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Artificer posted:But that's hardly Die Gloriously, right? Do the players lose if they die ignominiously? Getting headcapped on turn 1 is peak Battletech, I'm pretty sure that'd count.
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A, because I'm not sanguine about Robert's chances of survival and I'd like to see the next set of players get to do some stupid Clanner tricks for our amusement instead of worrying about getting a fan favorite killed.
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sebmojo posted:Robert's gonna get battletech'd round 1 you'll see. no one man can carry that weight of expectations. Duncan Kalma (and King Dadlas) disagree.
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Goddammit i dont know if I want to see the last stand of the Hells Horses or Korean Roberts and his brand new Stone Rhino.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Stone Rhino. Don't count on that.
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Chapter 25 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 15 October 3056 There’s still killing happening in the compound thanks to the ISF dressing up as blues. The Ghosts turn up to help out, the Caballeros station them to guard the infirmaries or other locations where they aren’t likely to be killed by agents of their own government so more Caballeros can root out space ninjas. Security cameras confirm a suicide van bomb blew a hole in the north wall. The Wobbies don’t know the ISF was involved, and thought the ISF was trying to prevent them from reaching Hachiman. Cassie is hanging out with Zuma (the good mechanic salt-of-the-earth technician) and AstroZombie (the bad intellectual college graduate technician everyone hates). Cassie is watching them fix a BattleMech because sometimes things that fix BattleMechs can be used to break them.  One of the things I don’t like about the 17th Recon trilogy is that it’s fairly anti-intellectual. There’s doers and thinkers (and doers forced to be thinkers) and generally doing something is good while thinking is bad. However, the thinker Astro Zombie lives to the end of the trilogy while the doer Zuma does not. Cassie already knows that old `Mechs can be cantankerous and easy to knock offline by jolting their boards around, so she leaves to take a walk with Kali. After being emotionally destroyed by a teddy bear (the idea that someone else cares whether she lives or dies) Cassie has opened up and achieved friendship rather than steadfastly avoiding it at all costs. Progress! We cut to Archie and Cowboy, Archie is surprised that the Caballeros are willing to help the facility play doctor to injured (non-ISF) security personnel. Raven and her husband French Fry Ames show up. They’re recurring minor characters with a shaky marriage. All this is a set up to teach Archie that ‘Sierra Foxtrot,’ the regiment’s preferred curse, is supposedly short for Santa Fe, the capitol city of Siera, one of the Trinity worlds.  Cowboy you fuckwit.  Archie immediately bites down on his cyanide tooth and dies (this does not happen). Chapter 26 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 16 October 3056 From one spy to another, Subhash Indrahar is existentially terrified by the idea that Chandrasekhar Kurita might be dealing with the Clans. The Draconis Combine is running out of resources and they’ve regimented the lives of their citizens so strictly that trying to clamp down any harder is actually making things worse. Subhash also knows he’s going to die soon (he’s correct, he will be dead by 3058) and his son Ninyu Kerai Indrahar is not ready to succeed him. Just like Gavilan Camacho is not ready to succeed Don Carlos.  He is deeply afraid that his son will choose suicide over duty in the face of the ISF’s failure at the HTE compound leaving Subhash with no one viable to groom as his successor. Subhash Indrahar is 87, an invalid, and wants his duty to be over. He wants to die and leave everything to Ninyu Kerai, but first he has to talk him out of killing himself to atone for his failure. Cassie is a bundle of nervous energy, she’s gotten a big emotional release in the form of some brutal violence, but it isn’t enough. She’s not ready to smoke her cigarette and cuddle.  Kali calls her on that poo poo instantly.  Kali is genuinely worried that Cassie is starting to get addicted to murder. We’ve already established Cassie has no emotional outlets other than violence, and Cassie seethes with rage because she thinks Kali is trying to weaken her. Cassie has another breakdown, but doesn’t resort to violence this time. She wants to know what Kali really wants, and all Kali wants is to be her friend. Kali gives a fairly typical gaze into the abyss speech and Cassie’s got a decent retort to it.  Kali isn’t wrong. Cassie really, really wants to hit her. She doesn’t. Progress! We cut back to Archie for some comic relief, Archie is shocked that the Caballeros have made him when he’s only a slightly more obvious spy than Bethany Cochraine. Fortunately Kali and Cassie walk past and they all go out to drinks so he can cry over his beer.  