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Gwaihir posted:He could back to 1015 and turn to face directly north, then torso twist to shoot the Yu Huang. Leaves him the most flexible moves for next turn. If the cerb and I tie up the Jinggau and Sha Yu he should be able to escape. That's a great option. 7s with the Gauss and Pulses on the Yu. Nightstar could get 8s on him as well.
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4 base + 2 enemy move + 2 range isn't it? Assuming he stands still though.
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It's dusk. Keeping track of lighting is easier if you just apply it as a flat increase to gunnery for everyone. ("he" is me)
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The Merry Marauder posted:It's dusk. Keeping track of lighting is easier if you just apply it as a flat increase to gunnery for everyone. Ah of course. Easy to forget that. On 9s you'll still going to average one hit. Worth a shot. Might be worth trying to blow the Sha Yu away this turn for those in the area. I could see him being a real pest. Kial fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Remember you can't change elevation while walking in reverse, so backing up to 0511 won't work; you'll have to turn and run over there, and won't have enough MP left to turn back around fully. 1112 is the spot that jumps out at me - I think the only one with LOS on you from there is the Yu Huang, and you'll have partial cover. 1221 is probably what I'd do, though the following turns may get a bit rough. It just doesn't have great move options this turn.
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Note that you do have the high risk option (risk is the war dog gets shot in the rear end pretty bad otherwise it would be a super low risk option). Cerb stands and delivers, maelstrom walks forward 5 hexes to melee range and the war dog backs up and makes the turn, this does present the rear armor to the jinggau for a moment but the dice pools aren't actually that great for it, and you can have every mech pounding the jinggau while the enemy is forced to split its fire due to being denied targets. with waves of fire from short range. (wardog can torso twist to fire its lpl!) Cerb is going to have 9s for the gauss and 6s for shooting with its pulse lasers, maelstrom a more modest 8. Nightstar is going to be 10 to hit with its gauss, wardog a 7 to hit with the lpl, maelstrom is going to be 9s all around. It a lot of firepower you can pour on and the maelstrom can also put out a kick in the physical phase against eiher the jinggau or if it is dead (hopefully) the other guy, eitherway the enemy is actually going to have problems with getting good move mods against you with them next turn if done right.
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AtomikKrab posted:Note that you do have the high risk option (risk is the war dog gets shot in the rear end pretty bad otherwise it would be a super low risk option). Cerb stands and delivers, maelstrom walks forward 5 hexes to melee range and the war dog backs up and makes the turn, this does present the rear armor to the jinggau for a moment but the dice pools aren't actually that great for it, and you can have every mech pounding the jinggau while the enemy is forced to split its fire due to being denied targets. with waves of fire from short range. (wardog can torso twist to fire its lpl!) Cerb is going to have 9s for the gauss and 6s for shooting with its pulse lasers, maelstrom a more modest 8. Nightstar is going to be 10 to hit with its gauss, wardog a 7 to hit with the lpl, maelstrom is going to be 9s all around. It a lot of firepower you can pour on and the maelstrom can also put out a kick in the physical phase against eiher the jinggau or if it is dead (hopefully) the other guy, eitherway the enemy is actually going to have problems with getting good move mods against you with them next turn if done right. I don't mind showing my rear end to the jinggau if it means we can possibly cripple it this turn.
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Viva Miriya posted:I don't mind showing my rear end to the jinggau if it means we can possibly cripple it this turn. not a bad chance of annihilating it this turn. The nightstar should shoot first given ptns priority with weight, then the cerb, so all 4 nice huge hole punching gauss should fire at it then the lighter weapons to attempt to burn through and exploit any damage. oh and the night star has a erppc which will also be medium range I think so even more attacks. The Risk of death is from that gauss, if it hits your center rear torso it is going to penetrate then you could die, if it doesn't hit there or misses it will take 3 hits to the ct (2 if the pulse hits there) to start doing crits. Oooh and regardless having those 3 there sets up very well for next turn regardless of the enemies action. (disclaimer, bad luck can stomp you very very badly.) As to why the jinggau and not the sha yu for firing, Sha yu is in a much worse positioning spot simply by not having jump jets even though it is much faster it can't build a good movemod without either running or moving out of support range of the rest of the enemy team. AtomikKrab fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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Jul 16, 2015 08:45
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Behind Enemy Lines: Tactical Update 9
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The Jinggau also mounts all of its weapons in its arms so blowing them off will cripple it.
