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dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

the JJ posted:

The Centurion knows this, the Cat knows this. This turn they... well, turn against each other.

And the T-bolt walks up and clocks the winner of that match up in the face, gleefully reminding his victim that melee attacks don't generate heat.

Moving into melee range sure does!

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mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

T.G. Xarbala posted:



PoptartsNinja posted:

~everything~

This thread...

How can I, or how soon until I can, give you my money already?!

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

mercenarynuker posted:

This thread...

How can I, or how soon until I can, give you my money already?!

I haven't had as much time for personal writing as I'd like yet; but the good news is I do have a final signed copy of my contract so with luck it'll be going up on BattleCorps soon (with two video games coming out, I'm not really surprised they're working slowly).

And hey, if MechWarrior Online does well, maybe they'll be looking to restart the novel line in the new universe.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Oh god do they need to.

It wasn't good to begin with and then it just got so, so much worse.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

T.G. Xarbala posted:



Where's that green lion emblem on the mech arm from?

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Hob_Gadling posted:

Where's that green lion emblem on the mech arm from?

This is my best guess:1st Capellan Dragoons

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Why don't more mechs use armor sloping to increase their armor effectiveness? From what I know, only the Annihlator incorporates it into the design.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


A lot of the tanks in the series, and heavy aircraft, appear to use sloped armor in their designs. Mechs just have always had the bulky aesthetic that focused more on large bricks of armor strapped to their interior frame, designed to be easily replaced.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

Rick_Hunter posted:

This is my best guess:1st Capellan Dragoons

I've got a closer one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Finland

Lacks the swords and crown, tail is a little bit off but otherwise the similarity is striking.

Peugeot logo from 1950's is also pretty much alike. Maybe even moreso.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell

Chronojam posted:

A lot of the tanks in the series, and heavy aircraft, appear to use sloped armor in their designs. Mechs just have always had the bulky aesthetic that focused more on large bricks of armor strapped to their interior frame, designed to be easily replaced.

Yeah, especially since the rules basically say it's ablative armor. I'm trying to imagine the shape of a bipedal mech with sloped armor, and all I come up with is an octahedron with legs.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

Saint Celestine posted:

Why don't more mechs use armor sloping to increase their armor effectiveness? From what I know, only the Annihlator incorporates it into the design.

Urbanmech. It's not reflected in game terms, but the Urbanmech design is perfect for maximum deflection in an urban environment where you don't always know what direction the shots are going to be coming from.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Hob_Gadling posted:

Where's that green lion emblem on the mech arm from?

It's just a modified tracing of a GIS'ed Lion Rampant. I figured even a literally nameless merc company deserved to have a classy insig if they really wanted one. I figure it's okay since, well, as a heraldic device it's a generic icon.

Also, the closest thing I know of to armor shape having a mechanical effect is the Narrow/Low Profile design quirk from StratOps. It's not quite the same, but calculating the precise effect of armor sloping based on firing angles would unfortunately be a tad bit mental given the rules as is.

Purely design-wise? I guess because Battletech has always been big, bulky, and stompy with a side order of Dougram, though the Wobbie Celestial omnis are pretty angular in a number of ways. Only the FD-originals and his MWO redesigns really get the sloped glacis and gritty mechanical look down--it's no surprise he's done more vehicle designs for CGL than 'Mechs when you look at it that way. Also Society protos, which look amazing.

...

Speaking of protos, I wonder if there's any on the horizon. You know, the Jade Falcons are coming.

Trying to finish up Taerkar's second submission, just got back from work.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Normally I don't like reboots or revamps but one in line with the new Mechwarrior MMO might do wonders for the franchise in general. There is some very nice art coming out of the game and artists like T.G. Xarbala make the mechs much nicer to look at than the old canon 80's black and whites. If you took all the good elements of BT and boiled them down into a nice new form you could gain a lot of new players.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

How is it a reboot? Are they tossing out the old timeline and starting fresh?

