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radintorov posted:Pretty much. Same thing with 'mech Stackpoling (fusion reactors exploding like nukes). Some aspects of BT tech are actually somewhat believable, but others just aren't. It was never meant to be an "hardcore science" game. Funny thing is that Stackpoling is only an optional rule that is specifically noted to be unrealistic Hollywood science. Tech Manual even goes as far as delivering a canon piece that has a professor at NAIS mock the whole idea during a lecture and explaining exactly what would happen even if you completley breached an active fusion reactor. (Summary: You get a huge flame shooting out of the breach for a second or so and some lingering heat. That's all.) Magni fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Magni posted:Funny thing is that Stackpoling is only an optional rule that is specifically noted to be unrealistic Hollywood science. Tech Manual even goes as far as delivering a canon piece that has a professor at NAIS mock the whole idea during a lecture and explaining exactly what would happen even if you completley breahced an active fusion reactor. (Summary: You get a huge flame shooting out of the breach for a second or so and some lingering heat. That's all.) Wait, are you saying MW3 lied to me? Not possible.
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Nevets posted:Oh god yes.
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raverrn posted:Wait, are you saying MW3 lied to me? Wasn't Mechwarrior 3 the one where 'Mechs didn't explode? You know, unlike all the other games, especially number four? e: Oh yeah, they did Stackpole in a ridiculous mushroom cloud explosion if you overheated them! Flamer boats were ridiculous in the best way. 
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A friend of mine half-killed me in a multiplayer game by sticking nothing but CERPPC on his Dire Wolf and stripping out everything that wasn't a PPC. It fully-killed him. Sadly he was on my team 
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Nevets posted:This is truly a great victory for Lyran engineering.
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Octatonic posted:Wasn't Mechwarrior 3 the one where 'Mechs didn't explode? You know, unlike all the other games, especially number four? You know, you can, actually, turn off 'mech explosion splash damage in MW4, which is effectively turning off the Stackpole rule. At that point, 'mechs falling down and going boom is just the game's way of removing a gigantic lump of polygons (not really) to replace it with a much smaller amorphous mass of polygons, alpha channel and char-colored texture. It makes UAC/20s and LBX/20s a lot more fun when you can safely get into "Dodge this" ranges without fear of being killed by the other guy exploding. (Now, his GUNS are another matter, so this is still best accomplished from behind.)
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What happened to this thread? 
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It moved away from creepy furry pics to an awesome Hauptmann image. That should make it far less psyduck inducing, not more. 
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SynthOrange posted:What happened to this thread? 
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I demand Clanner pilots, as the only Clanner warriors we haven't seen in our new cannon yet, now be genetically engineered into furries. e: Why? Clan Hell Horses and ponytars, that's why.
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the JJ posted:I demand Clanner pilots, as the only Clanner warriors we haven't seen in our new cannon yet, now be genetically engineered into furries. I meet your demand with a heartfelt yet emphatic 'gently caress you'.
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PoptartsNinja posted:I meet your demand with a heartfelt yet emphatic 'gently caress you'. I respect this opinion.
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Man, those Elementals really did gently caress you ComStar guys up... 3 of your Mechs down to breaches caused by Elemental swarm attacks, 1 pilot dead, another almost dead due to the loss of armor in the head in another Mech... The remaining Mechs losing arms and weapons due to breach... And all you guys have in response is 2 points of Elementals wiped out, plus two Clan Mechs damaged severely. I will say the Clint made the most of its predicament by shooting off the Left Torso of the Clan Hell's Horses Guillotine IIC before the Elementals killed the pilot... Seriously, though it isn't looking good for you guys. There's still 1 full point of Elementals out there that can gently caress you up something fierce and that relatively undamaged Grasshopper IIC, not to mention the damaged Guillotine and Hawk variant... Gonna be real hard to eke out anything positive here for you ComStar guys... Also, nice characterization of the Point Commander of the Elementals... He was shown to be killed by a breach, but with PTN saying he might not be dead and might be back, I dunno. Hmm, guess I'll just have to wait and see. Kicking Elementals with a Mech's giant foot is an amusing image. The Kintaro being able to splatter them outright with a kick only adds to that image. Guess I'm not really impressed by ComStar tech. Sure, that NARC beacon might have helped, and when you did focus fire it was impressive, but otherwise, this has been a relatively pedestrian mission. Maybe I'm just not appreciating something, what with my inexperience with BattleTech and stuff... Last but not least, the sudden explosion of female kobold/afro female kobold/afro female kobold wielding a knife/afro Guillotine being piloted by an afro female kobold wielding a knife/Crab walking Crab Mech/  Hauptmann/Crab/ fanart can be greatly amusing when it isn't do disturbing... Keep it out/tone it down, I don't know what to think here...
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the JJ posted:I demand Clanner pilots, as the only Clanner warriors we haven't seen in our new cannon yet, now be genetically engineered into furries.  Bam, now it's canon. And they're not furries, they're kobolds.
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TildeATH posted:And they're not furries, they're kobolds. I dunno what those are, but this is a Kobold: 
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Fraction Jackson posted:I dunno what those are, but this is a Kobold: I like this one better.
