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Can somebody tell me what the logos on the map are? I mean I recognize the House Marik eagle and the Solaris VII emblem, but what are the other ones? They look kinda like terrible Armored Core mech logos or something. Kinda liking the snake one, though.
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Putting all my imaginary money on the Centurion. Always bet on a Liao (because they cheat)
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The Casualty posted:Can somebody tell me what the logos on the map are? I mean I recognize the House Marik eagle and the Solaris VII emblem, but what are the other ones? They look kinda like terrible Armored Core mech logos or something. Kinda liking the snake one, though. Btechverse companys, the one with a Q a C and an L going inwards is Quikscell for example.
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The Casualty posted:Can somebody tell me what the logos on the map are? I mean I recognize the House Marik eagle and the Solaris VII emblem, but what are the other ones? They look kinda like terrible Armored Core mech logos or something. Kinda liking the snake one, though. The one with KY is Kali Yama, a FWL 'mech manufacturer. Corean [Enterprises] is also a FWL 'mech manufacturer. Cal-Boeing is a FedSuns aircraft manufacturer. The logo with an apple in it is, I think, Apple-Churchill, an electronics manufacturer that I think is Capellan (since all the Raven's gear is made by them) but they're not listed in Handbook: House Liao as such. Edit: Don't recognize the tank or the snake ones off the top of my head though. BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Feb 17, 2012 |
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Feb 17, 2012 13:45
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BattleMaster posted:The logo with an apple in it is, I think, Apple-Churchill, an electronics manufacturer Apple Computers Interstellar, actually. BattleMaster posted:Edit: Don't recognize the tank or the snake ones off the top of my head though. The Snake is New Syrtis Shipyards (great corporate logo, you can see the planetary flag on the snake's head). The Tank with Ridley is Pesht Motors (which produces the Wolverine Battlemech, an assortment of civillian vehicles, and MAYBE a tank IF they feel like it). PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 17, 2012 |
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Feb 17, 2012 17:43
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A good chunk of them aren't specifically tied to any one nation at all. Corean produces huge numbers of mechs for House Davion in the Draconis March.
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Feb 17, 2012 20:09
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PoptartsNinja posted:Apple Computers Interstellar, actually. Oh huh, I didn't think they'd be that blatant about Apple still existing, I figured Apple-Churchill was meant to be the future-Apple Computers.
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Feb 17, 2012 21:21
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BattleMaster posted:Oh huh, I didn't think they'd be that blatant about Apple still existing, I figured Apple-Churchill was meant to be the future-Apple Computers. Sci-fi tends to make lots of references like that. Didn't Babylon 5 have a reference to Disney Planet? Besides what company is going to argue with plug if it isn't negative?
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BattleMaster posted:Oh huh, I didn't think they'd be that blatant about Apple still existing, I figured Apple-Churchill was meant to be the future-Apple Computers. They make the targeting and tracking gear for Marauders and Marauder IIs (and Locusts and Stingers). The iOs `Mechs. Also, their corporate homeworld is Macintosh. You can't tell me that's not something you could see Apple doing in the space future of the 80's. VVV There's also Boeing Interstellar (makes Dropships), and Harley-Davidson-Messerschmitt (makes motorcycles) And we can't forget the inventors of Space-80s fusion, General Motors. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Feb 17, 2012 |
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Trast posted:Sci-fi tends to make lots of references like that. Didn't Babylon 5 have a reference to Disney Planet? Besides what company is going to argue with plug if it isn't negative? I just figured there was some point where you got too close to infringing on a trademark. But I guess if the name isn't exactly the same and the logo is definitely not the same then there's no issue.
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Feb 17, 2012 21:29
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Mauser and Lockheed are both alive and well in the LyrCom, as well. Also, Ford built mechs for the SLDF.
