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PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Grave Digger: Tactical Update 1

“What’s up, Zeke? Why’re you slowing?”

“Gang standoff, I think.” It would’ve been charitable to call Ezekiel mar Vohrs’ response terse, the grizzled old tank Sand Whaler had been roaming the deserts before Krel had been born. Now in his seventies, his eyesight wasn’t so hot. Not after decades of staring through binoculars searching for signs of the scarred whale that had killed his wife and son. His tank was as ancient and creaky as he himself was, but in spite of its poor speed it was highly responsive.

Krel peered out of his front windshield, past the drab green Marsden II. The tiny spec of a high-bodied Rotunda armored car sat at rest beyond, its quartet of machine guns pointed at—he shifted position, leaning on Riber’s lap to get a better view. She cursed him and slammed on the breaks when he knocked her arms from the steering column. Krel whistled.

“Hoo—a Dig Lord.”

As if on cue, the brilliant crimson machine twisted the Desert Hawg’s way. The pilot’s voice boomed from the `Mech’s loudspeakers in the peculiar, lilting tones of a madman trying to emulate the language he’d seen on an episode of the insufferable Davion sitcom Royal’s Pride. “Excuse me, good sirs and madams. I appear to be in a spot of trouble. These fine upstanding gentlemen claim I’m trespassing into the demesne of the Cloud Chasers. I would be most indebted to you if you would be so kind as to help me excruciate myself from this facile predicament.”

Krel thought for a long moment. Cutting through Cloud Chaser territory would save them half a day—he’d already been doing just that. It’d come down to a fight no matter what. “Fine,” Krell transmitted. “We’ll help, but I’m cashing in the debt right away: you’ll help escort us to our destination and then leave immediately afterwards, no questions asked.”




[N/A]



[No Combat]








Player Status:




Ally Status:




Opposing Force Status:




Special Rules
Drifting: Vehicles may shift one column to the left or right during the movement phase without expending an MP to turn, provided the move does not cross through an enemy unit or terrain that would cost additional MP. Adjacent vehicles may be rammed for low damage with a sideswipe and lighter vehicles may be knocked off course next turn!
Half-Height Terrain: All terrain features rise to only half their normal height. Vehicles behind a height 1 hill may still attack and be attacked, but may only receive damage to their turrets. Vehicles without turrets are hidden as normal. Hills only cost 1 MP to climb rather than the additional 2. BattleMech and IndustrialMech units treat height 1 hexes as if they are clear terrain, height 2 as if they are height 1, etc.
Oases: Oases are surrounded by boggy soil that will trap ground vehicles and may attract native fauna.
Mirages: Heat shimmer can make water appear where there is none. Mirages may be driven through safely but may hide other features.
Redline the Engines: The Desert Hawg’s speed cannot be reduced by damage or critical hits.



Primary Objectives
- Protect the Desert Hawg (0/1)
- Disable or destroy the Devil’s Due (0/1)

Secondary Objectives
- Destroy the ???? (0/1)
- Destroy the ???? (0/1)



Orders Due: Midnight Saturday!

Attention, Mechwarriors! You will be receiving a PM / E-Mail soon.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Sep 28, 2016

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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
MANMOWER

amazing

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!
..isn't the Bulldog one of the tanks made by Quikscell, of "because if you weren’t willing to buy the best, you’d be buying from Quikscell" fame? This is going to be amazing suck.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Primarily produced by Bulldog Industries, but Quikscell pays royalties to sell licensed knock-offs the REAL GENUINE ARTICLE!

Narsham
Jun 5, 2008

thetruegentleman posted:

..isn't the Bulldog one of the tanks made by Quikscell, of "because if you weren’t willing to buy the best, you’d be buying from Quikscell" fame? This is going to be amazing suck.

Licensed to them, according to Sarna, by Bulldog Enterprises. Bulldog was then acquired by Buda Imperial Vehicles, making them a Draconis Combine concern.

Odds are your particular Bulldog doesn't have enough of its original bits left that it would matter if it's of Quikscell or Bulldog make, though if an interesting crit happens the fluff may contradict me.

Fake edit: Beaten by PtN himself!

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Wow, that guy did a great job getting backed into a corner by something that couldn't take a single hit from it. And an admittedly slightly more threatening Vedette.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Quikscell: "Your Treasury's Best Friend: because why buy the best when you're just arming a planetary militia?"