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Speaking of protos, I wonder if there's any on the horizon. You know, the Jade Falcons are coming.

I hate them almost as much as I hate LAMs, so I wouldn't count on it.

No, the Jade Falcons are bringing their own unique brand of crazy to the table.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

SynthOrange posted:

How is it a reboot? Are they tossing out the old timeline and starting fresh?
My understanding was that they were going to fast-forward the timeline about 150 years ahead, past all the dumb Dark Age canon that WizKids stuck them with.

There's some good discussion in the general BattleTech thread.

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

PoptartsNinja posted:

I hate them almost as much as I hate LAMs, so I wouldn't count on it.

No, the Jade Falcons are bringing their own unique brand of crazy to the table.

If this isn't a "gun that shoots Elementals", I will be very disappointed.

Usual Barb
Aug 27, 2005

pop it and lock it

DatonKallandor posted:

Urbanmech. It's not reflected in game terms, but the Urbanmech design is perfect for maximum deflection in an urban environment where you don't always know what direction the shots are going to be coming from.
It still doesn't count for much when your armour is made out of paper-mache

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

PoptartsNinja posted:

I hate them almost as much as I hate LAMs, so I wouldn't count on it.

No, the Jade Falcons are bringing their own unique brand of crazy to the table.

Oh god, we're going to finally find out just what that 'Small Laser' was that Aidan Pryde had, aren't we?

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

T.G. Xarbala posted:

It's just a modified tracing of a GIS'ed Lion Rampant. I figured even a literally nameless merc company deserved to have a classy insig if they really wanted one. I figure it's okay since, well, as a heraldic device it's a generic icon.

I thought it was really cool. Many of the logos and symbols used in fiction are terrible, the artists obviously didn't care about meanings or general rules of heraldry at all. It's nice to see some class in there.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
The latest slowness is my fault, everyone. Work's been giving me alternating late night / early morning shifts; you will have an update today.

I've also begun compiling the `Mechs for the contest into a postable format; so if you haven't gotten me an entry and still want to, consider this a last call!

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Factory Semi-Finals: Tactical Update 14

Combat Phase
C Thunderbolt
- No line of sight to target!
- Generates 6 heat, sinks 21 20 16!

E Centurion
- No line of sight to target!
- Generates 1 heat, sinks 16!

F Catapult
- Fires PPC at C Thunderbolt (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 5): rolled 6, hit Right Leg (11/29 armor remains)!
- Fires Medium Laser at C Thunderbolt (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 7): rolled 9, hit Left Torso (8/24 armor remains)!
- Fires Medium Laser at C Thunderbolt (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement = 7): rolled 6, miss!
- Generates 18 heat, sinks 16!



Edit: Soooo many `Mechs to assemble! Maybe next time I'll standardize formatting and make my contest entrants do some of my formatting work for me.


“Boyington and Antonin are both in full retreat, it seems, trying to buy themselves a little respite for damage assessment; but Ken Hachiman is having none of that. You can color me surprised, Cal—” Duncan Fischer turned, then shrugged to find his co-commentator still missing. “—but Ken’s really surprised me this fight. There’re a lot of people who would’ve called the Catapult under-armored and under-gunned for a match like this, but he’s been running his opponents through the ringer all match and he’s not easing up one bit. Y’know, I’ve always said there’s nothing more dangerous than a Kurita `Mechwarrior with nothing to lose, and Ken’s certainly proving me right.”





Primary Objective:
- Have Fun (3/6)!
- - Die gloriously!

