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PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Carbolic posted:

You mean she isn't dead?

Maybe. As written, it just means she's survived being shot out of a `Mech before. Multiple times.

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I'd go ahead and chuck the check at the loan, nothing wrong with driving a hail'ed up hoopty.

That moment of levity in the Yantai Reservation was a good chuckler. And the Jade Emperor you say? I wonder what that would be.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Well, finding out will probably depend on whether or not people vote to do Part 2.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

And the Jade Emperor you say? I wonder what that would be.

I figured it was a Capellan Dropship of some sort that wasn't wrecked, but now I'm not so sure.

So the Taurians have begun to withdraw from Impact Point Zero, and it's pretty much going to be a shootout between the half lances of the DNS Militia and the Capellans now... Not really sure who to root for here, since the DNS pair have grown on me, as have the Capellans. The latter were the ones who went for the backstab first, though, so I guess that swings my opinion in the DNS militia's favor.

I hope that Anne Bellard survived getting another mech getting shot out form under her here... The Watchman going crazy in an attempt to avenge her is pretty awesome, though, if a bit shortsighted and foolhardy. In other news on that front, the Raven losing its Left Torso and attendant weapons there looks like it'll hurt, but the Drillson being immobilized pretty much makes up for that. Don't think TMM's eponymous vehicle is long for this world here...

Holybat
Dec 22, 2006

I made this while you were asleep.

GhostStalker posted:

I figured it was a Capellan Dropship of some sort that wasn't wrecked, but now I'm not so sure.

I figured it was a Yu Huang prototype mech considering the name.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Holybat posted:

I figured it was a Yu Huang prototype mech considering the name.

I kinda figured it was an Emporer.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


It's a crashed dropship and you're all gonna get hosed.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


The Taurians are pulling back to hit the area with a follow up strike from orbit. :getin:

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

Zaodai posted:

The Taurians are pulling back to hit the area with a follow up strike from orbit. :getin:

It is the only way to be sure.

Calax
Oct 5, 2011

PoptartsNinja posted:

Guys! GUYS!

Exciting news! I just found my copy of the worst BattleTech book ever written! I may break out of Lets Read retirement to go over it, because Bred for War Natural Selection is possibly the worst book ever written!

It features:
- Rape
- A plot hastily cannibalized into another plot because of an Editorial Mandate
- Rape
- The Clans
- Rape
- Phelan Kell
- Rape
- Nonsensical Politics
- Did I mention Rape?
- And also Rape

I realize this is from a few pages back but in an effort to remind myself of the story I found this review of the book in question

quote:

I don't remember much, besides that it was pretty good. Lots of stuff made outta plasteel, ninjas that gently caress you up by smacking your armpit, and lots of crazy arm cannon bitchin!

Sincerely goodreads.com

Ferrosol
Nov 8, 2010

Notorious J.A.M

So thread advice time. I'm kind of unsure what to do next. I could just jump away and make the cappies play hunt the griffin but that is boring and unfun and leaves our enfield alone to take the heat but I don't see any better options.

Readingaccount
Jan 6, 2013

Law of the jungle
The Enfield can die from a single gauss to the CT, so I think if it's left alone they'll ignore you despite your open torso w/ ammo and hunt the Enfield.
Try to put damage on the Wolverine if you can, it's closer to breaking as well as closer up.

The odds being against you given the existing damage (assuming you can't get behind them), high-risk unstable payouts are more profitable than a conservative strategy.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey
Seems to me that the Gauss Rifle's range precludes running away from it. Focus firing on the Wolverine looks to be the best choice, you want to do everything you can to support the Enfield.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

quote:

“El-tee’s gone off the deep end,” Sergeant Peter Sommers said in low tones as he watched his commanding officer’s `Mech leap after the retreating enemy Phoenix. The Watchman, battered by enemy fire, didn’t seem to have a chance against a bigger, undamaged enemy `Mech; but Sommers knew that looks could be deceiving. The Phoenix was built for long-range combat, if the Lieutenant could stay close he’d have a decent chance.

Still, he shook his head and appended his earlier statement. “Again.”