Borstal Boy is a brand of local Drac beer. Archie is upset that he’s been discovered and wants to know why they didn’t out him immediately. They didn’t want to, mostly. You’re getting a lot of quotes this chapter, but it’s a good chapter.  Cowboy. Ninyu Kerai is not going to commit suicide, but he is utterly pissed at Enrico Katsuyama. As they’re talking, a smuggler DropShip (the same one that Cassie discovered had smuggled Clanners to Hachiman) turns up on the news. It’s had a surprise failure and fallen out of the sky on takeoff, killing all hands onboard. The ISF is mystified by this but Ninyu doesn’t care, considering it a distraction. I WONDER WHO COULD HAVE DONE IT (it was Chandrasekhar Kurita). Chapter 27 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 17 October 3056 Chandrasekhar Kurita has called Cassie to another meeting. He’s curious what she thinks and she’s certain that Ninyu Kerai is going to make another attempt. Cassie wants to seize the initiative,  Cassie asks about the destruction of the smuggler DropShip, Chandrasekhar says he has his best people on [covering] it [up]. He thinks the Clanners are a less immediate risk than Ninyu Kerai. Chandrasekhar has a plan and he wants Cassie in on it. Cassie doesn’t know what to do at this point, but Uncle Chandy wants to prove their innocence to the ISF by showing the ISF the “real” culprit. I mean, the real culprit. Uncle Chandy claims that he thinks it’s Tanadi, his competitors. Cassie does not buy this but lets him convince her. Cassie wonders if he has actual evidence, which he doesn’t. So he wants Cassie to infiltrate Tanadi. Unfortunately, Tanadi’s CEO is out of reach, but Chandi has a different infiltration target in mind. While Chandrasekhar is revealing his plan off-camera, the Caballeros are having a meeting. Bobby “Navajo Wolf” Begay immediately questions whether Don Carlos is still fit to command. Gabby is behind it, but pretends he isn’t. He thinks he’s being sly but he’s really bad at it. Gabby immediately shows he’s not fit to lead by figuratively tripping and falling on his face when he accuses an older Caballero of being a coward for declaring he will retire alongside Don Carlos. Things are mostly calmed down when Lt. Colonel Marisol Cabrera voices her support for Don Carlos stepping down. Don Carlos immediately relieves her of duty. Kali calms things down by shooting her laser pistol into the ceiling and reminding everyone that they’re surrounded by Snakes and have no pick-up, so it’s work together and win together or die. Talk of Don Carlos retiring is tabled for the time being. Archie meets up with Kali after, and reveals his uncle is the head of MI4. So he got the job on Nepotism even though he’s utter poo poo at being a spy. He apologizes for accusing the Caballeros of deceiving him when he was really upset by his failure to deceive them. Chapter 28 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 21 October 3056 Uncle Chandy is having a party and has invited Duke Percival Fillington III, Earl of Hachiman to attend. His butler Yoritomo is with him. Percy is infatuated with Chandrasekhar’s newest “play pretty” (Cassie).  Cassie is 5’4” tall, we learn this because Percy is apparently really, really good at estimating peoples’ exact heights. Chandy is ignoring her, and Percy is impressed that for once he is showing a classic Kurita virtue (misogyny). Percy imagines himself as a knight in shining armor (not a Samurai) rescuing Cassie from the clutches of Chandrasekhar Kurita. Percy is a “dangerous romantic” in his own words. Cassie flirts with Percy, and reveals her name is “Jasmine.” He has to remind himself not to fall for her because “she’s only a woman.” Cowboy and a Caballero we haven’t met yet named “Man Mountain” arrive to “escort” “Jasmine” back to Chandrasekhar. They’re both playing the part of simpletons.  Yoritomo sneaks up on Percy (because he’s an rear end in a top hat) and Percy laments that there are some things even he can’t have. As they leave the party via helicopter. Jasmine bursts from the complex and begs for asylum since Chandrasekhar Kurita has “gone insane.” Yoritomo gives great loving advice considering, telling Percy not to get involved because Chandrasekhar “is a Kurita.” “Jasmine” steals the pistol from one of Percy’s guards and shoots Man Mountain in the chest. Cowboy punches her in the face, and Percy steps in and whisks her to safety. Exfiltration complete. As they leave, Cassie is already planning to break Cowboy’s nose again. Lt. JG Earl Willie “Man Mountain” Carter is fine, he was wearing body armor and had squib bags under his jacket. He’s a Locust pilot (which is funny as hell) and studied to be a French Chef on New Avalon. He laments that if it had been anyone else, he probably wouldn’t have let himself get shot. He trusted Cassie enough not to shoot him in the face. Cowboy laments that Cassie took his best punch and didn’t even go down. Cowboy.
