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Slaan posted:Why does water kill battle armor? They are in suits that are designed to withstand an SRM('s near hit)! Surely a bit of water damage won't hurt them. Battle armor are very heavy, they sink to the bottom and get caught in the muck and they are slowed to an absolute crawl. (some ba have underwater movement though they are unaffected) they aren't dead but they can't get out of the water for the rest of the fight and several hours. (most rounds conclude in minutes of hectic freeming game time)
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PoptartsNinja posted:Omnis were found to be extremely cost-ineffecient. Great for the Clans, who only have to outfit a few thousand `Mechwarriors. Bad for the Great Houses who have to outfit several hundred thousand. Certainly for the average line units you wouldn't expect to see Omnis, but it wouldn't be a far stretch to say that they are basically perfect for the smaller elite formations that exist in most Successor state loadouts (I.E. Capellan Warrior Houses) Not to mention, these are the types of formations usually small enough to have far simpler specialized supply lines than huge RCT's or Reserve Cavalry divisions. There are plenty of "limited production, only goes to the most important unit" type designs already that aren't Omnis. Not to mention the fact that we say in Prototypes that the Inner Sphere is really excited experimenting with the special custom Handheld configurations, which appear to likely be just as much of a nightmare as Omni logistics (most likely more in fact, as there is much less potential for interchangeable parts in custom designed handheld gear) I mean, the fact of the matter is that clans could only afford to do playground fights because their Omnimechs were so expensive, but the Successor States are big boys with actual infrastructure and boatloads of cash/resources to do dumb poo poo with all the time. It might not be the best idea, but it isn't going to stop the Successor states from continuing to make them in at least limited numbers with the occasional new design. It hasn't stopped them before with god knows how many hilariously bad/overcosted designs or logistical nightmares. Of course, none of that will change the basic fact that Omni mechs just don't fill as many pages in a Tech Readout as standard designs and that's fine. Though before they go putting magnetic clamps on every other suit of BA I would much rather see more creative/interesting APC type designs built around tranpsorting infantry/BA. It seems like a perfect fit for the new WiGE type vehicles - so hopefully we will see some interesting use of that in the next TRO. Picard Day fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jun 12, 2012 |
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Slaan posted:Why does water kill battle armor? They are in suits that are designed to withstand an SRM('s near hit)! Surely a bit of water damage won't hurt them. Yeah there is a lot of weird bullshit like this. Like the bullshit hit-but-no-hit partial cover crap from tacops. Works well enough in an rpg scenario or in this story-driven thread. But when I'm playing matches it pisses me off when I manage to roll a 12 to hit or some poo poo and it gets blocked by terrain. Or the crazy fragile armor? Tanks aren't worth their BV because they are so drat fragile. On the bright side, people underestimate armor enough that light tanks can be effective.
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They might cost more, but consider how much time your techs can shave off doing repair work so you can get out on the field. Damaged weapons, hear sinks, JJs? Swap em out for one that works and repair the busted one later. Takes minutes. If you're just fixing guns and replacing armor, you can have an OmniMech back out on the field in under an hour, rather than the next day.
