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PoptartsNinja posted:The Charger was designed by people who thought an 80-ton scout 'Mech was a good idea. So, Lyrans?
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Charger was designed by people who thought an 80-ton scout 'Mech was a good idea. The original Charger's engine was something like 60% of its mass. Oh, it's on now. Or are you implying that the F-35 will be vastly improved after they add bits of metal to its outside to make it look like a giant kabuto helmet?
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Nov 8, 2017 05:22
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Hey at least the Charger doesn't try to suffocate it's pilots.
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Players may be overestimating how willing experienced Clanners are to charge into gently caress City.painedforever posted:Or are you implying that the F-35 will be vastly improved after they add bits of metal to its outside to make it look like a giant kabuto helmet? I am.
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DatonKallandor posted:Hey at least the Charger doesn't try to suffocate it's pilots. wrong plane - or more precisely, wrong target. OBOGS is a standard system installed on at least half a dozen planes I know of, which probably means a dozen more I don't, and it's causing problems in all of them. it's hosed up and hypoxia is no joke, that's for sure Psion fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Nov 8, 2017 19:05
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PoptartsNinja posted:I am. ... huh. Well, I'd buy that for a dollar. Does the Hatamoto-Chi exist in this universe? I might have missed it. It's funny that none of the Hatamoto variants had melee weapons. The Dracs didn't make a melee 'Mech until well after the Clan invasion, the No-Dachi. All the big names seem to prefer the Grand Dragon though.
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painedforever posted:... huh. Well, I'd buy that for a dollar.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:If I remember correctly there was a Hatamoto-Chi in the mission prior to the current one. Yes there definitely was; 'Hata was my Lance Buddy!
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Nov 8, 2017 20:10
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PoptartsNinja posted:Players may be overestimating how willing experienced Clanners are to charge into gently caress City. Who gets into a Hunchback IIC with the intent to get back out of it?
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U want sum fuk m8
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Voyager I posted:Who gets into a Hunchback IIC with the intent to get back out of it? Ready and willing to die is not synonymous with suicidal.
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Nov 8, 2017 21:14
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PoptartsNinja posted:Ready and willing to die is not synonymous with suicidal. Oh, I was under the impression that anyone who chose one of those willingly (as opposed to being assigned on as a punitive measure) was in fact actively seeking death.
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Voyager I posted:Oh, I was under the impression that anyone who chose one of those willingly was in fact actively seeking a meaningful death. Fixed the misunderstanding.
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Unlike Machine Gun heavy walking coffins, UAC/20 Hunchie's are really good at messing up pretty much anything they can hit. It's like the primo viking option where you ensure you have an escort of your defeated/maimed enemies to usher you into the afterlife.
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Snake Pit 15 Valten Ryder drummed his fingertips on the Centurion’s command console as he rushed to catch up with the company’s more advanced forces. His Centurion, upgraded at the Federated Suns’ expense, had always been a reliable workhorse of a machine. He hadn’t been too upset to strip out the unreliable torso LRMs in favor of the double-barreled PPCs currently mounted in the right arm. Long range had never been the Centurion’s strong point, and the extra close-range punch was a nasty surprise for anyone expecting to walk right over him. He sneered downrange at the mottled brown Thunderbolt. The Clan version of the venerable SLDF design still hadn’t bothered to center the cockpit, but its boxy, workmanlike body suggested it alone boasted more armor than even Robert Korean’s Roughneck. He flipped it off, then mentally walked through the process of making the Centurion do the same. The Clan pilot’s transparent attempt to bait an attack wouldn’t succeed. The Thunderbolt’s arms swung downward, and all at once it resumed maneuvering. For a moment it looked like it was about to block a side street in an effort to funnel the company elsewhere—but then it turned its back on the Yakuza in the ancient Von Rohrs. “Don’t you do it, man,” Ryder broadcast, his communications laser flickering against the back of the Von Rohrs’ head. The Yakuza sounded incensed, “He’s askin’ for it! Turning his back on the Yamaguchi-gumi like we’re—!” “He’s playing you,” Ryder wanted to curse, but that was a surefire way to get the Yakuza to shoot. He wasn’t a gang member himself, but the young Mercenary had had more than one run-in with tatted-up goons. “He wants you to shoot him. Pity he doesn’t know the Yamaguchi gang’s too smart for a trick like that, eh?”    Shooting Phase Roughneck DSI (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 22! Roughneck 3A (Player) - No Line of Sight to primary target! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 36! Bandersnatch (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 20! Centurion (Player) - Charges PPC Capacitor! - Gains 7 heat, sinks 30! Mongoose (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 20! Hitman (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 20! Sentinel (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 20! Spider (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 23! Charger (Player) - Primary target chooses to establish Line of Sight! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Timberwolf D: (3 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 11, hit Center Torso (30/36 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Timberwolf D: (3 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Timberwolf D: (3 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 11, hit Right Torso (19/25 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Pulse Laser at Timberwolf D: (3 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement - 2 pulse laser = 7): rolled 3, miss! - Gains 18 heat, sinks 24! Quickdraw (Player) - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 36! Von Rohrs (Player) - No Line of Sight to target! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 32! Thunderbolt IIC - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 32! Timber Wolf D (ACE) - Fires ER PPC at Charger (2 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 5): rolled 7, hit Right Torso (9/24 armor remaining)! - Fires ER PPC at Charger (2 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 5): rolled 9, hit Left Torso (9/24 armor remaining)! - Gains 32 heat, sinks 30! Hunchback IIC - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 20! End Phase: Charger (Player) - Must pass a piloting test or fall (5 base + 1 massive damage = 6): rolled 7, succeeds!   Map Link Player Status:    Opposing Force Status:     Special Rules  - Enemy units are alert and aware of player positionsPrimary Objectives - Find and Destroy enemy commander (0/1) Secondary Objectives - Destroy Enemy BattleMechs (9/19 remaining) Orders Due: Midnight Saturday! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Nov 8, 2017 23:38
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Suddenly elementals  Quite the audience showing up.