Secondary Objectives:
- First One to Die (Marauder (Cafel))
- - Fighting hard is its own reward
- Achievement Hunter (Guillotine (GreyjoyBastard))
- - Eliminate the First One to Die
- Look-Out Below ()
- - Step or fall on someone from a hole on a higher level
- Most Hated (Thunderbolt (Longinus00))
- - Take fire from at least three opponents on a single turn
- Most Headshots (Catapult (anakha) (2))
- - Dislikes anyone else having cockpit glass
- Dwarf Fortress’d ()
- - Lose every internal in all torso locations, suffer no damage to arm or leg internals
- Sock Blocker (Guillotine (GreyjoyBastard))
- - Die, leaving rough terrain in a chokepoint or ramp hex
- Didn’t Walk on the Duckboards (Thunderbolt (Longinus00))
- - Fail a 5+ piloting test or worse
- Out but Still In ()
- - Fail a consciousness test
- Legitimate Strategy ()
- - Shoot an unconscious target
- Most Honorable ()
- - Don’t shoot an unconscious target
- Flesh Wound (Axman (magni))
- - Eliminated via leg destruction
- Cheating Legger (Centurion (Felime))
- - Eliminated someone via blowing off a leg
- Louis XVI (Marauder (Cafel))
- - Eliminated via headshot!
- Revolutionary (Guillotine (GreyjoyBastard))
- - Eliminated someone via headshot
- Boom (Guillotine (GreyjoyBastard))
- - Eliminated via Ammo Explosion
- Fratricidal (Centurion (Felime))
- - Eliminated someone via Ammo Explosion
- Aiden Pryde (Axman (magni))
- - Eliminated in a FFA turn!
- Marthe Pryde (Centurion (Felime))
- - Eliminated Aiden Pryde in an FFA turn!
- Cursed (Axman (magni))
- - Nuffle hates this player
- Statuesque ()
- - Hold position for three or more turns in a row
- Mary Sue ()
- - Scored the most kills
- Mutually Assured Destruction (Guillotine (GreyjoyBastard) and Marauder (Cafel))
- - Two players kill (or score a kill assist on) the other, on the same turn
- Best Archaeologist ()
- - Found the Secret Hex
- Capellan Deal (someone did this but you won’t learn who until they die)
- - Formed an alliance with someone on the opposing team
- Most Entertained the GM (Thunderbolt (Longinus00))
- - Did something stupid that made PoptartsNinja grin
- Last Man Standing ()
- - Someone survived!
- Draw (0/1)
- - Nobody survived!



Enemy Movement Modifiers:
C TDR-5SS Thunderbolt “Warhawk”
E CN9-AL Centurion “Legionnaire”
F CPLT-K2 Catapult “Kokuryuu”








Overlord Stables (Steiner)
AXM-1X Axman “Copper”
Mechwarrior Name: Serge Axey
Mechwarrior Player: magni
Mechwarrior Status: Concussion (5+)!



Bromley Stables (Marik)
GLT-4L Guillotine “The Fighting 18th”
Weight: 70 tons (Heavy)
Mechwarrior Name: Colonel Isadora Alvarez
Mechwarrior Player: GreyjoyBastard
Mechwarrior Status: Shrapnel Wound, Flash Burns, Neural Shock (9+)



Skye Tigers Stables (Skye)
TDR-5SS Thunderbolt “Warhawk”
Weight: 65 tons (Heavy)
HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3)
LT A(S): 8/24 (15/15)
LT R A(S): 6/6
CT A(S): 0/30 (20/21)
CT R A(S): 11/11
RT A(S): 0/24 (0/15)
RT R A(S): 6/6
LA A(S): 15/20 (10/10)
RA A(S): 0/20 (0/10)
LL A(S): 27/29 (15/15)
RL A(S): 11/29 (15/15)
Heat: 0/30
Overheat Penalty: None
Heat Sinks: 21 16!
Movement: 4/6/0
Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3
Mechwarrior Name: Charles Boyington
Mechwarrior Player:Longinus00
Mechwarrior Status: Broken wrist, concussion (5+)!
Armament:
PPC – RA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: Blown Off!)
Flamer – RT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: Blown Off!)
Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
SRM-6 – LT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 14, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Critical Damage: Engine Hit!
Notes: 2 hands



Gemini Stables (Duchy of New Syrtis)
MAD-3D Marauder “Danh Khan Huu”
Weight: 75 tons (Heavy)
Mechwarrior Name: Ngoc Binh
Mechwarrior Player: Cafel
Mechwarrior Status: Vaporized!