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

PoptartsNinja posted:

Depends on how many SRM-6s or machine guns I've slapped on, or whether it's got a (rare for a reason) LB-20X

Voyager I posted:

...usually.

:hfive: dice-roll buddy. i was small time compared to you but I did my part with SRM6s :v:

speaking of which I've been doing some reading on how the new BT is likely to calculate missile rolls and I like it a lot. LRMs are going to be mean.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Psion posted:

:hfive: dice-roll buddy. i was small time compared to you but I did my part with SRM6s :v:

speaking of which I've been doing some reading on how the new BT is likely to calculate missile rolls and I like it a lot. LRMs are going to be mean.

Do tell -- curious to see how they handle that

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
FWIW that shitbox with six MGs would be reasonably likely to blow the tracks off any of the given player vehicles and knock them out of the mission.

Actually, that raises an interesting point? How are you handling motive damage given that the stock rules mean any hit from literally anything is liable to be an instant TKO?


EDIT: oh man I hope the White Whale shows up in this.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Voyager I posted:

FWIW that shitbox with six MGs would be reasonably likely to blow the tracks off any of the given player vehicles and knock them out of the mission.

Actually, that raises an interesting point? How are you handling motive damage given that the stock rules mean any hit from literally anything is liable to be an instant TKO?


EDIT: oh man I hope the White Whale shows up in this.

"Better charge hard and get as big a lead as you can! This poo poo's a race!!!"

vorebane
Feb 2, 2009

"I like Ur and Kavodel and Enki being nice to people for some reason."

Wrong Voter amongst wrong voters
Awesome, this is gonna be a fun mission.

Guitar_Hero posted:

I'm unreasonably sad that I didn't think of this.

Alas I can't take credit for it, someone else in thread said it first.

vorebane fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 28, 2016

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Voyager I posted:

EDIT: oh man I hope the White Whale shows up in this.

You thought it was just Mad Max.

What you didn't realize was, it was also the Star League of Extraordinary Gentlemen!

Starring:

Captain Ahab
Don Quixote
Tank Girl
Lo Pan

and

Ash, in a tank with a chainsaw on the front

Coming this fall to a BattleTech thread near you.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


I hope the missing hand actuator comes into play somehow

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Chronojam posted:

I hope the missing hand actuator comes into play somehow

What do you mean? The missing hand actuator is there so it can mount the rock drill, like how you need to have no hand actuator to mount a 'mech lance.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
As long as we walk without rhythm we will be fine.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
by the by, the real-life giant robot fighter is undergoing stress testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtjHY9xsDw

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Shoeless posted:

What do you mean? The missing hand actuator is there so it can mount the rock drill, like how you need to have no hand actuator to mount a 'mech lance.

I'm just saying, do we even know where the actuator is right now?

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Oh boy, I get to drive the tank full of FOOF! :unsmigghh:

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Chronojam posted:

I'm just saying, do we even know where the actuator is right now?

What do you mean? The Dig Lord doesn't come with that actuator, because by default it has a Rock Drill in that arm which necessitates not having a hand actuator. It's not missing, it never existed. I'm confused.

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

Ammo Types:

Infernos against vehicles do no damage but have an automatic critical hit with no penalty to the roll for every missile that hits.

Dead-Fire SRMs deal 3 damage but have a -2 to the cluster hit roll. The results can be brutal.

Harpoons kill, I believe, 1 infantry/shot but are useless against armor.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey

Chronojam posted:

I'm just saying, do we even know where the actuator is right now?

I am sure it will show up just in the nick of time, to save the day when all hope seems lost.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Hey PTN, what's the damage values on those chemical lasers? I'm thinking of giving that Vedette a wake-up call before it gets to do anything significant.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
They're large lasers with reduced range.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Shoeless posted:

What do you mean? The Dig Lord doesn't come with that actuator, because by default it has a Rock Drill in that arm which necessitates not having a hand actuator. It's not missing, it never existed. I'm confused.

Well PTN just finished pointing out the cast offhandedly (he's got a good grip on interesting characters), so I'll wave you towards the list he held up.

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Chronojam posted:

Well PTN just finished pointing out the cast offhandedly (he's got a good grip on interesting characters), so I'll wave you towards the list he held up.

