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dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Even if he wasn't knocked out he's more likely to hurt himself more trying to stand with 2 bad leg actuators than get up and do anything.

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DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company
Orders are in. Moving to 1612, firing at the Yu Huang.

What the hell? Stranger things have happened.

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer

PoptartsNinja posted:

No lie, I adore the Jinggau. Of all the `Mechs from its particular era, it's my favorite.

It looks like what happens if you take an Ebon Jaguar, and sold it as one of those Chinese street merchants with the iPhones.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
If I'm directly behind the Wyvern, in hex 820, is it still able to shoot me with one arm's worth of weapons (All it's pulses are in the right arm so that would be bad)?

If so I'm just going to stay at ~7 hexes range and plug it from a distance instead of potentially eating all three of it's lasers at point blank on a hail mary shot.

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Gwaihir posted:

If I'm directly behind the Wyvern, in hex 820, is it still able to shoot me with one arm's worth of weapons (All it's pulses are in the right arm so that would be bad)?

If so I'm just going to stay at ~7 hexes range and plug it from a distance instead of potentially eating all three of it's lasers at point blank on a hail mary shot.

You can always shoot one arm directly behind you, but it can't get its right arm to 0920.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
Hm, that puts me a little closer to the incoming reinforcements than I'd like. Given the facing, I'm not sure I'd be able to break LoS on the next turn. I'll have to check my to-hits, but I think I'll just head over to 0218 or so and shoot my ERLL and ERPPC from longer range and hope that the War Dog's closer ranged shots are enough to finish the job.

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."
You could back to 0816 the next round, with the hangar in the way.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
I guess it just depends on how willing the Capellans are to blow down those dinky light buildings to get to me. I'll have to take a look at my options some more when I get home before sending in a PM. 920 is probably plenty safe, and I would really like to make sure that we take as many pulse lasers off the field as possible.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
OK, definitely going to go to 0920. It should help quite a bit to make sure the Wyvern goes down. Going to stack my ghost targets on the War Dog, since the Wyvern can't actually shoot me in 920, but it can shoot it's pulses at the War Dog on 8s. There's no way I can get tagged on the followup turn unless Comstar opens up on us or the Sha Yu turns back around.

Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jul 8, 2015

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


PBJ posted:

It looks like what happens if you take an Ebon Jaguar, and sold it as one of those Chinese street merchants with the iPhones.

"Ebon Jaguar." Gotta Clan-weeb pretty hard to use that one.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Even Clanners call it Cauldron Born.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


T.G. Xarbala posted:

Even Clanners call it Cauldron Born.

Yeah, just read Twilight of the Clans. That Jag galaxy commander is always talking about the loving thing.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
The Ebon Jaguar name didn't get invented until after the novel line was basically finished.

I'm a Clanaboo and I didn't know it has an "official" Clan name until after I started this LP. :tinfoil:

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


PoptartsNinja posted:

The Ebon Jaguar name didn't get invented until after the novel line was basically finished.

I'm a Clanaboo and I didn't know it has an "official" Clan name until after I started this LP. :tinfoil:

They only gave it one because people on the official forums sperged about how the fluff said the name came from DCMS pilots on Luthien. The writers literally forgot that it didn't have a "Clan" name for over a decade. Also, all the Clans except the Jags called it a Cauldron Born anyway and now all the Jags are dead.

Defiance Industries fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jul 8, 2015

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Defiance Industries posted:

"Ebon Jaguar." Gotta Clan-weeb pretty hard to use that one.

Huh, I totally forgot that it was called Cauldron Born by clans and IS alike since forever. I always remembered the Mechwarrior 3 field guide mentioning its clan name.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


It was mentioned in MW3? Weird. I thought it first got a Clan designation in TRO:3058U.

What was the field guide? I looked in the manual and didn't see it there.

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby

Dolash posted:

Robot-fighting as spectator sport sounds pretty exciting because it gets around a lot of the "giant robots wouldn't actually be very useful in war" problems by going straight for being cool and fun. Still, I suspect if these two actually square off they'll either prove embarrassingly incapable of actually fighting or else one of them will have a technical glitch or immediately flounder on impact and end the "fight" in ten seconds.

It'll be like the mech equivalent of the undercards at the very first Ultimate Fighting Championship. A guy wearing one boxing glove vs. a 400 pound guy who just stands there.

But hey, look at how far they've come in 20-whatever years.

Pooncha
Feb 15, 2014

Making the impossible possumable
I don't know about a field guide, but the technical reference called it a Cauldron Born.



I'm glad I still kept the physical copy. :)

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Pooncha posted:

I don't know about a field guide, but the technical reference called it a Cauldron Born.



I'm glad I still kept the physical copy. :)

Yeah, it looks like I got the resources that came with MW3 mixed up with TRO:3058U somehow.

