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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


ShadowDragon8685 posted:

Are you kidding me?!

In Vitro fertilization is goddamned LosTech?!

:argh:

When the turkey died out, the technology to make turkey basters was lost to the sands of time.

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Brandy Collins
Sep 17, 2009

I have seen some strong arguments against trolling the Clans.

If permitted, I would like to change my 'Mech vote to SB.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Bonus Update 2: Let's Keep Playing Battletech!

You know what's exactly like last time but on a 160 second time limit?

Battletech for the Sega Genesis, Mission 2!



Contest!
In honor of how useless the mines were in the last mission, the first person who completes the first stage of mission 2 (destroy both launch bays) using only Thunder Mines and no other weapons, without using the unlimited ammo cheat gets another prize!

DA) their vote counts for 5 votes next time
DB) a Trial of Possession against me in MegaMek (assuming we can find a time that works)
DC) they get to swap one of the two 'Mechs I've already selected for the players to an era-appropriate 'Mech of their choice
DD) they get to swap one of the Clan 'Mechs for an era-appropriate 'Mech of their choice

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

PoptartsNinja posted:

DC) they get to swap one of the two 'Mechs I've already selected for the players to an era-appropriate 'Mech of their choice

:shepicide: I'll fight the clans in a Charger if I have to. I got 99 problems but heat ain't one, y'all.


edit: If you having ammo problems I feel bad for you son

Mukaikubo fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 23, 2011

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

ShadowDragon8685 posted:

In Vitro fertilization is goddamned LosTech?!

Apparently they forget how to make eyedroppers, pipettes, turkey basters, or any suction device with a tube attached. In the future.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Mukaikubo posted:

:shepicide: I'll fight the clans in a Charger if I have to. I got 99 problems but heat ain't one, y'all.

just got within range 3 with 1 ton of armor left :cool:

Arglebargle III posted:

Apparently they forget how to make eyedroppers, pipettes, turkey basters, or any suction device with a tube attached. In the future.

according to the pictures bras are lostech too

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010

PoptartsNinja posted:

Bonus Update 2: Let's Keep Playing Battletech!

You know what's exactly like last time but on a 160 second time limit?

Battletech for the Sega Genesis, Mission 2!



Contest!
In honor of how useless the mines were in the last mission, the first person who completes the first stage of mission 2 (destroy both launch bays) using only Thunder Mines and no other weapons, without using the unlimited ammo cheat gets another prize!

DA) their vote counts for 5 votes next time
DB) a Trial of Possession against me in MegaMek (assuming we can find a time that works)
DC) they get to swap one of the two 'Mechs I've already selected for the players to an era-appropriate 'Mech of their choice
DD) they get to swap one of the Clan 'Mechs for an era-appropriate 'Mech of their choice

You know, I...can't recall ever having successfully beaten that mission with an optimal loadout. I'd be surprised if anybody was able to complete this one at all.

EDIT: Also, Clanners using mines? I question the canonicity of this game. :colbert:

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.
Took a few tries, but I pulled it off. Hopefully youtube goes a bit faster today.

Longinus00
Dec 29, 2005
Ur-Quan

Axe-man posted:

just got within range 3 with 1 ton of armor left :cool:

Charge and then have the round report reveal that PTN is using the TO charge damage rules.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


ShadowDragon8685 posted:

Are you kidding me?!

In Vitro fertilization is goddamned LosTech?!

:argh:


Other way around. They could conceive but not carry to term. The whole "canister womb" is actually one of the few major leaps Clan technology has made (versus just increases in efficiency)

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Defiance Industries posted:

Other way around. They could conceive but not carry to term. The whole "canister womb" is actually one of the few major leaps Clan technology has made (versus just increases in efficiency)

They didn't think of, oh, I don't know, a surrogate mother? That seems a lot easier than putting your baby in a magic coffee maker.

And KnoxZone, I've got faith in you to pick something entirely dickish for laughs in the next mission. :thumbsup:

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Medtech in Battletech is one of those bizarre things... sometimes, what they have works amazingly well (Harjel, robotic prosthesis, Clan organ cloning) and other times what they have is really terrible (most cancer research was lost until an ancient library was discovered prompting Hanse to found the NAIS).


VVV Well done, 'Mechwarrior! Choose your prize!