Tandrek Stables (Liao)
CN9-AL Centurion “Legionnaire”
Weight: 50 tons (Medium)
HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3)
LT A(S): 0/17 (11/12)
LT R A(S): 7/7
CT A(S): 0/23 (16/16)
CT R A(S): 9/9
RT A(S): 12/17 (12/12)
RT R A(S): 7/7
LA A(S): 11/16 (8/8)
RA A(S): 16/16 (8/8)
LL A(S): 6/24 (12/12)
RL A(S): 19/24 (12/12)
Heat: 0/30
Overheat Penalty: None
Heat Sinks: 16
Movement: 4/6/0
Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3
Mechwarrior Name: Antonin Césaire
Mechwarrior Player: Felime
Mechwarrior Status: OK!
Armament:
Large Laser – RA (Heat: 8, Range: (L:15 M:10 S:5), Status: OK!)
Small Laser – RA (Heat: 1, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!)
Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Medium Laser – CT(REAR) (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
LRM-10 – LT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 12, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!)
Critical Damage: None!
Notes: 1 hand



Silver Dragon Stables (Kurita)
CPLT-K2 Catapult “Kokuryuu”
Weight: 65 tons (Heavy)
HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3)
LT A(S): 0/20 (12/15)
LT R A(S): 8/8
CT A(S): 7/24 (21/21)
CT R A(S): 11/11
RT A(S): 8/20 (15/15)
RT R A(S): 8/8
LA A(S): 0/18 (3/10)
RA A(S): 0/18 (7/10)
LL A(S): 15/20 (15/15)
RL A(S): 15/20 (15/15)
Heat: 2/30
Overheat Penalty:
Heat Sinks: 20
Movement: 4/6/0
Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 3
Mechwarrior Name: Ken Hachiman
Mechwarrior Player: anakha
Mechwarrior Status: OK!
Armament:
PPC – RA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!)
PPC – LA (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: DESTROYED!)
Medium Laser – RT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Medium Laser – LT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!)
Machine Gun – RT (Heat: 0, Ammo: 6, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!)
Machine Gun – RT (Heat: 0, Ammo: -, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!)
Critical Damage: None!
Notes: no hands or arm actuators



Edit: So many entries! Maybe next time I'll standardize formatting and get some help from my contest entrants!

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 2, 2012

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


I think if anyone but the Cat wants to win they should try and end him. But that's just me.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
It's amazing how long `Mechs can hang on when they're not being focus-fired.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Catapult

Defiance Industries posted:

I think if anyone but the Cat wants to win they should try and end him. But that's just me.

Hush, you.

Plek
Jul 30, 2009
I can see the Centurian taking the match if the thunderbolt bites it. The Catapult is pretty chewed up, so getting in close to keep the PPC off of him could work yeah?




I've been pretty lurky in this thread, but I've sent in a pair of submissions for the design contest. The Capellan bit is pretty ho-hum, a heavy with large lasers and LRMs. But I think the entry for the Ryokens is pretty quirky. What with four legs and all.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


anakha posted:

Catapult


Hush, you.

I'm the principle sponsor of Skye Tigers stables; you can't expect neutrality from me.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Plek posted:

I've been pretty lurky in this thread, but I've sent in a pair of submissions for the design contest. The Capellan bit is pretty ho-hum, a heavy with large lasers and LRMs. But I think the entry for the Ryokens is pretty quirky. What with four legs and all.

I got a surprising number of Quads, considering they're more the Free World's League's bag. I guess people want to see Horses vs. Horses or something.

... either that, or you just want the Jade Falcons to get mule-kicked.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

PoptartsNinja posted:

I got a surprising number of Quads, considering they're more the Free World's League's bag. I guess people want to see Horses vs. Horses or something.

... either that, or you just want the Jade Falcons to get mule-kicked.

