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Yeah it's a cute detail that Sun Zhang Academy is actually in the Draconis Combine rather than the Confederation, though frankly it'd be even neater if it were in a non-asian IS state entirely. You know, just for contrast, like how Actual Space Japan is actually in the LC and they all think the DC is a buncha weirdoes.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Spriting continues! I'm really sorry this is taking so long, I've got a lot to do. We're almost there. Stop apologizing dude, we're all behind you 100%  Actually, wish there were things I can do to help, except I'm not handy with the 'spriting'. PoptartsNinja posted:Roughnecks, 3rd Crucis Lancers, Valten Ryder, 2nd Amphigean Light Assault, Sun Zhang Cadre, 16th Legion of Vega How's that now? Isn't that pretty much the entire DCMS roster of who's who, minus the Sword of Light? PoptartsNinja posted:This map also features one of my favorite Inner Sphere `Mechs, the Bandersnatch. Heck yeah! Its got some of my favorite fluff, that it being an affordable 'mech for mercs. Zaodai posted:. . . I didn't know about the Sun Zhang Academy until I looked it up. I always confuse Sun Zhang and Xin Sheng.
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CourValant posted:How's that now? Isn't that pretty much the entire DCMS roster of who's who, minus the Sword of Light? They're missing the Arkab Legions, too. And the District Regulars but I assume you intentionally excluded them.
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Defiance Industries posted:They're missing the Arkab Legions, too. And the District Regulars but I assume you intentionally excluded them. Kinda sorta? Arkab Legions are small enough that I consider them to be 'District Regulars', and besides, aren't they semi-autonomous, don't get involved with the rest of the Combine, type troops? As for the District Regulars, I'd imagine them having their hands full with the rest of the war on THEIR HOME PLANETS!
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CourValant posted:Kinda sorta? The Arkab Legions have a limited degree of autonomy but they're definitely a somebody.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:48
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Xarbala posted:, like how Actual Space Japan is actually in the LC and they all think the DC is a buncha weirdoes.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Wait, what? New Kyoto. Japanese expats, dangerous monsters, largest Buddha in the Inner Sphere.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Wait, what? I think he means MY HOME PLANET. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/New_Kyoto Cascade Jones posted:New Kyoto. Japanese expats, dangerous monsters, largest Buddha in the Inner Sphere. 
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Sep 16, 2017 04:15
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Defiance Industries posted:The Arkab Legions have a limited degree of autonomy but they're definitely a somebody. Aren't they generally badly supplied due to not being "Japanese" enough? The only reason they remained autonomous is because of some virus that struck down anyone not born on their planets. In this timeline, is Teddy-the-K a liberal reformer?
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painedforever posted:Aren't they generally badly supplied due to not being "Japanese" enough? The only reason they remained autonomous is because of some virus that struck down anyone not born on their planets. In this timeline Teddy hasn't really had a chance to establish himself politically. What with his nation ceasing to exist when he was 35 and all. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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painedforever posted:Aren't they generally badly supplied due to not being "Japanese" enough? The only reason they remained autonomous is because of some virus that struck down anyone not born on their planets. They're seen as disloyal, or on the verge of always being disloyal. Whenever the Akrab Legions are under supplied they remove the Dragon crest from their 'Mechs until supplies are forthcoming. This does nothing to change the Combine's opinion of their loyalty.
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Cascade Jones posted:. . . henever the Akrab Legions are under supplied they remove the Dragon crest from their 'Mechs until supplies are forthcoming. Really? That's quite forward thinking of them; do they also refuse to stand during the National Anthem?
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Cascade Jones posted:New Kyoto. Japanese expats, dangerous monsters, largest Buddha in the Inner Sphere. To elaborate on this, the Combine being "Japanese" is something that was forced on most of its residents at gunpoint, whereas New Kyoto is a colony settled predominantly by people from Japan. The Draconis Combine is basically a big Japan-themed amusement park for the Kurita family. Cascade Jones posted:They're seen as disloyal, or on the verge of always being disloyal. Whenever the Akrab Legions are under supplied they remove the Dragon crest from their 'Mechs until supplies are forthcoming. If they were shittier troops they probably couldn't get away with this, but they're usually pretty good, so it works out for them.