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Oh yeah "The Long Game" (Stay as far away, OUT OF RANGE WITH CLAN ER LARGE, as you can from the guy and plink). the solutions are to be faster than the guy so he can't run or have stealth/c3/tsm or the like because clans don't. The clans do not actually use any special gear other than BA, mechs have 3/4 pilots and arbitrarily better gear but they are actually fairly generic guns guns guns and don't far as well against a tsm hatchet coming in at 7/11 So Surprisingly the faction best suited to mess up clanners are the farthest away (Cap ConFed)
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AtomikKrab posted:Oh yeah "The Long Game" (Stay as far away, OUT OF RANGE WITH CLAN ER LARGE, as you can from the guy and plink). the solutions are to be faster than the guy so he can't run or have stealth/c3/tsm or the like because clans don't. The clans do not actually use any special gear other than BA, mechs have 3/4 pilots and arbitrarily better gear but they are actually fairly generic guns guns guns and don't far as well against a tsm hatchet coming in at 7/11 So Surprisingly the faction best suited to mess up clanners are the farthest away (Cap ConFed) The LC builds stealth armor too, as of 3075. They also get the iHGR, which is the ultimate "No, gently caress YOU!" gun. Weighs 20 tons and gets 4 tons of ammo a shot, but does 22 damage at all ranges.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Omnis were found to be extremely cost-ineffecient. It's probably dangerous to stray into real world comparisons, but I always thought this was one of the best done things in fluff. Real world tanks are designed to be as modular as possible. Power packs, mine-sweeping equipment, even armor (of certain types) can be added or replaced very quickly. The equipment is also standardized to a high degree, allowing repair crews to remove a working engine from an otherwise totaled tank and mounting it onto another vehicle in a pinch. Something like this was the original purpose of OmniMech concept. But Clan societies took an unexpected turn to the strange. Rather than utilizing their technology to create a good mass army with as much advantages as possible, they started to value a small elite. Mechs became a vehicle for self-expression, not unlike armor of medieval knights. While results were important, style and panache were even more so. Rather than being weapons of war, they became rituals of mating. Which is very fitting, considering the whole concept of phallic symbols in the first place.
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I now feel dirty about my Jade Falcons. Thanks for that.
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Arquinsiel posted:I now feel dirty about my Jade Falcons. Thanks for that. As well you should.
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Hob_Gadling posted:It's probably dangerous to stray into real world comparisons, but I always thought this was one of the best done things in fluff. Real world tanks are designed to be as modular as possible. Power packs, mine-sweeping equipment, even armor (of certain types) can be added or replaced very quickly. The equipment is also standardized to a high degree, allowing repair crews to remove a working engine from an otherwise totaled tank and mounting it onto another vehicle in a pinch. For that reason it's really, really hard to completely total an Abrams tank, you'd basically have to throw the chassis into a metal shredder.
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Hob_Gadling posted:It's probably dangerous to stray into real world comparisons, but I always thought this was one of the best done things in fluff. Real world tanks are designed to be as modular as possible. Power packs, mine-sweeping equipment, even armor (of certain types) can be added or replaced very quickly. The equipment is also standardized to a high degree, allowing repair crews to remove a working engine from an otherwise totaled tank and mounting it onto another vehicle in a pinch. Technically that's true for standard mechs as well. It's why field refit kits exist (And why it's possible to field refit an engine from a standard to an XL). It's just that Omnis are even quicker at it and feature a 'plug-n-play' interface as well. It's a turn around time of a few hours at most rather than a few days. Sure you can swap out the power pack for an M1 with a new one, but replacing the gun system would be a lot more difficult.
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Orders are in, update will be in about 3 hours unless I gently caress something up. Kudos, players, I didn't have to get on anyone's case and we're back in the groove! Edit: My Death-A-Turn prediction is coming true. Double Edit: 25%/33% chance of a second. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:Orders are in, update will be in about 3 hours unless I gently caress something up. With the Locusts on the field that's hardly a risky bet. Still now I have to keep my fingers crossed that it's not one of the more effective mechs we have in action.