Clearly FWL needs to borrow those Unicorn and Pegasus mechs from the Hell's Horses for some Kentucky Fried Falcon action...

Plek
Jul 30, 2009

PoptartsNinja posted:

I got a surprising number of Quads, considering they're more the Free World's League's bag. I guess people want to see Horses vs. Horses or something.

... either that, or you just want the Jade Falcons to get mule-kicked.

Honestly, the idea of a clan mech getting knocked down and then kicked in the face gets me excited.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
20 DS entries, 19 CapCon entries in my PM box alone. I haven't even touched the e-mails yet.

I may have to make a throwaway webpage for the vote.

Felime
Jul 10, 2009
Centurion

The thing that most scares me on the field right now is the SRM6.

That and anakha and I have been conspiring since turn 1 or 2, I forget exactly.

Fatties get out. :commissar:

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

The thing I care about most is finding out where Cal has gotten to.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Down to the wire now, and I did not expect this outcome.

Unfortunately, the actual update's going to have to wait until tomorrow since it's now after 2:00 AM and I'm too tired to write decent fiction.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

PoptartsNinja posted:

Down to the wire now, and I did not expect this outcome.

Unfortunately, the actual update's going to have to wait until tomorrow since it's now after 2:00 AM and I'm too tired to write decent fiction.

:argh:

You tease!

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Welp, we're coming up to the end. Still holding out hope on seeing things devolve into an ineffectual kicking match, or perhaps a boxing cross-counter.

It'll be a minor miracle if I somehow manage to finish before voting's done, but I'll get done somehow no matter what! Taerkar's sketches are sent and Captain Foo has received the first of two. It'll take a day per pic to finish the rest so I guess this'll be BattleMech Sketch Boot Camp week. Let's see how many shortcuts I can take while still leaving things looking decent. Also you have no idea how much self-control it's taking to not to give jng2058's contest entry an RGM-79-derived GM head. Since my own entries can wait until everyone's done, this means I'm pretty much done with the Capellan sketches for a while (and no more copy-pasting missile tube templates!) so I can focus on the Ryuken designs.

It's curious that of the Capellan designs I got to work with, only one was not a chickenwalker.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

PoptartsNinja posted:

Down to the wire now, and I did not expect this outcome.

Unfortunately, the actual update's going to have to wait until tomorrow since it's now after 2:00 AM and I'm too tired to write decent fiction.

Triple knock-out? Please say triple knock-out! :f5:

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
C'mon Comstar invasion. Got a thousand murderbux on the line here.

Oh, who am I kidding. Nobody wins. Everyone loses. gently caress this stupid factory. etc.

Felime
Jul 10, 2009

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Welp, we're coming up to the end. Still holding out hope on seeing things devolve into an ineffectual kicking match, or perhaps a boxing cross-counter.

It'll be a minor miracle if I somehow manage to finish before voting's done, but I'll get done somehow no matter what! Taerkar's sketches are sent and Captain Foo has received the first of two. It'll take a day per pic to finish the rest so I guess this'll be BattleMech Sketch Boot Camp week. Let's see how many shortcuts I can take while still leaving things looking decent. Also you have no idea how much self-control it's taking to not to give jng2058's contest entry an RGM-79-derived GM head. Since my own entries can wait until everyone's done, this means I'm pretty much done with the Capellan sketches for a while (and no more copy-pasting missile tube templates!) so I can focus on the Ryuken designs.

It's curious that of the Capellan designs I got to work with, only one was not a chickenwalker.

While PTN is being a tease and I really want to know whether I explode, I'm almost as excited for this.

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jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Warning possibly spoilery speculation: Anyone wanna lay odds that the reason we've got a missing announcer ex-mechwarrior is because he's strapping himself into his much of choice and getting ready to fight everyone in it?

Oh, and drat you T.G. Xarbala, because of your comment I just spent like a half hour reading through the production history of various gundams on Gundam wiki!

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