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So the Jing would hit on .... 4 base + 1 dusk + 2 move + 1 enemy move. 8s. Risky move for sure. Crippling that mech would be a coup though.
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If I stand and deliver, don't the Jinggau and Sha Yu get shots on my Cerebus on, like, 7s? 'Cause that strikes me as Potentially Very Bad. e: walking through rubble is +1 MP, right?
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Kial posted:So the Jing would hit on .... 4 base + 1 dusk + 2 move + 1 enemy move. 8s. Risky move for sure. Crippling that mech would be a coup though. AtomikKrab posted:not a bad chance of annihilating it this turn. The nightstar should shoot first given ptns priority with weight, then the cerb, so all 4 nice huge hole punching gauss should fire at it then the lighter weapons to attempt to burn through and exploit any damage. oh and the night star has a erppc which will also be medium range I think so even more attacks. Kill yourself AtomikKrab! Not getting pwned in the butte on 8s lmao. The rest of you can jump the Jinggau though.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:e: walking through rubble is +1 MP, right? And a PSR.
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AtomikKrab posted:Note that you do have the high risk option (risk is the war dog gets shot in the rear end pretty bad otherwise it would be a super low risk option). Cerb stands and delivers, maelstrom walks forward 5 hexes to melee range and the war dog backs up and makes the turn, this does present the rear armor to the jinggau for a moment but the dice pools aren't actually that great for it, and you can have every mech pounding the jinggau while the enemy is forced to split its fire due to being denied targets. with waves of fire from short range. (wardog can torso twist to fire its lpl!) Cerb is going to have 9s for the gauss and 6s for shooting with its pulse lasers, maelstrom a more modest 8. Nightstar is going to be 10 to hit with its gauss, wardog a 7 to hit with the lpl, maelstrom is going to be 9s all around. It a lot of firepower you can pour on and the maelstrom can also put out a kick in the physical phase against eiher the jinggau or if it is dead (hopefully) the other guy, eitherway the enemy is actually going to have problems with getting good move mods against you with them next turn if done right. Viva Miriya posted:Kill yourself AtomikKrab! Not getting pwned in the butte on 8s lmao. The rest of you can jump the Jinggau though. Krab were you thinking that the War Dog backs to 0916 and torso twists to get it's right arm on the Jinggau? I don't think that's too terrible a risk if we can even just knock the Jinggau over this turn. We're going to have to start rolling dice at some point. Out of the three of us we can pick one for ghost targets to get through the Sha Yu's ECCM, so I'd lean towards whoever the Jinggau has the better to hit numbers on. Which is almost certainly the Cerb, going by that plan.
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PTN's dice have a history of punishing those who court buttdisaster.
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As to danger on the cerb, it is a 95 ton assault mech facing a heavy and a medium, and with the medium pulse lasers at short range, which are hitting on 6s you technically have the firepower advantage. and if they concentrate on the cerb they can't shoot the war dog thus saving that mechs. Assaults can soak a hell of a lot of damage. I think you are facing 26 + 41, so 67 damage total, the cerb alone can throw back 54 damage max, maelstrom another 60ish and the war dog a 10.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:PTN's dice have a history of punishing those who court buttdisaster. *raises hand* I was not sanguine.
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Just to keep everyone in the loop (I've mentioned this already): I'll be visiting my parents for 2 weeks from the 7/23 to the 8/7, so this Saturday's update will likely be the last one for a bit. I'm going to try to get one out on 7/22 but it's a low priority and I may not have time for it. I was hoping this battle would be further along, but that's just how it works out. I hate interrupting the flow right as we're nearing the climax but I haven't seen my folks (or my little sister) in two years.
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Family first, always. No worries, gives us more time to strategize ourselves to death.
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Your sister may have been replaced by a clone from a Fu Manchu-like villain, so you need all your time and energy to focus on that.