“Please,” Troy’s voice warbled over the comms. “This happens every time Anne gets herself shot out of a `Mech. Once we salvage the Toro, I’m sure he’ll go nuts once she manages to lose it putting two Atlases in a headlock or something. Now stop talking an help me sink this Drillson before—”

Sommers turned as an SRM impact shook Troy’s Raven, the little `Mech’s left arm spun away in a short parabola as the Raven’s torso collapsed.

“—gently caress me!” Troy continued. “There go my machine guns!”


I cannot describe how happy this turn of events makes me :P

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die

Tiny posted:

I cannot describe how happy this turn of events makes me :P

Your death (if it happened) will be avenged!

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Carbolic posted:

Your death (if it happened) will be avenged!

It may not, if the Raven's refusal to build up any move mods has anything to say about it.

Edit: "May"

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Steel Will: Tactical Update 12

Initiative Phase
Delta Battle Lance, Sirdar DNS Militia: Rolled 3!
2nd Lance, 3rd Chesterton Voltigeurs: Rolled 1!
DNS Forces win initiative!



Movement Phase
2) Griffin
- Attempts to jump to hex 0917, insufficient MP!



Combat Phase
Impact Point Zero
2) Griffin
- Fires ER PPC at Huron Warrior (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Radiation = 10): rolled 6, miss!
- Gains 20 heat, sinks 22!

3) Enfield
- Torso-twists to threaten hex 1219!
- Fires LB-10X (CLUSTER) at Wolverine (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 1 cluster = 7): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires Large Pulse Laser at Wolverine (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 2 Pulse Laser = 6): rolled 10, hit Left Torso (11/20 armor remains)!
- Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 8): rolled 7, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 8): rolled 6, miss!
- Fires Small Laser at Wolverine (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 8): rolled 4, miss!
- Gains 21 heat, sinks 22!

7) Huron Warrior
- Fires ER Large Laser at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 9): rolled 11, hit Right Leg (6/24 armor remains)!
- Attempts to Fire Gauss Rifle at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 9): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Enfield (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 2 Pulse Laser = 9): rolled 3, miss!
- Gains 24 heat, sinks 17! Overheating!

4) Wolverine
- Fires Large Pulse Laser at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 8, hit Right Arm (3/16 armor remains)!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 8, hit Center Torso (8/16 structure remains)! Crit!
- Fires Small Pulse Laser at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 7, hit Center Torso (5/16 structure remains)! Crit!
- Fires SRM-6 at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 8): rolled 12, 2 missiles hit Right Leg (4/24 armor remains), Right Arm (1/16 armor remains)!
- Fires SRM-6 at Enfield (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference = 8): rolled 7, miss!
- Gains 26 heat, sinks 26!

Cronus
- Holds fire!
- Gains 0 weapon heat!

Hunter Light Support Tank
- Fires LRM-20 at Huron Warrior (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 EM Interference + 1 partial cover + 1 minimum range = 9): Rolled 10, 12 missiles hit Right Arm (11/16 armor remains), Center Torso (17/22 armor remains (TAC!)), Right Torso (11/17 armor remains)!



Yantai Reservation
9) Watchman
- Fires Large Laser at Phoenix (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 9): rolled 8, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Phoenix (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 9): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires Machine Gun at Phoenix (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 11): rolled 7, miss!
- Fires Machine Gun at Phoenix (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 11): rolled 8, miss!
- Gains 14 heat, sinks 12!

10) Blackjack
- Fires PPC at Cicada (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 minimum range = 11): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Cicada (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement = 12): rolled 7, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Cicada (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement = 12): rolled 8, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Cicada (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement = 12): rolled 4, miss!
- Gains 27 heat, sinks 20! Overheating!

11) Raven
- Fires Medium Laser at Drillson (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 steam = 2): automatically hits Front (2/25 armor remains)!
- Fires Medium Laser at Drillson (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 steam = 2): automatically hits Front (0/25 armor, 1/5 structure remains)! Crit!
- Fires SRM-6 at Drillson (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 steam = 2): 4 missiles automatically hit Left Side (19/21 armor remains), Front (0/5 structure remains (Tank destroyed!)), Front (Crit!), Left Side (17/21 armor remains)!
- Gains 15 heat, sinks 12!