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Caldera: Tactical Update 11 Movement Phase M2 Hermes II - Makes a careful stand! Combat Phase A5 Bobcat - Torso twists to threaten hex 1308! - Fires Snub-Nose PPC at M8 Hammer 2 (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 0 enemy movement = 7): rolled 11, hit Rear Center Torso (0/4 armor, 1/10 structure remains)! Critical chance! - Fires ER Medium Laser at M8 Hammer 2 (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 0 enemy movement = 7): rolled 9, hit Rear Center Torso (0/10 structure remains)! `Mech destroyed! - Gains 21 heat, sinks ???! M1 Shadow Hawk - Fires Autocannon/5 at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 minimum range + 1 partial cover = 12): rolled 9, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 partial cover = 11): rolled 6, miss! - Fires SRM-2 at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 partial cover = 11): rolled 10! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 12! M2 Hermes II - Fires Autocannon/5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 9, hit Left Arm (5/20 armor remains)! - Fires Medium Laser at S1 Coyote (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Gains 5 heat, sinks 10! M3 Hammer 1 - Torso twists to threaten hex 1703! - Fires LRM-5 at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 partial cover = 10): rolled 10, 4 missiles hit Right Torso (8/18 armor remains)! - Fires LRM-5 at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 partial cover = 10): rolled 3, miss! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 12! M4 Cicada - Fires PPC at A5 Bobcat! No line-of-sight to target! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 11! M6 Valkyrie - Fires Medium Laser at A5 Bobcat (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 8 heat, sinks 11! M8 Hammer 2 - Torso twists to threaten hex 1107! - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 minimum range = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 minimum range = 8): rolled 7, miss! - Gains 5 heat, sinks 12! Mj Locust 1 - Torso Twists to threaten hex 1406! - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 8): rolled 8, 5 missiles hit Left Leg (18/28 armor remains)! - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 8): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at S1 Coyote (4 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 12): rolled 9, miss! - Gains 9 heat, sinks 10! Mk Locust 2 - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 minimum range = 9): rolled 5, miss! - Fires LRM-5 at S1 Coyote (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 minimum range = 9): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 9 heat, sinks 10! S1 Coyote - Fires Snub-Nose PPC at M3 Hammer 1 (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 7): rolled 7, hit Left Torso (0/10 armor, 0/10 structure remains)! Torso destroyed! - - 1 damage transfers to Center Torso (1/15 armor remains)! - Fires ER Medium Laser at M3 Hammer 1 (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 9): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (0/15 armor 6/10 structure remains)! Critical chance! - Fires ER Medium Laser at M3 Hammer 1 (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 9): rolled 9, hit Right Torso (2/7 structure remains)! Critical chance! - Gains 20 heat, sinks ???! End Phase: M3 Hammer - Critical chance in Center Torso! 1 critical hit sustained! - - Gyro hit! - Critical chance in Right Torso! 2 critical hits sustained! - - Heat Sink destroyed! - - Ammo hit! - Suffers 95 damage to Left Torso in an Ammo Explosion (0/7 structure remains)! - - Damage transfers to Center Torso (0/10 structure remains)! `Mech destroyed! “Third Lance! Alright!” Hector Halas cheered over the comms. as Patil’s Locust crested the ridgeline. The little `Mech’s wing-like arms pivoted, tracking for targets as the `Mech took one of those bizarre hop-skips the Locust was famous for—the pilot preparing to charge or bolt depending on what she found over the ridgeline. “Thank god you’re here! Is Charlie’s Stalker close enough for some indirect—” “Lieutenant,” Patil’s voice cut through Halas’ exuberance. “Reporting in! Third Lance blundered into an ambush, mixed mediums and an unknown heavy. Charlie and Arnaud bought us some time to run for help.” “The situation’s not good, Jack,” Lieutenant Chatzi replied. “Any idea of third’s status?” “Not