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Feb 17, 2012 21:34
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PoptartsNinja posted:They make the targeting and tracking gear for Marauders and Marauder IIs (and Locusts and Stingers). The iOs `Mechs. Harley-Indian-Messerschmitt, manufactured on Atreus.
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Feb 17, 2012 21:52
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I've seen at least a few 'mechs with engines listed as Pontiac and Nissan as well. New thread title: Lets All Play Battletech and rewrite
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Champions of the Factory: Level 2code: This variant of the Thunderbolt would be considered a unique and exceptional mech in most cases, but if you compare it to the Guillotine, they are almost identical mechs. Still, there are a few differences that deserve to be discussed. Playing As: Take what I said about the Guillotine, but upgrade the ranged firepower a bit, remove one medium laser, and add a bit more armor. That is the 5SS in a nutshell. No jumpjets, but that probably won't be an issue in this map. Range brackets are a bit of an issue, as the PPC has the minimum range. On the other hand, anything inside range 3 allows you to use that Flamer effectively. Not a huge asset, but it is something, especially if you can do heat damage to a mech that is skirting +5 or +8. Playing Against: Again, heavily armored mech with a large amount of firepower at close range. Unlike the Guillotine, however, that PPC gives it a fairly formidable punch at range. Depending on the mech you are using, closing with the Thunderbolt might not be the worst idea. Even a +1 or +2 TH from being inside the PPC's minimum range could make a huge difference in this fight. Still, with simultaneous movement, it is a very tricky proposition. Guess wrong and you might end up fighting in the Thunderbolt's sweet spot where the superior durability will prove decisive. code: Now the MAD-3D Marauder might be the most interesting mech on the field. While the other mechs can either fall under the category of 'brawler' or 'sniper', the Marauder is unique in that it can handle both areas well, although not as well as the specialists. This gives the Marauder a lot of tactical flexibility, which could prove decisive. Playing As: A lot of your plans should revolve around the situation around you and the foe you are currently fighting. Do you stick at range and fire devastating volleys with the dual PPCs (occasionally switching out one for the large laser when you start overheating)? Or do you close and bring your large laser and paired medium lasers to bear? Another advantage up close is that the Marauder is the heaviest mech on the field, which means those melee attacks will be especially devastating. Like most Marauders, armor protection is a bit thin in the sides, but the 3D has the advantage over the other Marauders of not being plagued by exploditis. Unlike the other mechs, you do not have to worry about an ammo crit causing your chances to go up in smoke. Playing Against: Don't let the Marauder control the engagement! Figure out a way to fight the Marauder on your terms and you will prevail. The close ranged mechs can easily overwhelm it up close, while the fire-support mechs can match it at longer ranges. Specialists fighting in their specialty will almost always beat generalists. The leg armor is very thin on this mech, so a few lucky shots or kicks could completely hobble this mech and ruin its chance at victory.
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KnoxZone posted:Watch this thing as it stomps around and claims the first kill. We have two bets riding on "Warhawk" Boyington, and he will deliver. PPC, lasers, missiles and a flamer to add insult to the injury. Nothing under assault class is safe from this beast. Even then Boyington would deliver, but as it is it's just murder. Profitable murder. He's also my favorite one to beat the whole thing. That, of course, means that people are more likely to gang up on him just because he is the champion prospect, but I feel tonight it doesn't matter. Best swords are tempered in the hottest fires. Let me hear you say WAR! Let me hear you say HAWK! Let me hear you say it... BOYYYY-O!
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Is it just me or is the marauder the same loadout as the one that I piloted during the Rasalhague mission?
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Rumda posted:Is it just me or is the marauder the same loadout as the one that I piloted during the Rasalhague mission? Statistically, yes, it is. However, since I cannot find a canon 3K variant, I assume it's PTN's way of saying it was manufactured within DC space.