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So most of the Combine is going to go the way of the Draconis March and become loyal to New Avalon?
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RA Rx posted:So most of the Combine is going to go the way of the Draconis March and become loyal to New Avalon? Well, its the combined realm of the Draconis Suns now, so, kinda sorta? They're 'supposed' to be loyal to the Coordinator Prince, ruler of the new House.
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RA Rx posted:So most of the Combine is going to go the way of the Draconis March and become loyal to New Avalon? The Draconis March isn't named that because it's made up of worlds they took from the Combine. It got its name because that's the enemy it borders. Like all aspects of FS life, their entire state is organized along military lines, at the service of the military. In fact, if you look at the 2575 map, the Draconis March has been steadily shrinking, rather than taking Combine worlds that switch their allegiance* to New Avalon. *Most border worlds have no strong allegiance at all, and this would be doubly true along the Combine-FedSuns border where your options are "Japanese feudal peasant" and "Illiterate dirt farmer"
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Defiance Industries posted:The Draconis March isn't named that because it's made up of worlds they took from the Combine. It got its name because that's the enemy it borders. Like all aspects of FS life, their entire state is organized along military lines, at the service of the military. Yup. To reiterate def's point, the Draconis March is the march that defends the FS against the Draconis Combine, much like how the Capellan March is New Avalon's defensive line against the Capellan Confederation. It's only a few degrees away from calling these ducal territories the northern and western front, respectively.
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Well, the Capellan March is more of an offensive line until the 3140s when the entire FS is collapsing inward from both sides. The CapCon is basically half as thick by 3025 as it was in the Star League. As the uprisings in the 3050s and 3060s show, the people largely never became loyal. Turns out displacing the state that provides public services and replacing health care, schools and so on with someone yelling "you're free now!" doesn't encourage loyalty.
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Against the Cappies it was usually a preemptive defense. For democracy.
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dis astranagant posted:In this timeline Teddy hasn't really had a chance to establish himself politically. What with his nation ceasing to exist when he was 35 and all. Yeah, I really should go through the thread at some point. 2000 pages isn't really that bad, it just looks daunting. Something to think about next time I get banned in the Ace Combat thread. Maybe I can also figure out if I can join up as a MechWarrior here...
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painedforever posted:Yeah, I really should go through the thread at some point. 2000 pages isn't really that bad, it just looks daunting. yep, just ask and you can go on the list.
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painedforever posted:Yeah, I really should go through the thread at some point. 2000 pages isn't really that bad, it just looks daunting. Stop dancing with the angels over there then, and you won't have to pay the angel tax anymore. Still, this thread is a good read, albeit one that will take quite a bit of time even if you're only reading the updates proper. But if you do that, you miss out on so much thread banter and fan stuff, which is one of the high points of reading this monster. The sooner you start, the sooner you finish though, so get on that when you get the chance.
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Defiance Industries posted:Well, the Capellan March is more of an offensive line until the 3140s when the entire FS is collapsing inward from both sides. The CapCon is basically half as thick by 3025 as it was in the Star League. While this is true, the Free Worlds League does the same thing.  The League is the only nation on the left half of the map that actually grows in size. Edit: I mean, it's a "big fish in a small pond" situation for sure, the Lyran military was a complete joke until Katrina Steiner took over, and beating on the Capellans is just a thing that happens, but nearly every FWL gain was a "local Duchy decides to conquer the neighbors" situation. I sorta wonder how things might've been different if the League had bordered the Draconis Combine anywhere. Swap it and the Lyrans, swap the Federated Suns and the Capellan Confederation, let the Kurita war machine turn the League into some hard-rear end motherfuckers while the Federated Commonwealth gets to do the thing they're best at ( The League/Combine border would be a brutal foreverwar while the Confed/Combine border would look peaceful on the surface because every few months every staging area for a troop build up on either side of the border would "accidentally" explode. Hm, I might've missed a trick five years ago by not shuffling the deck. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:While this is true, the Free Worlds League does the same thing. There's always that other AU idea you've been teasing us with where the Star League never exists. You could always shuffle the nations around there.