past the jamming, sir.” Silence lingered for a few moments as the Locusts charged into the fray, unloading flights of LRMs at the closing enemy heavy. They couldn’t hurt it significantly, but they could draw its attention. Chatzi struggled for a moment as the unknown enemy medium touched down in a defile, nearly blocking his line of sight. Its wide-beam PPC caught Zane’s little Hammer square in the back, burning away armor and skeletal steel. Myomer bundles snapped and the Hammer staggered as its gyro skipped; then the little man-shaped `Mech crumpled bonelessly as its torso collapsed into itself. “Focus on the medium,” Chatzi growled. “We can evade the heavy and ride to Third’s rescue.” “poo poo,” Halas’ voice crackled quietly, yet just loudly enough to carry. Chatzi squeezed his eyes closed. “Iron Guard,” he growled. “We’ve never been beaten. I don’t care what it takes, but we’re taking out that medium, rescuing Third lance, and pushing these assholes off our planet.” Mission Objective: Drive Off the 17th Arcturan Guards (5/6) Secondary Objective: Destroy or Disable the 17th Arcturan Guards (Failed!) Evade the enemy Heavy `Mech () Enemy Movement Modifiers: A5) B0C-13T Bobcat (ACE) – [+3 jumped] S1) W1L-3C Coyote – +1 Ran   M1) SHD-2H Shadow Hawk Weight: 55 tons (Medium) HD A(S): 4/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 0/18 (10/13) LT R A(S): 1/6 CT A(S): 17/23 (18/18) CT R A(S): 8/8 RT A(S): 2/18 (13/13) RT R A(S): 6/6 LA A(S): 0/16 (9/9) RA A(S): 16/16 (9/9) LL A(S): 1/16 (13/13) RL A(S): 14/16 (13/13) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 12 Movement: 5/8/3 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Lieutenant S.G. Erasmus Chatzi Mechwarrior Player: Sair Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Autocannon/5 – LT (Heat: 1, Ammo: 11, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – RT (Heat: 2, Ammo: 20, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) SRM-2 – HD (Heat: 2, Ammo: 42, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: 2 hands M2) HER-2S Hermes II Weight: 40 tons (Medium) HD A(S): 5/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 7/14 (10/10) LT R A(S): 5/5 CT A(S): 8/17 (12/12) CT R A(S): 6/6 RT A(S): 0/14 (10/10) RT R A(S): 5/5 LA A(S): 0/11 (2/6) RA A(S): 1/11 (6/6) LL A(S): 12/14 (10/10) RL A(S): 0/14 (7/10) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 10 Movement: 6/9/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Sergeant Damaris Golde Mechwarrior Player: Pinguliten Mechwarrior Status: Broken back, Broken skull (7+)! Armament: Medium Laser – RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Flamer – LA (Heat: 2, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Autocannon/5 – RT (Heat: 1, Ammo: 14, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 Min:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: Left Upper Arm Actuator destroyed! Notes: 1 hand M3) HMR-2M Hammer 1 Weight: 30 tons (Light) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 0/10 (0/7) LT R A(S): 4/4 CT A(S): 0/15 (6/10) CT R A(S): 4/4 RT A(S): 0/10 (7/7) RT R A(S): 4/4 LA A(S): 0/10 (0/5) RA A(S): 10/10 (5/5) LL A(S): 9/14 (7/7) RL A(S): 14/14 (7/7) Heat: 4/30 Overheat Penalty: Movement reduced to 4/6/0! Heat Sinks: 12 Movement: 5/8/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Private Karan Stephanopoulos Mechwarrior Player: BatteredFeltFedora Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: LRM-5 – RT (Heat: 2, Ammo: 19, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – LT (Heat: 2, Ammo: -, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – HD (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: Engine hit! Gyro hit! Destroyed! Notes: 2 hands M4) CDA-3C (field refit) Cicada Weight: 40 tons (Class) HD A(S): 4/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 6/6 (10/10) LT R A(S): 3/3 CT A(S): 11/11 (12/12) CT R A(S): 6/6 RT A(S): 6/6 (10/10) RT R A(S): 3/3 LA A(S): 4/4 (6/6) RA A(S): 4/4 (6/6) LL A(S): 6/6 (10/10) RL A(S): 6/6 (10/10) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 11 Movement: 7/11/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 4, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: PFC Stavros Andreou Mechwarrior Player: Rhobot Mk. II Mechwarrior Status: Caught in a cloud of transplex vapor (3+)! Armament: PPC – RT (Heat: 10, Range: (L:18 M:12 S:6 M:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Small Laser – RL (Heat: 1, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Small Laser – LL (Heat: 1, Range: (L:3 M:2 S:1), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: no arm actuators M5) HER-1S Hermes Weight: 30 tons (Light) Mechwarrior Name: Lieutenant J.G. Lycoris Asker Mechwarrior Player: LeschNyhan Mechwarrior Status: Flash burns (3+), Killed in Action! Notes: Destroyed! M6) VAL-QA Valkyrie Weight: 30 tons (Light) HD A(S): 8/8 (3/3) LT A(S): 7/12 (7/7) LT R A(S): 2/2 CT A(S): 14/14 (10/10) CT R A(S): 4/4 RT A(S): 2/12 (7/7) RT R A(S): 2/2 LA A(S): 9/9 (5/5) RA A(S): 4/9 (5/5) LL A(S): 3/12 (7/7) RL A(S): 12/12 (7/7) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 11 Movement: 5/8/5 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Corporal Hector Halas Mechwarrior Player: GreyjoyBastard Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Medium Laser –RA (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) LRM-10 – LT (Heat: 4, Ammo: 3, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: 1 hand M7) SDR-5V Spider Weight: 30 tons (Light) Mechwarrior Name: PFC Flavian Gryphon Mechwarrior Player: cafel Mechwarrior Status: 2nd degree burns (3+), Killed! Notes: Destroyed! M8) HMR-2M Hammer 2 Weight: 30 tons (Light) HD A(S): 9/9 (3/3) LT A(S): 0/10 (0/7) LT R A(S): 4/4 CT A(S): 0/15 (0/10) CT R A(S): 0/4 RT A(S): 2/10 (7/7) RT R A(S): 4/4 LA A(S): 10/10 (5/5) RA A(S): 10/10 (5/5) LL A(S): 14/14 (7/7) RL A(S): 14/14 (7/7) Heat: 3/30 Overheat Penalty: Heat Sinks: Movement: 5/8/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Private Vernados Zane Mechwarrior Player: Slaan Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: LRM-5 – RT (Heat: 2, Ammo: 20, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – LT (Heat: 2, Ammo: -, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: Destroyed!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Medium Laser – HD (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: Gyro hit! Left arm blown off! Destroyed! Notes: 2 hands M9) Catapult Status: Unknown M10) Stalker Status: Unknown Mj) LCT-1M Locust 1 Weight: 20 tons (Light) HD A(S): 3/3 (3/3) LT A(S): 2/2 (5/5) LT R A(S): 1/1 CT A(S): 2/2 (6/6) CT R A(S): 1/1 RT A(S): 2/2 (5/5) RT R A(S): 1/1 LA A(S): 1/1 (3/3) RA A(S): 1/1 (3/3) LL A(S): 1/1 (4/4) RL A(S): 1/1 (4/4) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 10 Movement: 8/12/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Private Patil Jackson Mechwarrior Player: LeschNyhan Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – RA (Heat: 1, Ammo: 24, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – RA (Heat: 1, Ammo: -, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: no hands or arm actuators Mk) LCT-1M Locust 2 Weight: 20 tons (Light) HD A(S): 3/3 (3/3) LT A(S): 2/2 (5/5) LT R A(S): 1/1 CT A(S): 2/2 (6/6) CT R A(S): 1/1 RT A(S): 2/2 (5/5) RT R A(S): 1/1 LA A(S): 1/1 (3/3) RA A(S): 1/1 (3/3) LL A(S): 1/1 (4/4) RL A(S): 1/1 (4/4) Heat: 0/30 Overheat Penalty: None Heat Sinks: 10 Movement: 8/12/0 Mechwarrior: Pilot 5, Gunnery 4 Mechwarrior Name: Private Norman King Mechwarrior Player: Cafel Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: Medium Laser – CT (Heat: 3, Range: (L:9 M:6 S:3), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – RA (Heat: 1, Ammo: 24, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) LRM-5 – RA (Heat: 1, Ammo: -, Range: (L:21 M:14 S:7 Min:6), Status: OK!) Critical Damage: None! Notes: no hands or arm actuators 17th Arcturan Guards A1) WLF-1 Wolfhound Weight: 35 tons (Light) Notes: Fled! A2) COM-2D Commando Weight: 25 tons (Light) Notes: Fled! A3) CLNT-2-3T Clint Weight: 40 tons (Medium) Notes: Fled! A4) BZK-F2 Hollander Weight: 35 tons (Light) Mechwarrior Status: KIA! Notes: 2 hands A5) B0C-13T Bobcat Weight: 45 tons (Medium) Overheat Penalty: None Movement: 6/9/6 Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: PPC, 2x Medium Laser, Retractable Blade Critical Damage: None! Notes: 1 hand, ACE A6) GRF-1S Griffin Weight: 55 tons (Medium) Mechwarrior Status: KIA! Notes: 2 hands S1) WIL-3C Coyote Weight: 65 tons (Heavy) Overheat Penalty: None Movement: 5/8/0 Mechwarrior Status: OK! Armament: PPC, Medium Laser, Medium Laser, SRM-6, ??? Critical Damage: None! Notes: 1 hand S2) JKR-10R Jackrabbit Weight: 25 tons (Light) Mechwarrior Status: KIA! Notes: 1 hand PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Goddamn goonlance is having some poo poo luck this game.