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Trast posted:Sci-fi tends to make lots of references like that. Didn't Babylon 5 have a reference to Disney Planet? The best example of this, for my money, is Alfred Bester's book The Stars My Destination. Corporations have transformed into a new aristocracy, with clans based around Ford and so on being the pillars of an incredibly puritanical and conservative society. Highly recommend that book for anyone who hasn't read it, incidentally.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Statistically, yes, it is. However, since I cannot find a canon 3K variant, I assume it's PTN's way of saying it was manufactured within DC space. Wouldn't be the first time. The original level 2 Victor is the -9K. There's a -9D built on St. Ives for sale to House Davion. It is completely identical to the -9K, except that it's a -9D so the Davions will use it.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Statistically, yes, it is. However, since I cannot find a canon 3K variant, I assume it's PTN's way of saying it was manufactured within DC space. Well then I have a new personal favourite from duel fronts, one of wanting the mech itself to do as well as it did for me, and secondly from a story perspective of wanting the inner sphere to do the seemingly impossible task of splintering and maybe merging forming a completely new political battlefield than canon, but at the same time surviving the clan invasion, to an extent at least. John Charity Spring posted:The best example of this, for my money, is Alfred Bester's book The Stars My Destination. Corporations have transformed into a new aristocracy, with clans based around Ford and so on being the pillars of an incredibly puritanical and conservative society. I need to get round to rereading it at some point.
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Defiance Industries posted:Mauser and Lockheed are both alive and well in the LyrCom, as well. Also, Ford built mechs for the SLDF.
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Wasn't really feeling this mission, but the fluff that PTN's written up for it makes it look really drat interesting. I especially like all the corporate logos at the bottom right of the map. Guess I'll wait and see how this one turns out.paragon1 posted:"Any customer can have an Atlas painted any color that he wants so long as it is black."
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Solaris matches are always my favorite, no matter the setting or venue. The commentary is probably going to be what I enjoy the most though.
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Welp, orders are in. I hope I didn't screw this whole Mechwarrioring thing up too bad. 
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anakha posted:Welp, orders are in. I hope I didn't screw this whole Mechwarrioring thing up too bad. Did you shoot a dude? If yes, you are doing it right. If no but you DFAed a dude, you are doing it very right.
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If you do TOO well, ROM might kidnap you anyway. So there's that.
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Orders are in. They are, if I may say so myself, daring and audacious.
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Defiance Industries posted:If you do TOO well, ROM might kidnap you anyway. So there's that. Do too poorly, and you'll get kidnapped by SAFE on accident when they mistake you for somebody better.
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SAFE's interrogation techniques are to put a bag over their captive's head and hit them whenever they say "No, YOU shut up!" It works better against domestic targets.
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Orders in. They are certainly daring and audacious(if you're a CPA.)
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SAFE is pleased to hear everyone talk about how ineffectual SAFE is. It means that Project Get Everyone To Underestimate Us is working. ...no, they didn't come up with that 'project' as a way to pretend that centuries of failure were 'just as planned.' No, they - no, YOU shut up!
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To be fair, SAFE isn't actually failure prone. They just tend to draw the wrong conclusions from the information they do recover.
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And remember! No matter how bad SAFE is, there are intelligence agencies in-universe that are worse than they are!
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Tempest_56 posted:And remember! No matter how bad SAFE is, there are intelligence agencies in-universe that are worse than they are! 19 of them, to be exact.
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Felime posted:19 of them, to be exact. Ah, the clans. You know, it's a good thing the clans had just enough technological superiority to be taken seriously. Imagine if they'd come back to the Inner Sphere with rusted old SLDF 'mechs and the Sphere powers had spent the last few centuries modernizing and stockpiling? They'd be a joke periphery power with an overly-large population and a laughable culture. I think that's part of why in the setting, in the decades after the clan invasion as they started fragmenting, normalizing, and what-not, the clans went from an existential threat to the Inner Sphere to being just one part of the world. In that vein, the Jade Falcon's run as a mobile mongol horde sort of state in the Dark Ages makes sense as an attempt to adapt to the new power balance in the universe.