I feel like we're having two different conversations. What are you talking about?

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Well, my orders are in. Drifting to 1008 and attempting to swat the Rotunda if I can see it. If not I'll hopefully give the Vedette a rude awakening.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Bloody Pom posted:

Well, my orders are in. Drifting to 1008 and attempting to swat the Rotunda if I can see it. If not I'll hopefully give the Vedette a rude awakening.

Looks like the Rotunda has no turret, so you wouldn't be able to blap it behind the hill, but you can certainly shoot the Vedette.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
They'll have a shot from 1008

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Good to hear. I don't want that little bugger taking advantage of his move mods.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Shoeless posted:

I feel like we're having two different conversations. What are you talking about?

I'll quit playing around and making hand puns, this is Ash.

(anything handless is suspect)

Chronojam fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Sep 28, 2016

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Chronojam posted:

I'll quit playing around and making hand puns, this is Ash.

(anything handless is suspect)

Okay, I thought that might be it. But Ash is in the Killdozer with the giant chainsaw, isn't he? The Dig Lord is Don Quixote, going by the airs being put on.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Never be afraid to mix your metaphors.

Also, that Megabot video was fun. For all the discussion in Battletech about how mechs don't really make sense militarily unless you make up a bunch of sci-fi tech and setting weirdness to accommodate them, the potential for giant robot fighting as a sport is real. Perhaps one day robot-fighting TV will go beyond Battlebots and Robot Wars up to Solaris VII.

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!
So! What's the strategy here? Drive straight forward (0807 in the Bulldog's case) and shoot the Vedette with rifle and SRMs (I'm thinking one inferno and HE each) at medium range? Or maybe only use the SRMs, since other people will be shooting at it and ammo might get a bit tight in the future?

I'm pretty sure the Rotunda is gonna be more bullet than vehicle thanks to those machine guns its facing, so a contingency order doesn't seem worthwhile; at least, not against it.

Also, I haven't seen a Spreadsheet come up yet, so I made one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19qBXU8ycc5dgpxXNiTuMzF5JlYVElAYaG3hnz0VEUuo/edit#gid=0. If there's already one up, I could use a link to it.

thetruegentleman fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Sep 28, 2016

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

thetruegentleman posted:

So! What's the strategy here? Drive straight forward (0807 in the Bulldog's case) and shoot the Vedette with rifle and SRMs (I'm thinking one inferno and HE each) at medium range? Or maybe only use the SRMs, since other people will be shooting at it and ammo might get a bit tight in the future?

I'm pretty sure the Rotunda is gonna be more bullet than vehicle thanks to those machine guns its facing, so a contingency order doesn't seem worthwhile; at least, not against it.

The Vedette's only taking damage on a 10, 11, or 12 on the hit location roll.

That said, if you inferno the turret you score a bunch of turret auto-critical chances, and the turret's the location with the highest chance of instantly killing the tank (with another 11 or 12 on the crit table, admittedly).

Still, I'd personally save the infernos for clear shots because you don't have a lot of them to waste if you're firing both racks.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

vorebane posted:

Awesome, this is gonna be a fun mission.


Alas I can't take credit for it, someone else in thread said it first.

I'm just glad someone noticed and used it. I was worried that pun had flown entirely under the radar.

That the mech's able to drift is hilarious. Make like a heavy gear and skate! What's next, roller skate parks and sick jumps for our drivers?

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



TheParadigm posted:

I'm just glad someone noticed and used it. I was worried that pun had flown entirely under the radar.

That the mech's able to drift is hilarious. Make like a heavy gear and skate! What's next, roller skate parks and sick jumps for our drivers?

It can? The house rule specifically states vehicles, not mechs.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Yeah, `Mechs and Vehicles are considered different unit types in BT.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



I believe the half-height terrain rule means that the mech won't expend extra MP to traverse height 1 terrain though, correct?

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Bloody Pom posted:

I believe the half-height terrain rule means that the mech won't expend extra MP to traverse height 1 terrain though, correct?

Yup, so the Dig Lord has its own advantages. Drifting is a way to keep the vehicles moving forward at max speed and avoid minor terrain obstacles while the Dig Lord can ignore some of those obstacles outright.

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