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Don't lose hope, Battletech can still happen at any time! Also, a few hits to the left leg and you'll mission kill the Bobcat.
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Ouch, not quite the turn I was hoping for. If only I had CLRM's planning moves would be a lot easier. Still can't let down the impeccable history of the Iron Guard.
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You guys still have a great shot at completing the mission even with your two best mechs down, but I am starting to doubt your ability to finish off any secondary objectives. Those Hammers were a huge chunk of your firepower.
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KnoxZone posted:You guys still have a great shot at completing the mission even with your two best mechs down, but I am starting to doubt your ability to finish off any secondary objectives. Those Hammers were a huge chunk of your firepower. It seems like the secondary objective has possibly shifted to retreat? Even then against a non-Ace I think we'd have a decent shot. It would just take a really long time.
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PTN, could you please clarify where the Coyote was twisting to hit? Also which Hammer got the three criticals resolved at the end of the combat phase, because I think that was me, M3, not M8. VV Thank you! Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jun 14, 2012 |
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He didn't torso twist, and fixed.
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I begin to doubt my capability to use up all my LRM ammo. I mean, I guess I could start hunting the Coyote, but one good LRM salvo on the Bobcat might win us the match.
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PoptartsNinja posted:M1 Shadow Hawk
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Arquinsiel posted:This is actually firing everything at the Bobcat right? That looks like everything except the LRMs, but if you need 12's to hit with SRMs then your LRMs are going to need 16s to hit, which is impossible. I am a little confused why the SRM's needed a 12 but the Medium Laser needed an 11. Doesn't matter, though. You would have missed with both.
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 I've decided to support a Goonlance gang tag. If you make a cool one, not only will I use it and upload it so others can to, you'll get to wear it yourself, courtesy of Defiance Industries and his bank account. The contest runs, uh, until I get a few.
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I have no photoshop ability, but someone needs to take the dragonlance logo and change dragon to goon.
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Defiance Industries posted:
Something with an Urbie seems to be a must for Goons.
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The Hauptmann really is the most badass looking 'mech in all possible situations.
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Nevets with the first entry. DEAL WITH IT, it compels us. And does not Goonlance "deal with it" when things go bad? By doing a weird crab dance on the hull of a DropShip or challenging Clanners to boxing matches? (Don't worry, I'll do this for all of them).
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Maybe someone should add a "goonlance." in text in the bottom corner for the last couple frames?
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Ba Donk a Bonk posted:Maybe someone should add a "goonlance." in text in the bottom corner for the last couple frames? I like the way you think.
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Arcturas posted:That looks like everything except the LRMs, but if you need 12's to hit with SRMs then your LRMs are going to need 16s to hit, which is impossible. I am a little confused why the SRM's needed a 12 but the Medium Laser needed an 11. Doesn't matter, though. You would have missed with both.
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AtomikKrab posted:Oh yeah "The Long Game" (Stay as far away, OUT OF RANGE WITH CLAN ER LARGE, as you can from the guy and plink). the solutions are to be faster than the guy so he can't run or have stealth/c3/tsm or the like because clans don't. The clans do not actually use any special gear other than BA, mechs have 3/4 pilots and arbitrarily better gear but they are actually fairly generic guns guns guns and don't far as well against a tsm hatchet coming in at 7/11 So Surprisingly the faction best suited to mess up clanners are the farthest away (Cap ConFed) The best faction for messing up Clanners is the Manei Domini. They have literally every trick that the Clanners find hard to deal with. And also, a MD in a Longinus is almost as good as an Elemental. And better pilots.
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Ba Donk a Bonk posted:Maybe someone should add a "goonlance." in text in the bottom corner for the last couple frames? 
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I'd wear that with pride.
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I'd take a hack at it but all I'm good at is lovely, lovely MS Paint croppings. Maybe I can talk my best friend (also a goon) into giving it a try...
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