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 24, 2011

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.
Mines are terrible things without support

Those boxy missile launchers (are they supposed to be SRM Carriers?) really hurt when your only defense is 'charge straight at them and drop a mine.' Was not pleasant.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Zaodai posted:

They didn't think of, oh, I don't know, a surrogate mother? That seems a lot easier than putting your baby in a magic coffee maker.

And KnoxZone, I've got faith in you to pick something entirely dickish for laughs in the next mission. :thumbsup:


But then Phelan would be less of a special snowflake.

I mean, it's rear end, but call it that for the right reasons.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Defiance Industries posted:

But then Phelan would be less of a special snowflake.

I mean, it's rear end, but call it that for the right reasons.

Voodoo magic mech powers make him a special snowflake, not his birth via Mr. Coffee. Hell, they could have still had the Dragoon techs take care of it. Maybe they had the only qualified surrogate mother surgeons that could keep the operation hushed up. I don't know.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! :saddowns:

(Not really.)

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010

KnoxZone posted:

Mines are terrible things without support

Those boxy missile launchers (are they supposed to be SRM Carriers?) really hurt when your only defense is 'charge straight at them and drop a mine.' Was not pleasant.

You are far better at that game than I am, sir. I salute you.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


I really liked the SNES version of that game.

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.
I do not envy the players of next game.

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."


BRING ITTTTTT

SageSepth
May 10, 2004
Luck is probability given way to superstition
Your mechwarrior list is uneven and even though it would be 15 more campaigns before my go, I'll throw my hat in the bag. email dark_delving@hotmail.com

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

PoptartsNinja posted:

No it does not. The Patton does, and since they're the same tank (same chassis, same armor, different armament) it's easy to confuse them.
Sir, you are correct. I retract my objection and update Sarna.

ShadowDragon8685 posted:

Are you kidding me?!

In Vitro fertilization is goddamned LosTech?!

:argh:
No, Salome couldn't carry him. Phelan is a Trueborn.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Mukaikubo posted:



BRING ITTTTTT


Ah Brock. He's the best representation of Reinhardt Steiner that mortals can depict.

Olesh
Aug 4, 2008

Why did the circus close?

A long, chilling list of animal rights violations.
redacted

Olesh fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 24, 2011

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

KnoxZone posted:

I do not envy the players of next game.

Haven't you played Dwarf Fortress? Dying is fun!

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
So, I have a question for everyone. We've seen a lot of silly things become LosTech in the Battletech universe. Is there any technology (or animal, type of clothing, custom, etc.) that you would be glad to see become LosWhatever?

For me, it'd have to be neckties. Fuckin' hate those things.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry
I'd Lostech the gently caress out of the DMV

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Lostech Neckties, DMV

You're in luck, citizens! Very few people in the Inner Sphere drive when they can hop into a convenient 'Mech; and the only Great House who still posesses the coveted "Necktie" technology is House Kurita, where it is worn exclusively by the Yakuza.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Literature teachers. Those irritating jackasses can gently caress right off, and take their overinflated sense of importance with them.

I think I had one English teacher through 12 grades + college that didn't believe Literature was "the most important class you'll ever take." Reading terrible books and plays from hundreds of years ago hasn't really been a part of my everyday life.

Shocking but true!

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

paragon1 posted:

So, I have a question for everyone. We've seen a lot of silly things become LosTech in the Battletech universe. Is there any technology (or animal, type of clothing, custom, etc.) that you would be glad to see become LosWhatever?

For me, it'd have to be neckties. Fuckin' hate those things.

Microwaveable "instant" rice is an abomination and sin against food, taste, and all the gods that ever have or ever will exist.

Is it petty? Yes. But it was my first reaction.

ShadowDragon8685
Jan 23, 2011

Hi, I'm Troy McClure! You might remember SD from such films as "Guys, I'm not sanguine about this Mech choice", "The Millstone of the Clans", and "Uppity Sperglord ilKhan"! Make sure to clear the date for his upcoming documentary, "How I ran a Star of Clan Mechs into the ground!"

PoptartsNinja posted:

You're in luck, citizens! Very few people in the Inner Sphere drive when they can hop into a convenient 'Mech;

Say it ain't so, Poptarts!

Where else will I get the inspiration for Need for Speed: Tharkad Drift?



quote:

and the only Great House who still posesses the coveted "Necktie" technology is House Kurita, where it is worn exclusively by the Yakuza.

Okay, yeah. Neckties can DIAF.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



How about those damned olestra chips?

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

bunnyofdoom posted:

How about those damned olestra chips?