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Chapter 29 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 30 October 3056 Cassie’s nightmares are back, which she hadn’t expected. It’s not a great time for them, since she’s undercover at Percy’s. She doesn’t have Blood Drinker and she can’t practice martial arts here, so her only emotional outlet (violence) isn’t an option available to her. She blames Kali for this, but knows it isn’t Kali’s fault. She’s feeling off-kilter because the part of her that isn’t a sociopath actually likes Percy, even though he’s a mark. He’s genuinely kind, even though he acted entirely out of boner-induced chivalry. Percy asks about her and she spins a tale of working to pay for her brother’s electrical engineering classes since her father died and her mother very ill. Percy vows to help her imaginary family.  Through subtle manipulations, she pressures Percy to friend-zone her for the time being, which is pretty fantastic. Percy leaves, and Cassie feels shame at manipulating an enemy and a mark who is actually a genuinely good person.  Chapter 30 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 30 October 3056 Cassie and Percy go horseback riding. They’re having fun, but Ninyu Kerai arrives via helicopter. Fortunately, Ninyu Kerai is a monk and cares nothing for women, so he pays Cassie no mind. He does question whether she’s a spy and demands her questioned, but Percy won’t have it, deflecting Ninyu Kerai by suggesting she can’t learn anything useful to him. He knows he’s a twit and actually uses it to his advantage. Ninyu accedes to this, the ISF will be striking on October 31st so anything Cassie learns is of no consequence. To celebrate, Percy takes Cassie to Tanadi Towers to meet with its owner, Marquis Redmond Hosoya. They sell “Jasmine”s brother to Tanadi, and she plants a secret camera under a chair. Cassie hopes Percy’s not ‘in’ on whatever Hosoya is up to, then wonders how a camera with no audio will know if treason is being discussed. Cassie does not yet understand what she’s actually doing here. Shadowrun successful! Chapter 31 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 30 October 3056 Percy is very distracted when they return to his castle, so Cassie knows something’s going down as soon as immediately. The news is showing the Caballeros as belligerent idiots (they are, for the most part  ), and the sociopath in her thinks Percy is responsible. She knows it’s actually Ninyu Kerai’s doing though. She suspects Yoritomo, Percy’s butler, is one of the Mirza’s plants.Cassie’s paranoia gets the better of her, she’s certain she will be discovered any second and in her nervousness she blunders into Yoritomo who isn’t the Mirza’s plant. He threatens to kill her but fortunately the 17th Recon’s rescue team shoots him dead. They’re wearing Wobbie uniforms because gently caress the Wobbies. They leave some dead recently-murdered Wobbies behind as proof. Cassie asks Uncle Chandy if the bug she planted will have time to do any good, Chandrasekhar suggests it’s all in god’s hands.  Cassie knows!  … but she doesn’t. Not really.Chapter 32 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 1 November 3056 el Dia de los Muertos. A helicopter tries to fly over the HTE compound’s walls and the Caballeros shoot it down after broadcasting several warnings. The news claim the 17th Recon Regiment has gone mad in a pay dispute and is holding Chandrasekhar Kurita hostage. Chandrasekhar immediately orders all non-security workmen sent home as this time he expects the attack will be a BattleMech fight with the 9th Ghost Regiment. Lainie is ordered to attack. She doesn’t believe it but it is her duty to comply anyway. The Ghosts actually can’t win this, statistically, the 17th Recon Regiment has them outnumbered. But the Ghosts have better technology and are generally better shots, which leaves things more even than Lainie likes. Especially since the 17th has Artillery and the Ghosts do not. The Oyabun demands to see Lainie before the battle begins. Chapter 33 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 1 November 3056 Cassie and Scout Platoon are called away from preparing for the main fight. The bug Cassie planted has already  The Chairman of Tanadi has been consorting with Kali catches up with Cassie who has been avoiding her again. Cassie blames Kali for almost dying at Percy’s, even though it’s thanks to Kali’s influence that Percy’s life has been spared.  This is what Cassie’s story is all about. This novel isn’t about her, but this is her struggle and it’s not going to be resolved fully in one book. Anyway, Lainie’s Oyabun demands she chop off her little finger, because injuring a subordinate immediately before a battle is a great loving idea. Lainie does what’s required of her and tells Sumiyama to keep her little finger in dry ice because she’s coming back for it when this is all over.  Cassie has an emotional breakdown in her quarters after the confrontation with Kali, but actually feels a little better after—and not just because she’s about to get to murder a metric fuckton of ninjas. Chapter 34 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 2 November 3056 The Ghosts march on HTE. Lainie calls on the 17th to surrender, but can’t guarantee they will be treated honorably. Cassie leaves right as the Ghosts begin their attack. Cassie has a one-on-one with Don Carlos who gives her a hug because she was his daughter’s friend and he’s pretty sure one or both of them is going to die. And now we come to the real crux of the novel, the whole foundation upon which the 17th’s troubles are built, and the reason Cassie’s in this mess to begin with.  