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Factory Semi-Finals: Tactical Update 1 Combat Phase A Axman - Holds fire! - Generates 2 heat, sinks 15! B Guillotine - Holds fire! - Generates 1 heat, sinks 22! C Thunderbolt - Holds fire! - Generates 0 heat, sinks 21! D Marauder - Holds fire! - Generates 2 heat, sinks 20! E Centurion - Holds fire! - Generates 1 heat, sinks 16! F Catapult - Holds fire! - Generates 2 heat, sinks 20! “And that’s the buzzer,” Cal began in steady tones. “The `Mechs on the field have all gotten the green light and already it looks like Ngoc Binh is out for blood; he’s really hoping “Danh Khan Huu” will earn its name here. I must say I’m a bit surprised he’s the only one on an aggressive start. I’m wondering if Charles Boyington even got the starter signal. Is he asleep in his cockpit down there?” “It’s these first few minutes of a fight that really let you know who the pilots to watch in a match like this, Cal,” Duncan agreed. “I can’t blame the pilots for their caution, but caution only gets you so far. The Factory really lends itself to cat-and-mouse, and with a mouse like the Axman waiting in ambush, I don’t blame his closest opponents from keeping an eye out. In a match like this, that `Mech’s no hunter. In a one-on-one fight, I’d say Serge’s opponent would want to draw him into the open and pick him apart; but in a match like this holding tight is just waiting for a surprise visit from Binh and his Marauder, and believe me—that’s one surprise visit you don’t want to be on the receiving end of.” “Still,” Duncan continued unabated, “the only pilot on the field not fighting to keep a corporate sponsorship is Colonel Alvarez. You have to wonder how the sponsors will view a pilot who lingers in the back hoping to make a clean sweep.” “Speaking of sponsors,” Cal cut in with a hologenic grin, “Ammunition for this match was paid for by a generous donation by Defiance Industries: because if you weren’t willing to buy the best, you’d be buying from Quikscell.” Mission Objectives Be the Last Man Standing! Enemy Movement Modifiers: A AXM-1X Axman “Copper” - Odds: 3-5 - Green Team B GLT-4L Guillotine “The Fighting 18th” - Odds: 6-5 - Green Team C TDR-5SS Thunderbolt “Warhawk” - Odds: 6-5 – Gold Team D MAD-3D Marauder “Danh Khan Huu” - Odds: 1-1 – Gold Team E CN9-AL Centurion “Legionnaire” - Odds: 3-2 – Gold Team F CPLT-K2 Catapult “Kokuryuu” - Odds: 9-5 - Green Team   Overlord Stables (Steiner) AXM-1X Axman “Copper” Weight: 65 tons (Heavy) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 21/21 (15/15) LT R A(S): 6/6 CT A(S): 28/28 (21/21) CT R A(S): 6/6 RT A(S): 21/21 (15/15) RT R A(S): 6/6 LA A(S): 17/17 (10/10) RA A(S): 17/17 (10/10) LL A(S): 24/24 (15/15) RL A(S): 24/24 (15/15) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 15 Movement: 4/6/4 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Serge Axey Mechwarrior Player: magni Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Hatchet – RA (Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Small Laser – HD (Heat: 1, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Autocannon/20 – CT (Heat: 7, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: 2 hands Bromley Stables (Marik) GLT-4L Guillotine “The Fighting 18th” Weight: 70 tons (Heavy) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 22/22 (15/15) LT R A(S): 8/8 CT A(S): 27/27 (22/22) CT R A(S): 12/12 RT A(S): 22/22 (15/15) RT R A(S): 8/8 LA A(S): 20/20 (11/11) RA A(S): 20/20 (11/11) LL A(S): 22/22 (15/15) RL A(S): 22/22 (15/15) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 22 Movement: 4/6/4 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Colonel Isadora Alvarez Mechwarrior Player: GreyjoyBastard Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Medium Laser – RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Large Laser – LA (Heat: 8, Range: (L:15 M:10 S:5), Status: OK!) SRM-6 – CT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 15, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – RT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: no hands, no left arm actuator Skye Tigers Stables (Skye) TDR-5SS Thunderbolt “Warhawk” Weight: 65 tons (Heavy) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 24/24 (15/15) LT R A(S): 6/6 CT A(S): 30/30 (21/21) CT R A(S): 11/11 RT A(S): 24/24 (15/15) RT R A(S): 6/6 LA A(S): 20/20 (10/10) RA A(S): 20/20 (10/10) LL A(S): 29/29 (15/15) RL A(S): 29/29 (15/15) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 21 Movement: 4/6/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Charles Boyington Mechwarrior Player:Longinus00 Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: PPC – RA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!) Flamer – RT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) SRM-6 – LT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 15, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: 2 hands Gemini Stables (Duchy of New Syrtis) MAD-3D Marauder “Danh Khan Huu” Weight: 75 tons (Heavy) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 17/17 (16/16) LT R A(S): 8/8 CT A(S): 35/35 (23/23) CT R A(S): 10/10 RT A(S): 17/17 (16/16) RT R A(S): 8/8 LA A(S): 22/22 (12/12) RA A(S): 22/22 (12/12) LL A(S): 18/18 (16/16) RL A(S): 18/18 (16/16) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 20 Movement: 4/6/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Ngoc Binh Mechwarrior Player: Cafel Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: PPC – RA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) PPC – LA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Large Laser – RT (Heat: 8, Range: (L:15 M:10 S:5), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: no hands Tandrek Stables (Liao) CN9-AL Centurion “Legionnaire” Weight: tons (Class) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 17/17 (12/12) LT R A(S): 7/7 CT A(S): 23/23 (16/16) CT R A(S): 9/9 RT A(S): 17/17 (12/12) RT R A(S): 7/7 LA A(S): 16/16 (8/8) RA A(S): 16/16 (8/8) LL A(S): 24/24 (12/12) RL A(S): 24/24 (12/12) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 16 Movement: 4/6/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Antonin Césaire Mechwarrior Player: Felime Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Large Laser – RA (Heat: 8, Range: (L:15 M:10 S:5), Status: OK!) Small Laser – RA (Heat: 1, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT(REAR) (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) LRM-10 – LT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 15, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: 1 hand Silver Dragon Stables (Kurita) CPLT-K2 Catapult “Kokuryuu” Weight: 65 tons (Heavy) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 20/20 (15/15) LT R A(S): 8/8 CT A(S): 24/24 (21/21) CT R A(S): 11/11 RT A(S): 20/20 (15/15) RT R A(S): 8/8 LA A(S): 18/18 (10/10) RA A(S): 18/18 (10/10) LL A(S): 20/20 (15/15) RL A(S): 20/20 (15/15) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 20 Movement: 4/6/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3 Mechwarrior Name: Ken Hachiman Mechwarrior Player: anakha Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: PPC – RA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!) PPC – LA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – RT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Machine Gun – RT (Heat: 0, Ammo: 10, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Machine Gun – RT (Heat: 0, Ammo: -, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! 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{John Madden Mode:ON} Now, now in this sort of a match there's always going to be some set-up time, you know, just maneuvering and probing the other players' defenses, trying to figure out what scheme they're using and generally trying to get a feel for how the game is going to flow. You'll always see a lot of offenses use the first quarter to find the weak points in some of the opponents' defensive system and that's exactly what's happening here. You can definitely tell that Thunderbolt is just looking to be a little passive and let his arm make plays, though. The others look like they're trying to close the distance a bit, maybe find a location where they can surprise someone by changing levels. Boyington knows he's got time in the pocket though, there's on sense in trying to rush the play and making an early mistake. I'll tell you what, Al, it's, uh, well it's going to be interesting to see how things develop. {John Madden Mode: OFF}
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