Without those chips i would have never heard of the phrase "Anal Leakage"

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Zaodai posted:

Literature teachers. Those irritating jackasses can gently caress right off, and take their overinflated sense of importance with them.

I think I had one English teacher through 12 grades + college that didn't believe Literature was "the most important class you'll ever take." Reading terrible books and plays from hundreds of years ago hasn't really been a part of my everyday life.

Shocking but true!
I don't think you understand the word "literature" the way it should be understood. Are you, perhaps, basic your interpretation upon talks with hipsters?

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

Arquinsiel posted:

I don't think you understand the word "literature" the way it should be understood. Are you, perhaps, basic your interpretation upon talks with hipsters?

I don't know, I've had professors that can actually convince you literature is central to human existence, and professors that make me react exactly like Zaodai. If not done right it can be a real terrible subject.

After today I can honestly say I hope telemarketing is considered impossible techno-sorcery by the 31st Century.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Vote 3 Results
The 2nd Donegal Guards win with 33 votes!
The 1st Lyran Guards look forward to second place and their continued survival with 8 votes!
The ComGuards weep for poor leadership that landed them in last place with only 4 votes!

Howling Dogs run wild in first place with 16 votes!
Power Rangers understand that second place is really just the first loser with 11 votes!
Knight Lights were not issued to scotophobic ‘Mechwarriors with only 10 votes!





“Pitiful warriors of the Inner Sphere, hear my batchall and quake in your boots!”



“Arrogant, aren’t they?” Hauptmann-Kommandant Caesar Steiner commented quietly. Samantha smiled, she’d served as the irreverent Major’s aide when he’d been in command, and still served Caesar’s replacement. Colonel Rossi glared, drawing a smirk from the chubby ex-Colonel.

“I am Star Colonel Dusk of the Clan Steel Viper,” the Clanner continued. She was handsome enough, her black hair cropped short save for a long braid. The Clanswoman’s eyes were a striking green, Samantha noted, at once piercing and inhuman. “I bring with me the entire cluster of the Fourth Viper Guards, the Deadly Venom. With what forces do you defend the planet?”

“What’s the latency on that?” Colonel Rossi asked quietly.

“Eighty secon—” Samantha began, as aide, the comms were her responsibility. An eighty-second latency would put the Steel Vipers just beyond a stable orbit—they’d likely be landing within the hour, she’d been about to say until her former commander cut her off.

“Steel Vipers, beware,” Caeser Steiner announced, bravado getting the better of him. “The Second Donegal Guards stand ready to kick your asses back to whatever dark corner of the universe you crawled out of! We’re not some periphery militia for you to walk all over. This regiment has served the Lyran Commonwealth for over a thousand years. It’s you who should be shaking, Steel Viper!”

Rossi glared again, motioned for Caeser to hold his tongue.

After a short delay, Dusk’s full lips curled into a vicious smile. “You speak bravely, for a barbarian,” she taunted quietly. “To whom am I speaking?”

“To my subordinate,” Rossi said coldly, “I am Colonel Rossi, and you deal with me, Star Colonel.”

“I make no deals, Colonel,” Dusk sneered, “I mean to take this planet from you. Will you oppose us with the whole of your Donegal Guards?”

“You’re damned right we will!” Caeser’s booming voice filled the cramped command center and several of the non-coms raised their voices in agreement.

Rossi pressed his face to his palm. “The Hauptman-Kommandant will remain silent,” he ordered with a voice like a Tharkad winter. He turned to face Dusk’s expressionless image. “Why,” he asked quietly, “would we choose to fight you with less than our full complement of forces?”

“When you lose,” Dusk gloated, “the troops that you did not bid would be granted hegira.”

“Is that word supposed to mean something?” Rossi asked pointedly.

“It means everything,” Dusk replied. Samantha shuddered—Dusk’s voice carried as much conviction as any Kurita samurai speaking of his honor. “What forces,” Dusk continued, “do you bid.”

“We’ll fight you with everything we have,” Rossi announced quietly, “except Hauptman-Kommandant Caeser Steiner.”

Dusk’s eyebrow quirked with intrigue, “Steiner?”

“Leutnant Clover, sever the connection,” Rossi ordered. “I want everyone deployed within the hour and I want our squadrons in the air now; and,” The Colonel turned, facing her directly, “I want to know why nobody spotted these damned Steel Vipers before they hit Orbit!”