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I think the Cappies being paranoid about everything is fairly justified, given that everybody strolls around periodically to stomp them back into the dirt. It's really a miracle that they never got erased from the map entirely by their neighbors.
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Zaodai posted:I think the Cappies being paranoid about everything is fairly justified, given that everybody strolls around periodically to stomp them back into the dirt. It's really a miracle that they never got erased from the map entirely by their neighbors. They were going to, then the writers created Rasalhague instead
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Defiance Industries posted:They were going to, then the writers created Rasalhague instead
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Poor, poor Rasalhague. Took them how long to gain their independence and then they get wrecked. It worked out for them in the end, they got to chill with the Ghost Bears.
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PoptartsNinja posted:While this is true, the Free Worlds League does the same thing. Even if the only change is just Davion and Laio switching places - dropping the Suns to about a hundred worlds while making the Cappies a juggernaut - then all the dramatic tension gets returned to the 4th Succession War. Now I wanna swap the map around and do a campaign using Interstellar Ops and BattleForce/Alpha Strike. Hmmm.
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You don't need to swap the nations so much as the temperaments.
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“You’re sure you can get us in?” Brevet Lieutenant Korean Robert prodded the earth with a stick. A rough map of Luthien had been scratched into the dry soil, with vague lines representing the city’s various districts. He scratched a line out of the city, roughly suggesting a course through the assorted stones that represented Clan formations. “Yes,” Robert tapped the dirt to accentuate his claim. “It behooved the ISF to look the other way and let the Yamaguchi-gumi build egress tunnels for their BattleMechs. The local Yakuza are as staunchly pro-Kurita as they come, so permitting the Oyabun to cycle a lance of bodyguards in and out of Luthien without drawing public attention was in everyone’s best interests. My contact in the Imperial City resistance says we should be able to get one, or maybe even two lances through the tunnel before we create a big enough magnetic field for Clan sensors to detect.” “And what do you hope to do with one or two lances?” Lt. Geoffrey Van Dijk’s strongly-accented English wasn’t unpleasant. It was cautious interest that moved the officer from the 3rd Crucis Lancers, not sarcastic skepticism. Field-commissioned Lieutenant or no, Korean Robert was an unknown element. It had only made sense to assign the resistance a liaison. “There’s an enemy command post here,” Robert said with unwavering certainty, stabbing the end of his stick into the Paschal district. It was the nearest to the Waseda Hills, where the bulk of the Clan defenses were stationed. Neither side had proven willing to commit to a pitched battle in the Imperial City itself, but the Clan formations were too well organized and too swift to respond to probing attacks for anyone’s comfort. “The Sanyu tower is the highest point in the Paschal district, in the north of Imperial City. The Clans have undoubtedly set up an observation post there, and must have a command unit somewhere nearby directing the battle.” Geoffrey rubbed his van dyke beard, and Robert thought it was fortunate the man had been born with black hair: had it been a richer shade of brown, such a goatee would have been less striking against the man’s extremely dark skin. As it was, the beard’s sharp precision leant the young officer a little extra dignity and undoubtedly saved him from the dreaded “baby face” call sign. “The local commander is too well-informed, I think you’re onto something. He or she has to be getting their information moments after the scouts do—but they could very easily set up a land-line feed to anywhere in the city. What if they’re not there?” Robert shrugged, “Then we take out some scouts and maybe render the tower a less-than-ideal spotting position. At the very least, we shall leave the Clans worried that we can infiltrate units into the city on whim. They will not fight as effectively if they’re constantly looking over their shoulders, qui— I mean, right?” “I like it,” Geoffrey nodded. “It’s simple, but sometimes simple works best. We’ll have to get approval for the op, but I should be able to convince someone to hear you out. I’d like to bring a lance of fast-movers with us to run down enemy scouts, preferably a Kurita one that’s been on the ground in Imperial City before. And we’ll need a little more ECM support. You said eight’s pushing it, so much as I hate to say it: we’re probably going to have to leave two of your Roughnecks behind. A full lance of scout hunters, you, Saiko?