Cassie at the start of the novel wouldn’t have called Don Carlos on this. She would have held her tongue and worried. Cassie calls Don Carlos on this, reminding him bluntly that Patsy made her own choices. Don Carlos wanted his son to be the best, and never gave his daughter any praise for her excellence. He thought she killed herself in a last-ditch effort to please him. Cassie demands that Don Carlos let go of the blame and live for Cassie and 15 volunteers begin their infiltration of the ISF tower. Victor Milan is a pretty good action writer, but his BattleMech combat is fairly lacking. I may gloss some things over since the combat is relatively unimportant. A BattleMaster eats an Arrow IV and dies. Arrow IVs will consistently be inordinately powerful in this trilogy, but most `Mechs will be going down in only a few documented hits so it’s fine. Lainie can’t retaliate because the closest the Ghosts have to Artillery is a pair of Stalkers and her own Mauler. Chapter 35 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 2 November 3056 Ninyu Kerai watches from the penthouse of the Coordinator’s Rest Hotel. He’s irritated that he can’t lead the battle directly but his father’s orders are clear. Raven in her Raven is on the run from a Ghost pursuit lance. A Locust, and Jenner, and two Whitworths are hunting her. She lures them into Macho’s BattleMaster and then hides. Lainie eats a PPC hit and kills a 17th Recon Quickdraw. The 17th commits to hit and run attacks to delay the Ghosts and whittle them down. A ghost in a Panther tries to jump Kali’s Atlas from behind but gets grabbed by a BattleMaster and punched to death. Kali is fighting her first battle as an actual company commander, her company takes 5 Ghosts but loses 2 in the process. She does not know how to deal with this yet. A Hatchetman kills a Ghost Locust, Lainie sends No-Name to stop it with his Grand Dragon. The Hatchetman advances like a classic Kurita, relentlessly with no worry of its own safety.  No-Name’s real name is never revealed, but Lainie calls him Samurai at the end.  Cassie’s scout platoon takes a stray laser hit meant for Rebel Perez’s Awesome, and two of them dies instantly before they ever see the ISF. Rebel Perez, Cowboy’s former 3rd friend, dies fighting the Ghosts. Cowboy is upset, but Buck keeps him from suiciding in. Cowboy had 4 friends for a while, but now he’s down to three again. Balance has been returned to the universe. Cassie sorely wants to get in and take out a Ghost BattleMech, but she has a job to do and she chooses to do it rather than giving in to her urge to commit violence. Cassie reminds most of Scout Platoon that following her will get most of them killed, and if they want out now’s the time. There are no takers, but Cassie is wrong. Following her will kill all of them. This is a running trend. Gabby is upset. He’s out of ammo, lost his weapons, and one arm has been blown off. That’s not why he’s upset, and for once he realizes it: he’s ashamed of his failures and more ashamed that he betrayed his own father. He wants to reconcile but he does not know how. He radios his situation in and gets ordered out of the fight. In a moment of maturity he turns command over to Kali and withdraws as ordered. Gabby has grown as a human being. A little. Chapter 36 Masamori, Hachiman Galedon District, Draconis Combine 2 November 3056 The 9th Ghosts send a company on a flanking attack via the river. The River is too swift to be easy to navigate except when the tide turns to counter its outflow, and Lainie has not devoted a heavy force to the attack. But she has devoted a mobile one. Annie Sue Hurd in her Rifleman engages a heavy lance by herself. She’s too slow to withdraw but tries to put down an enemy JagerMech before she dies. Lainie almost eats an Arrow IV, but one of her Ghosts jumps in the way and dies in her place, which is why the Bodyguard pilot skill / optional rule exists in Tabletop BattleTech. Buntaro Mayne’s Phoenix Hawk has lost its arm. Lainie sends him and three light `Mechs to chase and kill Raven’s Raven. Annie Sue Hurd dies fighting the heavy lance. Raven leads the Ghosts into a parking garage, her Raven is small enough to fit under the deck. Kali has asked Zuma to sing a song to inspire 1st Battalion. Zuma wants to sing Patsy’s song but won’t without Don Carlos’s permission. Carlos rejects the request. Already Cassie’s passionate entreaty is fading from his mind. She isn’t his daughter, after all.  The parking garage Raven is in is one of Uncle Chandy’s. When she lures an enemy Jenner into position she blows a charge and drops a floor on it. She almost escapes but Buntaro Mayne takes out the Raven’s hip. Kali has the bulk of her command back to base, but Bobby the Wolf is out headhunting and Cowboy engages Buntaro’s Phoenix Hawk with his wasp. They get into a punching fight rather than using guns, because they’re both idiots. They take each other out and crash into the Sagebrush, so they head in to have a drink since they’re both out of the fight. Gabby commandeers a Scorpion, and leads a group of `Mechs on a flanking attack through the tunnels. Only short `Mechs can make it through, so the Scorpion is the biggest `Mech that can fit. He has stepped out of his [sister’s] Shadow [Hawk]. He’s still not mature, but he’s more experienced than the lieutenant who was going to be leading the flanking attack. We’re 90% through, so we’ll be finishing up in one or two more updates.
