbows are at like ~25 inches off the ground when the thing is fully extended. And at least in this case, fully extended means my heels are slightly off the ground, which isn't great. Going to a extended gas spring would mean my feet are hanging just touching at the toes.
On the average office chair, my elbows are as low as 22" off the ground when fully extended.

And yet every single desk is like 27" or up to loving 30" off the ground, which is crazy to me. I'm just over 6' foot! Who the gently caress are these desks and chairs for? It seems like the Uplift commercial desk goes as low as 22" which should hopefully cover whatever chair I get.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It sounds like the problem is your desk is too high rather than the chair being too low. If you can get the seat at a place where your feet are flat on the floor and you're sitting with your legs more or less parallel with the floor then the seat height is good. If the desk surface is then too tall so that your shoulders are hunched up you need to lower the desk.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

It sounds like the problem is your desk is too high rather than the chair being too low. If you can get the seat at a place where your feet are flat on the floor and you're sitting with your legs more or less parallel with the floor then the seat height is good. If the desk surface is then too tall so that your shoulders are hunched up you need to lower the desk.
Yeah I was gonna say that. My desk at home isn't adjustable and is a bit too tall. I adjust the chair height to match the desk, and then use footrest to raise my feet.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Yeah my plan at this point is since I want a sit-stand desk to get one that goes fairly low, which sadly most of the cheaper ones don't. But a uplift or something sure can. That'll cover the overall height issue.

The only problem then is what's the safest bet in terms of comfort/fit with something like the leap vs embody. My guess is the adjust-ability of the leap's lower back & lumbar stuff would be pretty valuable to me. Since there's absolutely nowhere near me I can try one, I kind of have to just go in blind and hopefully not have to deal with a lovely return scenario. Apparently you can get a bit of a deal buying an uplift desk & leap together from them, but I don't know if that complicates return/trial stuff for the chair.

Is it just me or does it seem like a lot of chairs the back curves away or sort of default tilts so you can't really lean into it at all until you're actually reclining? Am I imagining that? My current chairs are my lovely office depot one that has ZERO back support if you're sitting upright, the back leans like crazy though it is comfortable to recline in, that's been loving up my back I think. I also have an old Aeron that has the shittiest lumbar support in the universe and the front of the seat presses at the bottom of my thighs in a weird way.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

i can't wait to curb stomp you in these dumb ugly-ass Rick Owens shoes
adjustable desk height is critically important to good ergonomics - and thankfully cheaper than a fancy rear end chair. plenty of reasonable solutions out there. stick to manual adjustment (as opposed to electric motor powered adjusters) unless you really see yourself doing daily adjustments for seated vs. standing

DangerZoneDelux
Jul 26, 2006

Rescue Toaster posted:

Yeah my plan at this point is since I want a sit-stand desk to get one that goes fairly low, which sadly most of the cheaper ones don't. But a uplift or something sure can. That'll cover the overall height issue.

The only problem then is what's the safest bet in terms of comfort/fit with something like the leap vs embody. My guess is the adjust-ability of the leap's lower back & lumbar stuff would be pretty valuable to me. Since there's absolutely nowhere near me I can try one, I kind of have to just go in blind and hopefully not have to deal with a lovely return scenario. Apparently you can get a bit of a deal buying an uplift desk & leap together from them, but I don't know if that complicates return/trial stuff for the chair.

Is it just me or does it seem like a lot of chairs the back curves away or sort of default tilts so you can't really lean into it at all until you're actually reclining? Am I imagining that? My current chairs are my lovely office depot one that has ZERO back support if you're sitting upright, the back leans like crazy though it is comfortable to recline in, that's been loving up my back I think. I also have an old Aeron that has the shittiest lumbar support in the universe and the front of the seat presses at the bottom of my thighs in a weird way.

I have an uplift desk and I probably paid too much for it but I can confirm it gets stupid low if that’s your thing. Do they still do a ton of free accessories? Don’t get a drawer, that poo poo is only good for knocking your knees on it if you roll in at the wrong angle. The under desk power thing worked great and that’s about it. That being said my rear end never stands but it’s still a great desk that I spend all day on and I got a wide enough one to support a 34 inch monitor with two 24 inch monitors

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
After nearly 15 years of service I finally retired my Embody and grabbed an Embody G (the Logitech one) since they had the 20% off sale.

So far it's been fantastic. I love the upgraded fabric and the understated design with the blue accents. Very nice. I'm just curious about one aspect of setting up the chair that I was hoping Embody folk might be able to answer.

1) You can set the tension for the back rest by the knob on the front right. And it got me thinking- is the purpose of this knob to make the chair "float" so you're suspended without hitting the max travel that you selected for the tilt limiter? So you're kinda floating between the travel extremes? Is that the goal?

2) How do you guys like your BackFit adjustment? I find it hard to determine what is exactly "right". Is the lumbar supposed to be supporting your back all the way to your butt, or more like the top two thirds of your back?

I'm a huge, huge Embody supporter. I bought an embody initially because my work from home tech job was killing my back. After just a month or two the pain went away and I am still pain free 15 years later. The cost of an Embody is nothing compared to the benefits imo

Taima fucked around with this message at 16:44 on May 31, 2025

brainwrinkle
Oct 18, 2009

What's going on in here?
Buglord
Re: 1 in my understanding yes, you should be reclining at various angles throughout the day to keep your muscles engaged but not strained.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

i can't wait to curb stomp you in these dumb ugly-ass Rick Owens shoes

Taima posted:

I'm a huge, huge Embody supporter.
same

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

brainwrinkle posted:

Re: 1 in my understanding yes, you should be reclining at various angles throughout the day to keep your muscles engaged but not strained.

Not sure about what is "proper" so I won't speak to that

However, as a big fan of reclining, in previous/other chairs I would fuss with the tilt limiter throughout the day to change positions and stay there for a bit.

The Embody was the first chair where setting the back recline tension correctly the first time made me forget to even consider asking if a tilt limiter existed on the chair; I believe I owned the chair for almost a year before I discovered the little lever on the back-left and realized it actually came with one!

I think I've only used it twice since then heh

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
I just got a new chair for my mom for her birthday. It’s a big and tall chair though (she’s 5’8” with long arms) but the chair is a bit too wide. Are there armrest attachments to put her elbows colder to her body? Right now, they are having to be spread out, as if she’s doing the chicken dance.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Return that chair and get her a normal one

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





Sounds like you might have accidentally bought her an evil overlord chair.

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Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


You can always get her early aviator suit that gives you like extra wide thighs and arms

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