Cicada
- Fires ER PPC at Raven (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 6): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires Medium Laser at Raven (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 6): rolled 7, hit Right Torso (0/11 armor, 7/8 structure remains)! Crit!
- Fires Medium Laser at Raven (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 6): rolled 12, hit Right Torso (2/8 armor remains)! Crit!
- Gains 21 weapon heat!

Phoenix
- Fires SRM-2 at Watchman (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 light woods = 9): rolled 6, miss!
- Fires SRM-2 at Watchman (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 light woods = 9): rolled 9, 1 missile hit Right Torso (10/14 armor remains)!
- Gains 10 weapon heat!

Drillson Heavy Hovertank
- Fires Large Laser at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 8, hit Head (1/9 armor remains)! Pilot Hit!
- Fires SRM-2 at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 4, miss!
- Fires SRM-2 at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 9, 2 missiles hit Center Torso (0/18 armor remains), Left Arm (1/7 structure remains)! Crit!
- Fires SRM-2 at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 6, miss!
- Fires SRM-2 at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 8, 2 missiles hit Left Arm (0/7 structure remains (Arm Blown Off!), Left Arm!
- - 3 damage transfers to Left Torso (6/15 armor remains)!
- Fires SRM-2 (INFERNO) at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 12, 2 missiles add 4 heat!
- Fires SRM-2 (INFERNO) at Blackjack (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 7): rolled 6, miss!
- Fires Machine Gun at Blackjack (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 9): rolled 6, miss!
- Fires Machine Gun at Blackjack (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 steam = 9): rolled 6, miss!

Plainsman Hovertank
- Fires SRM-6 at Raven (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 steam = 6): rolled 11, 6 missiles hit Left Leg (9/15 armor remains), Right Leg (11/15 armor remains), Center Torso (10/16 armor remains), Right Arm (9/11 armor remains), Center Torso (8/16 armor remains), Right Torso (0/8 structure remains (Torso Destroyed!))!
- Fires SRM-6 at Raven (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 steam = 6): rolled 6, 4 missiles hit Right Arm Center Torso (6/16 armor remains), Center Torso (4/16 armor remains), Center Torso (2/16 armor remains), Right Arm Center Torso (0/16 armor remains)!



End Phase:
Enfield
- Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 1 massive damage = 6): rolled 8, succeeds!
- Critical chance in Center Torso! 1 critical hit sustained
- - Gyro hit!
- Critical chance in Center Torso! No critical hits sustained!
- Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 1 massive damage + 3 Gyro Hit = 9): rolled 11, succeeds!

Huron Warrior
- Through-Armor Critical chance in Center Torso! 1 critical hit sustained
- - Engine hit! +5 heat/turn!

Blackjack
- Must pass a 3+ consciousness test! Rolled 4, succeeds!

Raven
- Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 1 massive damage = 6): rolled 7, succeeds!



Physical Combat Phase:
Wolverine
- Kicks Enfield (5 base + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement - 2 kick = 6): rolled 5, miss!

Raven
- Target is too high to kick!

Cicada
- Kicks Raven (5 base + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement - 2 kick = 5): rolled 5, hit Head (1/9 armor remains)! Pilot hit!



End Phase:
Wolverine
- Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 0 missed kick = 5): rolled 11, succeeds!

Raven!
- Must pass a 3+ consciousness test! Rolled 4, succeeds!
- Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 0 kicked = 5): rolled 7, succeeds!







“Sergeant Major, what’s your sta—”

Mao’s gloved fist slammed down on the top of her secondary monitor as Commander Osei’s voice was lost to static. Her Enfield lurched as a lucky hit nearly jammed the `Mech’s gyro with shrapnel. She staggered, her shots going wild. It didn’t matter, a flight of missiles from the Taurian tank struck the enemy Huron Warrior in the chest. Its outline on the thermals seemed to explode although the view through the front canopy was a little more disappointing. The missiles had knocked some engine shielding loose, or perhaps crippled some heat sinks. Typical of Capellan workmanship.

“The Capellans attacked us,” she said, thumbing the transmit button. “The Taurians have backed off.”

“I was hoping they’d join us, but to hell with them,” Commander Osei said in reply. “We can’t afford to lose either of you. Pull out, Sergeant Major.”

“Yeah, sure,” Mao’s eyes narrowed as she stared at the treacherous enemy Wolverine. “We’ll get right on that.”