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Nov 8, 2017 23:47
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Huh. Grier may actually be clever. There's a scary thought.
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I am strongly in favor of abiding by the terms of the duel 
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10 C-Bills that the Ponies are broadcasting this live on their local nets, and all Clanner forces on Luthien are standing down to witness this duel.
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vorebane posted:Huh. Grier may actually be clever. There's a scary thought. We've run in to Grier a few times before in the thread, and he is definitely not a dumb chump that will be baited in to making rash decisions, unlike some of the other clanners we've met over time. e: At the risk of stating the blisteringly obvious, anyone that runs around in to los of either the Timber Wolf or Hunchback alone is liable to get blown to pieces. They have the approaches narrow enough that you can't easily get a lot of mechs around them either for kicking or for making them split fire. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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EponymousMrYar posted:Suddenly elementals IIRC elementals engaging a mech do not violate their nerd rules. So watch the gently caress out fam.
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Quickdraw So - do we go after the Hunchback IIC now with the folks that can get LOS, or do we hold off another turn to let some of the heavies catch up?
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Just loving lol if Grier's plan also involves a bunch of other clan mechs just standing in your way and blocking your maneuvering "lol I'm not touching you" Also someone should definitely ask if those elementals are allowed to jam on you. What's the harm in checking?
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They're even mostly the flying elementals armed with drop bombs. Ha.
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Viva Miriya posted:IIRC elementals engaging a mech do not violate their nerd rules. So watch the gently caress out fam. Sure they do. A point of elementals is equivalent to a point of tanks or a point of mechs (which is one mech, but still.)
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BANDERSNATCH Hey PTN, just confirming that no one who can currently see a mech submitted spotting orders. I saw a Hold Fire for me, then no follow-up, so making sure.
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wiegieman posted:Sure they do. A point of elementals is equivalent to a point of tanks or a point of mechs (which is one mech, but still.) Yeah but I think it's some zellbriggen bullshit where infantry and armor don't really count for dueling purposes. So an Athena can engage you mid fight.
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mercenarynuker posted:BANDERSNATCH Only one player can see a 'Mech and the Charger did not submit spotting orders.
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Viva Miriya posted:Yeah but I think it's some zellbriggen bullshit where infantry and armor don't really count for dueling purposes. So an Athena can engage you mid fight. This is normally true even in a Clan not known for zealous use of combined arms. That said, we can't afford to accidentally break Schroedinger's Zellbrigen to find out. Obligatory reminder that either side can break Zellbrigen, and some of Grier's underlings might well reason that the glory of victory outweighs the shame of breaking Zellbrigen. Especially if Absorption is on the line.
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For one of them to do it directly in Grier's own sight would seem to be spectacularly unlikely, although there's a chance an isolated pilot might risk it if none of the other clanners could see him. (I doubt this will be the case, because PTN is not an rear end though).
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I guess my cowardly approach wasn't quite cowardly enough.PoptartsNinja posted:Only one player can see a 'Mech and the Charger did not submit spotting orders. poo poo, that's a thing I can do?
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A good poster posted:I guess my cowardly approach wasn't quite cowardly enough. Based on my near-complete non-knowledge of Battletech rules, I think anyone can spot. You have to declare it, and it adds a penalty to your shooting. Also, my indirect fire is based on my move mod, your move mod, and the target's move mod (I think). Certain things like TAG just make it a little easier and less stressful to have flights of explosives rain from the sky
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It is, but it's not something you want to do just to do it. Without TAG it puts a penalty on all of your shots, and unless you've set things up carefully between the spotting mech and the firing one, the two hit numbers are probably going to be 12+s anyhow.
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Viva Miriya posted:Yeah but I think it's some zellbriggen bullshit where infantry and armor don't really count for dueling purposes. So an Athena can engage you mid fight. Armor assets frequently don't, since they are generally used as second-line forces. Second-line forces don't give as much of a gently caress. But infantry definitely counts. However, if you're in a heavy or assault it's customary to challenge multiple points of infantry at once otherwise you look like a bitch.
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Incidentally, infantry forces make excellent spotters! (They cut out one of the movement modifiers from the to-hit calculation)
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The Thunderbolt IIC's from a second line galaxy.
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Thunderbolt IIC's from a second line galaxy. They're the Shoney's* of second line galaxies. *Shoney's is the Rolls Royce of restaurants
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Defiance Industries posted:They're the Shoney's* of second line galaxies. We never left the Shoney's, abort, abort!
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Gwaihir posted:We've run in to Grier a few times before in the thread, and he is definitely not a dumb chump that will be baited in to making rash decisions, unlike some of the other clanners we've met over time. A clanner challenging goons to a duel where he has terrain advantage and weaponry that can make the most of his positioning while the IS forces have to basically charge into his gun barrels? Why does this sound familiar. 
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