My point about the physical resemblance still stands, though. :colbert:

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

That little bit of oversight re: the Cauldron-Born's official designation actually provides a nifty bit of setting fluff.

The Clan Omni whose reporting name was so ubiquitous that even Clanners used it.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

It amuses me how it has MUST SHOW EVERY BARREL syndrome but the model moved one of the LRM tubes over to the weird 4 tubes for 2 SRMs block.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


T.G. Xarbala posted:

That little bit of oversight re: the Cauldron-Born's official designation actually provides a nifty bit of setting fluff.

The Clan Omni whose reporting name was so ubiquitous that even Clanners used it.

It's also a really fitting name because those fuckers can never die.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Behind Enemy Lines: Tactical Update 7

“Yup, definitely another lance over here,” Hellhound confirmed. His Cerberus’s bulbous arms rose as he snapped off a couple of shots with his Gauss Rifles encouraging the new arrivals to keep their heads down and stay respectful. The enemy’s reply was immediate, the azure flash of a PPC passed meters over the Cerberus’s left shoulder. A flight of LRMs fell short, peppering the rusty soil with explosions.

Bergit Lowe kicked her Nightstar into gear. Hers was the slowest machine in the company. Unlike the rest of the lance, she had to balance the need to attack with their need to escape later without abandoning her machine. Major Marik’s life hung in the balance, true, but she wasn’t about to let the Capellans get their hands on her `Mech.

“Any idea what we’ve got, L—” she corrected herself midway through saying LT, “—hound?”

“I can only see one,” the Lieutenant said. “It’s new. drat the Helm core, the Capellans are catching up faster than I’d like.”

“Who knows what else they’ve been up to,” Bad grumbled. “I keep hearing rumors about salvaged ‘Clan’ `Mechs on the market. Maybe they’re reverse engineering the things.”

“If they are, we are,” Bergit pointed out. “I wouldn’t worry about that. Just having a machine doesn’t give you enough technical expertise to build one. They’re probably just doing the same thing we are: taking existing frames or recovered blueprints, modifying them a bit, and putting on different armor arrangements to see what works best against Lostech weapons. That’s why the Cerberus’s armor is rounded: with luck it’ll deflect a Gauss Rifle round rather than letting one punch straight through.”








Movement Phase
Maelstrom (Player)
- Generating Ghost Targets on War Dog (4 base + 2 ECM Tuning = 6): rolled 5, fails!



Shooting Phase
War Dog (Player)
- Fires Gauss Rifle at Wyvern (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 9, hit Rear Right Torso (0/5 armor, 1/11 structure remaining)! TAC!
- Fires Large Pulse Laser at Wyvern (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 9, Right Arm (0/7 structure remaining)!
- - Damage transfers to Rear Right Torso (0/11 structure remaining)
- - Damage transfers to Rear Center Torso (0/5 armor, 3/14 structure remaining)! Crit!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Wyvern (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 8, Right Arm Center Torso (0/14 structure remaining)! `Mech destroyed!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Wyvern (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 9, Right Arm Center Torso!
- Fires Streak SRM-2 One-Shot at Wyvern (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 2, fails to lock-on!
- Fires Streak SRM-2 One-Shot at Wyvern (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 7, fails to lock-on!
- Gains 20 heat, sinks 20!

Nightstar (Player)
- Holds fire!
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 28!

Maelstrom (Player)
- Target destroyed!
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 34!

Cerberus (Player)
- Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 7, miss!
- Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 6, miss!
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 30!

Wyvern
- Torso-twists to threaten hex 0722!
- Fires Large Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 10, hit Left Leg (18/28 armor remaining)!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 9, hit Left Arm (18/24 armor remaining)!
- Fires Medium Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 8, hit Right Leg (22/28 armor remaining)! TAC!
- Gains 27 heat, sinks 20!

Sha-yu
- Fires ER Large Laser at Car (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 5, miss!
- Fires ER Large Laser at Car (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 9, hit (0/1 structure remaining)! Vehicle destroyed!
- Gains 26 heat, sinks 26!

Yu Huang
- Fires ER PPC at Cerberus (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 10, miss!
- Fires LRM-10 at Cerberus (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 5, miss!
- Gains 21 heat, sinks 26!

Thunder
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 22!

Penetrator
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 24!

Jinggau
- Gains 2 heat, sinks 26!



End Phase
War Dog (Player)
- Through-Armor Critical chance in Right Leg! No critical hit sustained!









Player Status:




Opposing Force Status:




Neutral Status




Mission Objective:
- Protect Carlos Marik (0/1)

Secondary Objectives:
- Damage but don’t destroy the Civillian `Mechbay in hex 0517 (1/1)
- Destroy the Capellan Checkpoint in hex 1418 (1/1)
- - Make it look like an accident (?/1)
- Avoid Antagonizing ComStar (0/1)

Vengeance Counter: 3



Special Rules:
Dusk – This mission takes place at dusk, applying a +1 penalty to-hit. This penalty may worsen if the mission lasts long enough for night to fall.