—you know who I mean: the crazy one who refit her Roughneck with an energy loadout in three days—myself, and a merc or a volunteer with ECM who doesn’t mind that this might be a suicide op. We can make this work, and if it throws the enemy command into confusion for a day or even an hour it’s probably worth the risk. Especially,” he tapped his teeth with the tip of his index finger, “if we can time a big attack on Clan forces to strike around the same time we do.” “Talk to who you need to,” Robert kicked the rocks representing the Clan defensive formation away from the outline of Imperial City. “I’ll send word to my contact in the Yamaguchi-gumi, they may be able to move some supplementary forces into position to assist us. The Clans have the city on lockdown, but we have already seen: they pay less attention to “construction equipment” than they should.” The Map  Roughnecks and Mercenaries  Scout Lance, 7th Company, 2nd Amphigean Light Assault  Yamaguchi-Gumi  Primary Objectives - Find and Destroy enemy command post (0/1) - Evade or Destroy enemy scouts (0/1) Secondary Objectives - Destroy alerted enemies before they can call for assistance (0/?) Expected Resistance - At least one Company of Clan Hell’s Horses BattleMechs or Vehicles - Expect additional reinforcements if the company is detected Special Rules  Half-Blind – The position of nearby enemy forces not in line of sight are marked by blips. The identity of these units are unknown. Enemy units with active probes are detectable at greater distances. The OpForce is unaware of the player presence and is proceeding along pre-set patrol paths. After entering Line of Sight with an enemy patrol unit the players have two additional turns (three turns total) to eliminate it before it alerts the rest of the OpForce. Enemy Star Commanders will alert the OpForce more quickly.Pilot List Hedningen Strobe mercenarynuker Jade Star Capskye W.T. Fits Mary Annette A good poster Octatonic Raverrn Alternates paragon1 Defiance Industries Keru anakha PTN’s note: Apologies once again for the delays. I'm still finishing up the OpForce sprites, but we're almost ready! 
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OH poo poo. We made the loop.
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oh man. i dont wanna repeat the indignity of losing my primary weapon by getting shot in the back again, but on the other hand rear mounted inferno
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That Sentinel pilot has a hell of a name. I bet he hates his parents.
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I'm just glad that we have yet another Somerset Strikers pilot ref. The sad thing with this joke is that you run out of names pretty fast, but still.
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Octatonic posted:oh man. i dont wanna repeat the indignity of losing my primary weapon by getting shot in the back again, but on the other hand rear mounted inferno It's now your duty to put your back to the objective, and poo poo fire on the command post while valiantly fighting off clanners. Just to let them know what you really think. ... that centurion field refit with the medium. Did the techs goof and put it in backwards?
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So are we listed in order of who's in what 'Mech? If that's the case, it looks like I have the Roughneck that looks suspiciously like a Warhammer that shrunk in the wash. I am okay with this. Do we know where we're entering the map yet?
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TheParadigm posted:... that centurion field refit with the medium. Did the techs goof and put it in backwards? Nope, the Centurion's pretty much always had a rear-firing laser. PGI faced it forward, same as they did with the Atlas's rear end lasers.
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PoptartsNinja posted:the Atlas's rear end lasers. The Atlas Asslas, as it were.
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