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Octatonic posted:e: Oh yeah, they did Stackpole in a ridiculous mushroom cloud explosion if you overheated them! Flamer boats were ridiculous in the best way. Due to a quirk in the way heat buildup was handled, alpha striking with 4 or more ER large lasers would instantly explode your mech. No amount of heatsinks could prevent this. Made the Supernova a hilarious deathtrap. Aside from that and the "every mech is a omni" business though, yeah, MW3 was the best in the series by a gigantic shot. Too bad it basically can't handle any version of windows less than 15 years old.
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Sam Hall posted:
No kidding. I've tried about a dozen times on my two year old computer. 
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Fraction Jackson posted:I dunno what those are, but this is a Kobold: Bullshit, that thing has way more than d4 HP. I doubt it could even FIT in a 10'x10' stone corridor.
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Ah, the Kobold. Such dickery. ComStar helps Rasalhague build it, then Rasalhague breaks up for them in favor of the Ghost Bears. At least the FRR was honest enough to drop the "Free" and "Republic" parts out of their names when that happened. It could totally fit in a 10x10 corridor, though. Battle Armor isn't THAT much taller than a person, and the Kobold is light BA. You want something that won't fit in a corridor, let's talk Fenrir (which, like most quad BA, is really more like a one-person car with a huge gun strapped to the top) or the ridiculously oversized Golem. Defiance Industries fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Sam Hall posted:Due to a quirk in the way heat buildup was handled, alpha striking with 4 or more ER large lasers would instantly explode your mech. No amount of heatsinks could prevent this. Made the Supernova a hilarious deathtrap. And all mechs weren't Omnis, they were all just built using standard construction rules. It's just that unless you actually have to put time into the actual customisation you end up having no real difference between an Omni- and a Battlemech other than an insane pricetag.
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Arquinsiel posted:It has 10 doubles. At that engagement range it can use it all the drat time. The Clan doesn't really do skirmishers or guerrilla warfare, though, right? And they prefer single combat where you should not run away from your enemy or avoid their fire? That would seem to negate the advantages gained by using it like a dirty raider. Also, a sidenote: The Black Lanner must be the absolute derpiest mech in the canon  E: No longer image leeching. Rivensteel fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Zaodai posted:It moved away from creepy furry pics to an awesome Hauptmann image. That should make it far less psyduck inducing, not more. Ponies seem exempt from anti-furry initiative these days.
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Rivensteel posted:The Clan doesn't really do skirmishers or guerrilla warfare, though, right? And they prefer single combat where you should not run away from your enemy or avoid their fire? That would seem to negate the advantages gained by using it like a dirty raider. Normally, yes. However, the Clans do approve of using your advantages to the fullest - if you're dancing around at long range and the other guy can't catch you, well, that's his drat fault for not being fast enough to catch you or smart enough to maneuver you into a bad position. You're engaging him just fine, he's just being a scrub for letting you get away with it.
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Rivensteel posted:The Clan doesn't really do skirmishers or guerrilla warfare, though, right? And they prefer single combat where you should not run away from your enemy or avoid their fire? That would seem to negate the advantages gained by using it like a dirty raider. Rivensteel posted:Also, a sidenote: The Black Lanner must be the absolute derpiest mech in the canon
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Arquinsiel posted:
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Nevets posted:
Exactly, how many other mechs look like a celebrating quail? Rivensteel fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Rivensteel posted:Exactly, how many other mechs look like a celebrating quail? I dunno, there's plenty of tragically derpy mechs. The ones that immediately come to mind...two of my favorite mechs, but also two of the most ridiculous:  LNX-9R Lynx  FLC-8R Falconer Fraction Jackson fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Fraction Jackson posted:
drat! If you don't notice the left arm, that picture makes the right one look like a big floppy donkey dick. Nevets fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 9, 2011 |
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Fraction Jackson posted:http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/5/54/3055u_Falconer.jpg/739px-3055u_Falconer.jpg FLC-8R Falconer This looks stompy and awesome but you shouldn't image leech
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Chronojam posted:This looks stompy and awesome but you shouldn't image leech I'll fix it in a sec. Edit: fixed. Fraction Jackson fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Rivensteel posted:Also, a sidenote: The Black Lanner must be the absolute derpiest mech in the canon The Black Lanner just looks like a cross between a Mad Dog and a Cauldron-Born, which are two of the better-looking 'mechs. There are way worse ones (e.g. pretty much anything from TRO 3055 or 3060).
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Chronojam posted:This looks stompy and awesome but you shouldn't image leech Same with the Black Lanner. Good heads up.
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The black lanner looks so bad. It looks like someone took the cartoon front end of a car and used as a groin and then stole the rest of the design from other mechs.
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KnoxZone posted:Same with the Black Lanner. Good heads up. Fixed, thanks for the notice.
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Mukaikubo posted:I do so love my Lynx and its goofy, heart-shaped cockpit window. Wow, that looks like a highly impressive mech for IS technology around the Clan invasion. When you remake it in equivalent Clan tech, it's really really nice.
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Nevets posted:drat! If you don't notice the left arm, that picture makes the right one look like a big floppy donkey dick. Probably best to remove the leech from the quote too
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Rivensteel posted:Wow, that looks like a highly impressive mech for IS technology around the Clan invasion. When you remake it in equivalent Clan tech, it's really really nice. The Lynx is one of the reintroduced designs that dates back to before the fall of the Star League. It was downgraded (at least those still in service) before the original model was made available again in 3056. It's a nice medium `Mech, good speed, maneuverability, and power for its size, esp for a non-clan `Mech.
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