Escort Mission – This mission has a mobile objective that must be defended.



Orders Due: Midnight Saturday!

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
Hmmm. The Grim Reaper just watch the Sha Yu blow up that car point blank and is now turned around watching it. Also, uh oh, it's hunting, and not running.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Well, poo poo, I hope Carlos got out of the car before the car got blown to itty bitty pieces.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax
It's alright, Carlos will just jack the Grand Titan.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

jng2058 posted:

Well, poo poo, I hope Carlos got out of the car before the car got blown to itty bitty pieces.

Unless he's in the purple and black car!

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



That is worrisome.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

jng2058 posted:

Well, poo poo, I hope Carlos got out of the car before the car got blown to itty bitty pieces.

The objective didn't fail yet, at least.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
Viva Miriya, think we should hang around on the left side of the map, like around the 3 line behind the civvie 'Mechbay, or the dome directly south with the downed Bloodhound? That or just completely retreat north and sit in cover there taking potshots?

Being able to shoot from a flank is really excellent and without jumpjets I feel like we'd be at a pretty big disadvantage up in the hills north of town, since they will be able to close in on us much faster than we can keep distance/los broken.
On the other hand, we've still got a slight edge in weight and the initiative lets us get backshots/take lots of kicks pretty easily if they close in to point blank range.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Gwaihir posted:

Unless he's in the purple and black car!

Psion posted:

The objective didn't fail yet, at least.



Well, Purple and Black are the Marik colors, and we haven't failed yet, the new guys have ignored the purple and black car, and Hunting Boy is going after the purple crime car next, so it looks good for Carlos if you're right.

Even so, you guys should consider killing or at least distracting that Sha-yu if you can.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

jng2058 posted:

Well, Purple and Black are the Marik colors

I was wondering when someone would catch that. It also has the same movement trail color as the players, and is the same color purple as the rest of the unit.

I guess I did a pretty good job keeping Captain Marik incognito. :shobon:

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

jng2058 posted:



Well, Purple and Black are the Marik colors, and we haven't failed yet, the new guys have ignored the purple and black car, and Hunting Boy is going after the purple crime car next, so it looks good for Carlos if you're right.

Even so, you guys should consider killing or at least distracting that Sha-yu if you can.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like they can do either; the hospital is in the way. Best hope is that the black car was his, but he'd already disembarked, or that the Comstar mech interferes itself.



edit: ^^ Or that.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Poptarts: I know I didn't tell you anything about the ECM in my orders. I didn't do so because I figured once the ECM was set to GHOST TARGET mode it would continue running that way until I changed that. Did you forget or is it my fault for not specifying?

Gwaihir posted:

Viva Miriya, think we should hang around on the left side of the map, like around the 3 line behind the civvie 'Mechbay, or the dome directly south with the downed Bloodhound? That or just completely retreat north and sit in cover there taking potshots?

Being able to shoot from a flank is really excellent and without jumpjets I feel like we'd be at a pretty big disadvantage up in the hills north of town, since they will be able to close in on us much faster than we can keep distance/los broken.
On the other hand, we've still got a slight edge in weight and the initiative lets us get backshots/take lots of kicks pretty easily if they close in to point blank range.

No gently caress that lets egress back to the rest of the team. Use the buildings for cover until we can get to the nightstar roughly.

Viva Miriya fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jul 9, 2015

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


PoptartsNinja posted:

I was wondering when someone would catch that. It also has the same movement trail color as the players, and is the same color purple as the rest of the unit.

I guess I did a pretty good job keeping Captain Marik incognito. :shobon:

And people say the FWL's espionage servies are bad, that camo's bullet-proof!

Although it is not helping the Capellans' case with Comstar that one of them claimed the FWL blew up the Precentor's family's car and another of them running around blowing up cars.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Viva Miriya posted:

Poptarts: I know I didn't tell you anything about the ECM in my orders. I didn't do so because I figured once the ECM was set to GHOST TARGET mode it would continue running that way until I changed that. Did you forget or is it my fault for not specifying?

I default ECMs out to standard ECM mode unless you specify. Every other ECM mode is a special rule, sorry about the confusion.

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Another vengeance counter increase coming from the car, I suppose.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

PoptartsNinja posted:

I default ECMs out to standard ECM mode unless you specify. Every other ECM mode is a special rule, sorry about the confusion.

Can you set my ECM to perma Ghost Target mode please?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Is killing customers frowned upon by the holy space-telephone-engineers?

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Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Viva Miriya posted:

Can you set my ECM to perma Ghost Target mode please?

Gotta declare a target for it!

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