************************************************************************

The crackle of the radio cut through the angry haze that’d fallen over Lieutenant Bellard’s mind. The Phoenix danced backwards, its pilot evading every shot he fired only to taunt him with a flight of missiles. He was badly out of position and he knew it, but he wanted to watch that `Mech burn.

Commander Osei’s strong voice filled his ears, “Lieutenant Bellard. Our scouts have detected another Taurian lance heading your way. Withdraw for now, we can’t afford to lose any `Mechs.”

“Aye, sir,” Bellard’s left eyebrow twitched involuntarily, his face contorting into an inhuman grimace. His reply was mechanical, apathetic. “Laguerre’s crippled. Sommers overheating. They’re faster. Can’t break free.”

“Lost Anne.”

“I’m sorry, Dorian. Follow the plan and the rest of you should make it. We’ve planted some vibrabombs on your planned exit vector and if they’re stupid enough to follow you into the woods our surviving infantry will make short work of them. Save what you can, we’ll hit them back for this.”

“Aye, sir,” he switched back to lance-level comms. “India Recon, new orders. We’re bugging out.”



Delta Battle Lance “The Avenging Angels” Primary Objectives:
- Survive (incomplete)
- Destroy the Capellan Survivors (incomplete)

Delta Battle Lance “The Avenging Angels” Secondary Objectives:
- Rescue Capellan Survivors (failed)
- Defeat Taurian Forces (failed)

2nd Lance, 1st Company, 3rd Chesterton Voltigeurs Primary Objectives:
- Survive (incomplete)
- Destroy the New Syrtis Rescue Party (incomplete)

2nd Lance, 1st Company, 3rd Chesterton Voltigeurs Secondary Objectives:
- Link up with the New Syrtis Rescue Party (failed)
- Defeat Taurian Forces (failed)

India Recon Lance “The Last Report” Primary Objectives:
- Retreat off the North map edge! (0/3)

India Recon Lance “The Last Report” Secondary Objectives:
- Defeat Taurian Forces (incomplete)
- Defend the Fallout Bunker Entrance (failed)
- Use the Raven’s equipment to confirm the condition of the six bunkers and the number (if any) of the survivors (failed)







Point Zero Enemy Movement Mods:
- Cronus – Stationary +0
- Hunter – Stationary +0

Yantai Reservation Enemy Movement Mods:
- Cicada – Jumped +4
- Phoenix – Walked +1
- Plainsman – Cruised +2

Player Status:


Enemy Status:

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Oct 21, 2013

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Looks like there's been a change of plans.

Do Delta Lance's survivors have any chance of retreat as well?

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
They could, it just counts as a victory for the Capellans (assuming the Taurians don't get them). Either side can withdraw at any time.

GenericServices
Apr 28, 2010
That Cronus pilot is probably cracking out some popcorn to watch the show. Beautiful view from up on that hill.

The Raven getting kicked in the head the same time it lost its other torso was cruelty in d6 form. Poor thing's a cockpit on stilts. More so than usual, anyway.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Man, the situation on the ground's a mess. Pretty much everybody's coming away from this a loser. Even the Taurians, since this is a pretty expensive mop-up considering they'd nuked the site from orbit.

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

GenericServices posted:

The Raven getting kicked in the head the same time it lost its other torso was cruelty in d6 form. Poor thing's a cockpit on stilts. More so than usual, anyway.

Well he had it coming really, only moving one hex is just asking for it.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey

PoptartsNinja posted:


11) Raven
- Fires SRM-6 Laser at Drillson (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 steam = 2): 4 missiles automatically hit Left Side (19/21 armor remains), Front (0/5 structure remains (Tank destroyed!)), Front (Crit!), Left Side (17/21 armor remains)!
- Gains 15 heat, sinks 12!

Laser missiles - the best secret weapon.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Welp, that Raven is all but toast now. Didn't help that it attempted to kick something higher than it was, and got kicked in the head for its troubles... With the loss of its other torso, it no longer can scan those bunkers, and now India Recon has to bug out. At least the Raven scragged the Drillson while eating all that damage, but in return, Drillson put some serious hurt on the Blackjack in its dying throes. I know Lt. Bellard has his new orders, but I think he'd want very much to smoke that Phoenix in order to avenge his wife having her mech shot out from under her. If they withdraw, how will they recover her?