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It's because of this thread. Your family wants to make sure you are still alive since this is all you've been doing for years now. I wonder if they'll recognize you.
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Gwaihir posted:e: I thiiink if you go to 414, turn to face 413, and torso twist to face 514, you should be able to shoot the Yu Huang and block LoS from the Jinggau and Sha Yu. Orders in, doing this. With the addendum that if the LOS isn't blocked the way we think to please let me know so I can change tacks. 
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If you're still around, how about going for Krab's idea? I think it's one of our better chances to seriously hurt or knock out one of the enemies chasing us. You sit still and unload everything on the Jinggau, I'll run forward and do the same. War Dog and I will both ghost target you.
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Put in my orders for walking right up to 817 and alpha striking + kicking the Jinggau. (Unless a miracle gauss shot takes him out before my turn comes up, in which case I'm unloading on the Sha Yu!)
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Fffffffffffffffff you talked me into it. If I get blown up I will blame you.
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There's a reason I like the Jinggau Edit: Also, I just realized the Maelstrom is ED 209
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Oh dear. That's not good :x (I'm picturing the ED209 flailing around after falling over now) Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Ahahahaha, ok. The odds against that happening were so slim I'm tempted to call that a kill. Edit: Bumping up the Vengeance Counter because that was pure humiliation right there. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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I do hope that means there's an armless Yu Huang kicking around right now. 
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Behind Enemy Lines: Tactical Update 10 “Arm’s breached,” Ballista announced. He twisted a little, trying to turn his left side towards the enemy to cover the exposed charging coils of his Gauss Rifle. “Bad.” “But y’know what?” he continued, eyes focused on the supine form of the Yu Huang. “It was worth it.”   Movement Phase War Dog (Player) - Generating Ghost Targets on Cerberus (4 base + 2 ECM Tuning = 6): rolled 7, succeeds! MOS: 1 - Unable to enter hex 0915, movement ends in hex 1015 - - Reason: units may not change elevation levels while moving in reverse (TW p. 49) Maelstrom (Player) - Generating Ghost Targets on Cerberus (4 base + 2 ECM Tuning = 6): rolled 8, succeeds! MOS: 2 Shooting Phase War Dog (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 8): rolled 8, hit Center Torso (28/43 armor remaining)! - Fires Large Pulse Laser at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (19/43 armor remaining)! - Fires One-Shot Streak SRM-2 at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 3, fails to lock-on! - Fires One-Shot Streak SRM-2 at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 8, fails to lock-on! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 20! Nightstar (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 4, miss! - Fires ER PPC at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 17 heat, sinks 28! Maelstrom (Player) - Fires ER PPC at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Fires ER Large Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 9, hit Left Torso (16/24 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 3, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 4, miss! - Fires Small Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Small Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 8, miss! - Fires Small Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 9, hit Right Arm (14/17 armor remaining)! - Gains 37 heat, sinks 34! Cerberus (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk + 1 minimum range = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk + 1 minimum range = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 12, hit Center Torso (22/28 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 10, hit Left Arm (11/17 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Jinggau (4 base + 0 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 6): rolled 10, hit Center Torso (16/28 armor remaining)! - Gains 18 heat, sinks 30! Sha-yu - Fires ER Large Laser at Maelstrom (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Maelstrom (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 8, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Maelstrom (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 4, miss! - Gains 24 heat, sinks 26! Yu Huang - Fires ER PPC at War Dog (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 6): rolled 8, hit Center Torso (26/36 armor remaining)! - Fires Autocannon/20 at War Dog (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 8): rolled 10, hit Right Arm (4/24 armor remaining)! - Gains 24 heat, sinks 26! Penetrator - Fires ER Large Laser at Light Building Hex 1117 (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 2): rolled 4, hit (7/15 structure remaining)! - Fires ER Large Laser at Light Building Hex 1117 (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 2): rolled 8, hit (0/15 structure remaining)! Hex collapses! - Gains 26 heat, sinks 24! Thunder - Fires Autocannon/20 at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 9): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 9): rolled 11, hit Right Arm (0/24 armor, 10/12 structure remaining)! Crit! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 9): rolled 10, hit Right Arm (4/12 structure remaining)! Crit! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at War Dog (4 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 9): rolled 10, hit Left Torso (17/23 armor remaining)! - Gains 21 heat, sinks 22! Jinggau - Attempts to resist Ghost Targets (4 base + 1 Highest MOS = 5): rolled 9, succeeds! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Cerberus (4 base+ 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk + 1 minimum range = 8): rolled 10, hit Right Leg (12/27 armor remaining)! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 4, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 8, hit Left Torso (19/24 armor remaining)! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 7, hit Right Leg (7/27 armor remaining)! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 7, hit Center Torso (31/36 armor remaining)! - Gains 26 heat, sinks 26! End Phase Yu Huang - Must pass a piloting test or fall (3 base + 1 massive damage = 4): rolled 2, fails! - - Must pass a piloting to avoid pilot damage (3 base + 1 massive damage + 2 avoiding damage = 6): rolled 5, fails! - Suffers 9 damage in the fall to Left Leg (32/37 armor remaining), Head (5/9 armor remaining (pilot hit))! - Must pass a 5+ consciousness test: rolled 3, fails! Jinggau - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 1 massive damage = 5): rolled 8, succeeds! War Dog - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 1 massive damage = 5): rolled 10, succeeds! - Critical chance in Right Arm! No critical hit sustained! - Critical chance in Right Arm! No critical hit sustained! Cerberus - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 1 massive damage = 5): rolled 7, succeeds! Physical Combat Phase: Maelstrom (Player) - Kicks Jinggau (4 base + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement - 2 kick = 7): rolled 4, miss! Sha Yu - Kicks Maelstrom (4 base + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement - 2 kick = 6): rolled 4, miss! End Phase: Maelstrom (Player) - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 0 missed kick = 4): rolled 9, succeeds! Sha Yu - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 0 missed kick = 4): rolled 4, succeeds!   Player Status:  Opposing Force Status:   Neutral Status  Mission Objective: - Protect Carlos Marik (0/1) Secondary Objectives: - Damage but don’t destroy the Civillian `Mechbay in hex 0517 (1/1) - Destroy the Capellan Checkpoint in hex 1418 (1/1) - - Make it look like an accident (1/1) - Avoid Antagonizing ComStar (0/1) Vengeance Counter: 4 Message Counter: 3 Special Rules:  Dusk – This mission takes place at dusk, applying a +1 penalty to-hit. This penalty may worsen if the mission lasts long enough for night to fall. Escort Mission – This mission has a mobile objective that must be defended.Orders Due: Midnight Tuesday! (I can't guarantee I'll be able to update, but I'll try - and I'd rather not have to worry about orders the next two weeks  )
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PoptartsNinja posted:Yu Huang Haha, Battletech.
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Doh, I swore we could back uphill with a PSR in earlier scenarios. That might have saved the breeched arm from the extra range + move mod! That said, ROFL that Yu Huang. Battletech!
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Sucks about the soon-to-be-lost Gauss Rifle, good job on knocking out the pilot in the enemy Mech though. Is there a way goonlance can finish him? Because if we don't finish him, then the loss of the Gauss Rifle without taking out an enemy mech would be a pretty big hit to the team wouldn't it?
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Shooting-wise not a great turn for the Goons, but that unlikely fall evens things up a little.
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Do we get extra vengeance points for shooting someone while they're down and unconscious, or do Capellans go over that in basic?
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Voyager I posted:Do we get extra vengeance points for shooting someone while they're down and unconscious, or do Capellans go over that in basic? Either way we should 100% shoot the hell out of the Capellans, especially an unconscious and immobile one.
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Hm, that Grand Titan 'Mech isn't painted in Comstar White. Should we go for the explicit cripple on the Yu Huang? Since the pilot is unconscious we should be able to drill that RT and kill the XL engine. Or if it counts as mission killed we'd better focus on the ones that are still mobile. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Wow, the Yu Huang going down like that was really unexpected. I guess his status wasn't updated to reflect him being unconscious and out of the fight. But still, you guys took out the Capellan Captain equivalent with that unlikely series of events. That should be worth more on the Vengeance Counter.
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