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jng2058 posted:Player: Jagermonster The OpFor vote is not a secret vote for Technician Robert.
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Voting's still open, don't let my enthusiasm for bad fiction kill things. 
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I don't think the story interludes killed the voting. It just seems like a vote where people were very quickly and decisively able to identify which option they'd find most enjoyable personally. Whereas a lot of the prior votes had obvious strategic or tactical implications, or the potential to take us to different parts of space, this one is very much just "Which characters do you want to see?" without much geopolitical stuff to banter about. So most of us voted very quickly on our gut instincts.
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Any kind-soul who kept track of the voting thus far?PoptartsNinja posted:Voting's still open, don't let my enthusiasm for bad fiction kill things. I think I can speak for most of us when I say that your 'Let's Read' is far more entertaining than the actual source material.
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Voting A for maximum carnage.
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CourValant posted:Any kind-soul who kept track of the voting thus far? C is 14 votes ahead by my count.
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Defiance Industries posted:C is 14 votes ahead by my count. Then it's safe to vote for A
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C Go the underdogs, A sounds fun for glorious combat but C is more intriguing and you probably get to kill some clanners.
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terrenblade posted:Then it's safe to vote for A Welp, we're back at 14 soooo
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A I want to see a last stand.
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I am so conflicted. I dearly want to see the last stand of the Hell's Horses. But Korean Robert and the liberation of Luthien is too good to pass up. C
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Any chump can win, but losing is what clanners do best. A Let's show these spheroids how losing is done.
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Player MVP: Jaegermom. Player Honorable Mention : Mauler. OpFor MVP: Glass Spider. OpFor Honorable Mention: Summoner. A
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We've played Clanners on Luthien, already. We've just played Davion-Kurita offworlders. What we haven't played, so you know, new poo poo is Luthien Native Sons Kicking rear end, Taking Names, Being Awesome. Voting for Korean Robert's not a vote for the past and nostalgia; it's a vote for the Future and making your own fate.
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These arguments are becoming more and more convincing (I've already voted, and, its great to see the passion going into these discussions).hooman posted:Let's show these spheroids how losing is done. Can't argue with that logic.  Cascade Jones posted:. . . is Luthien Native Sons Kicking rear end, Taking Names, Being Awesome. Sons of Luthien? Or, Sons of the Coordinator? Think Sons of Coordinator sounds grander (its also probably an executable offense to imply you're a Kurita when you're not?)
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CourValant posted:These arguments are becoming more and more convincing (I've already voted, and, its great to see the passion going into these discussions). Luthien is the black pearl, Korean Robert and his compatriots have shown they have the heart of a dragon. Clearly, they're Black Dragons. ....What?
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VOTE A FOR GLORIOUS LAST STANDS!!! No other option is as appropriate a , especially with the florida-pocalypse approaching irl!
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Jew it to it! posted:Luthien is the black pearl, Korean Robert and his compatriots have shown they have the heart of a dragon. Clearly, they're Black Dragons. Do you want your entire family executed? Because that's how you get your entire family executed. Gwaihir posted:No other option is as appropriate a How can you tell Florida before or after the apocalypse? Its already a fetid swamp fill land, punctuated with the occasional parking lot and crime scene. Seriously though, for any Goons out in Florida, stock up on those supplies (the good stuff too, Cup-A-Noodle Ramen! ), stay safe.
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C, Luthien's sons rise!
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A Let's see how well of a last stand people can make.
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Hard decisions. But I guess it doesn't matter too much, A then.
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PoptartsNinja posted:“I am curious,” the fat Buddha asked over a cup of tea. “How many more are you?” C) Join a Resistance unit I realllly want to see if Korean robert was savvy enough to white lie/bullshit Chandrasekhar. For a guy who hates the clans and is technically apt enough to do his job while leading a resistance team, I want to get a look at what other slick moves Korean Robert has up his clantech sleeves. Twice the drama for half the politics?
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