Things aren't going so well for the DNS pair at Impact Point Zero either. The Enfield has a completely open Center Torso and now a damaged Gyro, so if the Capellan pair decide to concentrate fire, she won't be long for this world. The Huron Warrior has a damaged engine now due to the Hunter's fire, and I wonder how long that thing is going to be there unmolested as the two GoonHalfLances battle it out amongst themselves. The Cronus is also there sitting pretty, but he probably won't move to intervene until one side had wrecked the other and he swoops in to finish off the victors. Not many good choices there for either side, I think.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Welcome to the pwnzone Anime Goon Half Lance.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Readingaccount
Jan 6, 2013

Law of the jungle
Tense update!

Some player status pages corrections:

Wolverine: LT 11/20 Armor
Huron Warrior: Engine Hit, CT 17/22, RT 11/17 Armor, RA 11/16 Armor,
Enfield: Gyro Hit, CT 5/16 Structure, RL 4/24 Armor, RA 1/16 Armor
Blackjack: Medium Laser LA - Blown Off

---
What direction on Impact Point Zero would the DNS and Capellans retreat off, respectively? Probably south for the DNS.
I'm still hoping for a DNS pilot to shrivel up from radiation, an SRM hit opening up a small 1-point breach would be perfect... (nothing personal players, TDF Ho!)

Not sure whether those incoming reinforcements are on a strategic or tactical scale, if the former I'd just jump back with both mechs and kill the Plainsman. And I probably shouldn't say it, but wouldn't it be relatively easy for the Watchman to push the Phoenix off the board? I'm counting +4 Move modifiers from a +3 jump and a +1 Walk for a total of 9 to hit. That's a 10/36 chance of eliminating a pristine Phoenix in one go.
Though I suppose that also involves a PPC at 10, two MLs at 12, two SRM-2s at 8, a kick from the Phoenix and poor placement for the next round, hardly withdrawing all in all. Though if you win and the Raven and Blackjack also go against orders and finish off the Plainsman it'd be just the Cicada left, which would be a bitch to kill with a vulnerable Watchman and Blackjack, and only half the weapons on the latter, but you'd probably win with initiative.
If you just want to run and save your wife you might want to jump to 1214 outside of the Phoenix's LoS, fight the Cicada and you'll be two hexes from where the Firebee was blown up. You could ignore fighting the Phoenix (or if it's possible fight it simultaneously while) and look for her cockpit to just pick it up and go. For sure us Taurians will hole it if you leave it, once we fish up to Toro and find the Quasit's cockpit.

Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Oct 21, 2013

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Readingaccount posted:

And I probably shouldn't say it, but wouldn't it be relatively easy for the Watchman to push the Phoenix off the board? I'm counting +4 Move modifiers from a +3 jump and a +1 Walk for a total of 9 to hit. That's a 10/36 chance of eliminating a pristine Phoenix in one go.

8 TH. Pushes are -1. (Assuming no arm crits)

Sticking around to finish the Plainsman would be quite likely to kill either or both Mechs that did it.

The Merry Marauder fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Oct 21, 2013

Readingaccount
Jan 6, 2013

Law of the jungle
It's only got 16 SRM missiles before we factor in the SRM-6s will probably get 4 hits and the SRM-2s will probably average to 1.5 hits. The most average scenario is probably a hit by one SRM-6 and one SRM-2, if we assume that'll net a total of 6 SRM hits for 11 damage/heat the Blackjack will probably survive it. With a 75% chance of hitting the CT per missile the Raven is probably a coinflip to die before the crits (so it probably goes), but that's a good trade for the Plainsman and preferable to damage to the Blackjack.
The Plainsman otoh is probably around 75% to die overall.

Further north there's a 15/36 chance of killing a pristine Phoenix needing an 8 (thanks MM) and thus getting back into the lead... Perhaps the Phoenix moved to the edge as bait for the Watchman's to move into open territory with an exposed torso, but it's made itself far more vulnerable than it gains.
Granted it's still barely like to fail, but it's a 41.7% chance to leave only one untouched jumper in the battle, and if it fails and the Watchman hasn't exploded it's just one jump to get into the woods to support the retreat.
What's more romantic though, killing the Phoenix or getting her cockpit? Probably killing it and then getting the cockpit, but if that push fails you'll probably need the Blackjack to get it for you. But if they've gone to kill the Plainsman they'll be another round out.