Caeser Steiner glowered at his replacement, “Colonel—I won’t be left out of this fight.”

“Hauptmann,” The Colonel replied quietly, “You will be on special assignment. There are two other scions of House Steiner on this planet; you will escort them to the Dropship Tigris and get them off this planet.”

“Sir,” Caeser protested, clearly not liking the idea of being left out of this fight.

“It is not,” Rossi countered, “a request.”






2nd Donegal Guard ‘Mechwarrior List
Colonel Aldo Rossi – CP-10-Z Cyclops “Polyphemus” (g4 p5) (WarLocke)
Leutnant Samantha Clover – ZEU-6S Zeus (g4 p5) (Mukaikubo)
Staff Sergeant Major Gerhart von Kempner – BNC-3S Banshee “Screaming Mimi” (g4 p5) (Angry_Ed)
Corporal Richard Hunter – WLF-1 Wolfhound (g4 p5) (Spencerb)

With special guests
Tank Crew Twelve: Sergeant Bonnie Hammer, Private Sarah Montesquieu, PFC John Blucher – Rommel “Message in a Bottle” (g4 d5) (raverrn)



Mission Objectives
Survive for 20 Turns – At least one ‘Mech survives to the end of Turn 20 (sorry, the tank does not count)! (Total Victory)
Defeat Beta Star – Destroy or disable all ‘Mechs in Beta Star (Partial Victory)



Special Gimmicks
Tigris and Euphrates: Are dropships. The Euphrates is Height 6 and can absorb 200 damage. The Tigris is height 3 and can absorb 80 damage. They can be attacked, but if the Tigris is disabled the mission will count as a loss. The Steel Vipers will not attack the dropships unless provoked.



New House Rules:
Random Ace: Every turn, one member (each) of Beta and Gamma stars (selected randomly) automatically wins initiative. If only one ‘Mech remains active, there is a 50/50 chance on a given turn that ‘Mechwarrior will win initiative.

Relentless: Once per battle, Clan forces may seize the initiative after destroying an enemy ‘Mech. All Clan ‘Mechs automatically win initiative on the next turn.

Zellbrigen: The ‘Mechs of Gamma Star cannot engage unless Beta Star is destroyed or they are fired upon. Clan ‘Mechs will challenge a specific target and focus on that target above all others (this target will be publically visible). Clan ‘Mechs will not voluntarily move out of weapons range of their target. Clan ‘Mechs will not engage another Clan ‘Mech’s target unless fired upon by that target. Clan ‘Mechs will not fire at prone targets and will allow them to stand, unless fired upon by that target. Clan ‘Mechs will NOT hesitate to fire at an immobile (pilot unconscious / ‘Mech overheated or shut down) target.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Mar 24, 2011

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.

quote:

Defeat Charlie Star – Destroy or disable all ‘Mechs in Beta Star (Partial Victory)

So which is it? Beta or Charlie? Not that either would be easy.

Also we finally get to see the clans in action. This will be a blast, quiaff?

e: A Cyclops, Zeus, Banshee, and a Wolfhound. Why are the Donegal Guard sending their recon force out to meet the clanners?

KnoxZone fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Mar 24, 2011

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Glad I'm not within this particular group of cannon-fodder soldiers. This won't go well.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

KnoxZone posted:

So which is it? Beta or Charlie? Not that either would be easy.

Beta. I typo'd.

KnoxZone posted:

Also we finally get to see the clans in action. This will be a blast, quiaff?

e: A Cyclops, Zeus, Banshee, and a Wolfhound. Why are the Donegal Guard sending their recon force out to meet the clanners?

That's the command lance. You never know when you need a light, fast 'Mech to run some orders somewhere.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Should that be the CP-10-Z Cyclops?

There's actually some decent firepower here with the IS lance and the Rommel. It'll be a tough fight, but it can be done.

Two courses of action:

1: stay at range, try not to die.
2: mix it up all personal like.

Both have pros and cons. The Clanners will gently caress your poo poo up at range, and gently caress it up faster up close. The close-range advantage is that your pilots will be more likely to throw the boot in than the Clanners, and the tank and Cyclops have AC20s, the Banshee an AC10 and multiple SRMs and Med Lasers.

In any other game I'd recommend using the Wolfhound to protect against backstabbers, but here it'll have to stand or fall on it's own merits.

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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
So how are Mech forces organized, anyway? I know it's usually 4 to a lance, but where does it go from there?

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