Complicated decision, but it still mostly boils down to clear options; very high likelihood to eradicate the plainsman for some 12 damage/heat meaning damage to the Blackjack or a coinflip to lose the crippled Raven. 40% chance to kill the Phoenix for one round's exposure to a Kick at 7, 2 SRM-2s at 8, two MLs at 12 and a PPC at 10, all reasonably high numbers for 42/36 hits.

>Kick fixed. Yes, the Cicada's weapons are included.

Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 21, 2013

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Shove the Phoenix, jump over and put the boot in on the Plainsman, hope the Cicada doesn't hit the Watchman on the left hand side.

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Kicks are -2, so the kick's @ 7. Are you counting the PPC and MLs as from the Cicada? If so, there's the minimum range Phoenix PPC as well, but that's not terribly important, I suppose. Unless it winds up being so.

While the Raven is a wobbly exposed CT, both the Blackjack and the Raven are one head hit away from a crispy pilot - SRMs are not what you want to face in that situation.

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
So why has the Raven not been moving a whole lot lately? Seems like a lot of damage over the past couple turns could have been avoided.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Blackjack pilot here. Having trouble making up my mind on whether I want to just go ahead and kill the plainsman out of spite or not.

Red_October_7000
Jun 22, 2009
Welp, I didn't expect that to happen.
I'm thinking of jumping to 1527 and kicking the Plainsman, it's not like there's much else productive I can do!

Readingaccount
Jan 6, 2013

Law of the jungle

The Merry Marauder posted:

Kicks are -2, so the kick's @ 7. Are you counting the PPC and MLs as from the Cicada? If so, there's the minimum range Phoenix PPC as well, but that's not terribly important, I suppose. Unless it winds up being so.

While the Raven is a wobbly exposed CT, both the Blackjack and the Raven are one head hit away from a crispy pilot - SRMs are not what you want to face in that situation.

Fixed, and yes, I counted the Cicada.

Not attacking close up probably means the survival of the Plainsman, and immediate low-odds SRM flights against the Blackjack at 11 (I think), and if it survives the Plainsman will undoubtedly chase after, meaning more damage overall. The primary concern might be that it takes them south.

Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Oct 21, 2013

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Red_October_7000 posted:

Welp, I didn't expect that to happen.
I'm thinking of jumping to 1527 and kicking the Plainsman, it's not like there's much else productive I can do!

Or you can follow orders and run to the North edge of the map.

Somebody else already won the blaze of glory award, might as well try not to completely balls up the last, limping leg of the mission. Your Primary Objectives have changed, so failure to escape is probably going to turn this from a simple retreat to a crushing defeat. Also you kept forgetting your pilot's personal mission in pursuit of a few shots, and all you got out of it in return is getting your arms blown off.

The only reason why you're out of weapons is because you forgot the number one rule of Battletech: Speed is life. Move as far as you can to make yourself harder to hit. Slowing down to get a good shot off on someone, while you're in a light, is just silly talk.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax
Don't listen to him.

Think of the glory!

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

TildeATH posted:

Don't listen to him.

Think of the glory!

This is literally the best possible rebuttal.

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Also you kept forgetting your pilot's personal mission in pursuit of a few shots, and all you got out of it in return is getting your arms blown off.

That isn't a fair criticism. With the rest of the lance engaging the enemy, it would have been a terrible idea to hang back and go for the secondary objective while the rest of us fought 3 vs 6. Blame the overall strategy if you like - we could have turtled, although that seemed unlikely to be very fun - but don't blame Red for being a team player.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
He did a very good job of blocking the land bridge to keep things farther away from the Blackjack.

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Readingaccount
Jan 6, 2013

Law of the jungle

TildeATH posted:

Don't listen to him.

Think of the glory!

This is definitely the most profitable round yet to go against the stated objectives for a greater victory though.
That said, following orders is always great, like in Counting Coup, the Taurians winning if you follow instructions has nothing to do with my mentioning this...

Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Oct 22, 2013

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