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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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I'd love to be a mechwarrior, but I have problems following LPs with regularity sometimes, and is currently ridiculously busy. My inability to join in as a pilot makes me a terribly sad porpoise.

Despite loving being sponsored by the Highlanders in MW4: Mercs, I love the Federated Suns, and think having some freedom would be good. The Kell Hounds definitely have my vote.

Good luck, pilots! :)

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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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I voted for the Kell Hounds before, and now I'm adding my vote for the Griffin.

Good luck, Pilots.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Agent Interrobang posted:

DO IT. DO IT. DO IT. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. Seriously, best cartoon I've seen in years. Join the ranks of the faithful!

This reminds me of PoptartNinja's Star Trek LP.

The borg portion, specifically.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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If I may, I'd like to as a question. If the team fulfills primary mission objectives, does the mission end immediately, or can they continue to fulfill secondary objectives, as well?

Edit: Hey look an update. Awwwesome.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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raverrn posted:

Supposedly warfare in the future was pretty much hard science - stealth was key, if you saw it you hit it with a railgun and it died. Enter magic space armor - some kind of compound that was very, very resistant to kinetic damage and the only way to punch through was lasers or rapid consecutive impacts. All of a sudden you had to be within slugging distance of the enemy. Combine that with the development of artificial muscle that is very efficient and the benefits of locomotion and you get walking robots fighting it out at 200m.

But what about autocannons or gauss rifles?

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Arglebargle III posted:

I have a ridiculous image of an MMO now. "Yeah I rolled a new hill last night. Right now I'm grinding some talus, just you know basic sedimentary stuff. I think I'm gonna go volcano spec though. You?" "Oh you know, still working on my river system. I have to capture five more tributaries before I get Flood."

:golfclap: I'd love to see someone try that, and make it work. I'd probably play the hell out of it.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Dux Supremus posted:

Why would you pressurize anywhere but the cockpit on a land vehicle? In fact, why even that much? It'd make joints a bitch. Silly Inner Sphere...

e: Are there low-grav penalties too?

I think it was Mechwarrior 2 or 3 that had a completely underwater mission for Clan Ghost Bear.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Tarquinn posted:

Mechwarrior 2's intro is still the best. :colbert:

Scratch that. Found my new favourite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orhOvbfyyJw&NR

Apparantly there is a new Mechwarrior game in development. Pre Clans era. :monocle:

Unfortunately there is some sort of legal dispute with some anime company that is freezing development. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Pladdicus posted:

Woohoo! I say we go for it!

I hope you mean the secondary objective, and not the one on one duel. That was a very nice shot, though. :)

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Goddamn ballistic weaponry are so heavy ALWAYS. I have a hard time not tearing them off and replacing them with energy or missile weapons.

Which means that my mech slumps over in the middle of battle a bit too often...

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Poptartsninja. You have no idea how many times I've been checking this thread in the last 5 minutes thanks to your last two comments. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Longinus00 posted:

The vulcan got really lucky there. If he hadn't crited, with his flamer of all things, he'd be pretty screwed right now. Also, our jenner rolled a six 4 times!

So close...soooo cloooose. What are you guys going to do with the damaged, prone Vulcan with a magnificent hole in it?

Edit: Update on previous page. Worst 1st page post ever.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Agent Interrobang posted:

All told, though, this is a pretty solid result. The enemy is down their highest-firepower mech after the Dragon, our Vulcan is hurt but certainly not out of the fight, and everyone else is absolutely fine. We have the Dracs at half firepower, with better positioning and better long-range firepower in the form of our Griffin.

I vote next turn we keep up the pace. Let's teach these Kurita dupes what happens when you toss fresh meat to Morgan Kell's dogs.

A question. Doesn't the Vulcan's lack of armor make it so that it is now supremely vulnerable to critical hits from, say, SRMs?

Edit: Answered. Thanks.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jan 27, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Axe-man posted:

We need to get a few people together to play a match,since it is free now it is even easier for everyone to get :jihad:

Oh! Yes definitely. I've been tooling around in a Marauder, loaded up with 3 PPCs, 2 Heavy Medium Lasers, and 1 ER Medium Pulse Laser for tanks and choppers. It is super fun, and relatively good at sniping holes in torsos. I'm not very good, though. Still get my rear end handed to me more often than I'd like on Regular difficulty. There isn't a thread for Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries, right? I want to see what builds other people use.

Edit: I've never liked using ballistic weapons; they seem a bit too heavy for me. Plus, ammo issues are terrible since I have terrible aim in that game.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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ShadowDragon8685 posted:


Order everyone (including her) to focus their fire? Sure, no problem. :downs:

She seems to always be in a foul mood when she's responding to your orders, though. Or just really really laconic.

Edit:

Gothsheep posted:

However, I don't want to derail the thread to an MW4:Merc talk...Especially when Wargames still has a thread on that game.

Wait, poo poo. Really? Oops.

I can't find it. Can someone provide a link, please? :saddowns:


2x Edit: VVVVVVVVV Is it in the archives now?

Artificer fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jan 29, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Arglebargle III posted:

I think she was voiced by the same actor who did the laconic southerner pilot too. Maybe you're getting them confused or the actor let them bleed together a little?

Honestly if you were a Jade Falcon Star Colonel I doubt you would be very pleased to go work for a mercenary franchise for the rest of your life.

There's a laconic southerner pilot? Huh. Never hired her, I think. And true, I doubt she'd be pleased.

I like placing interesting sounding pilots in my lances just for their amusing comments. Claymore, Black Jack, and such.

Edit: Beat the game for the 2nd time today (once again on regular). Missed a couple missions that I did last run, maybe because I did some Steiner missions I didn't do before? In any case they wouldn't unlock for me. I miss that one fun one where you have to run in to a base after your allies distract the defenders, scan two buildings, and then run like hell while the turrets all turn around and open up on you.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Axe-man posted:

Try it stock guys and learn the fun of rocking mechs with actual disadvantages :c00l:

I think the only way I managed to beat the game on regular twice was thanks to customizing mechs that fit my playstyle....and that may or may not have been completely broken. :downs:

Edit: Maybe I should do a stock only run. Perhaps on a higher difficulty. With the Highlanders, of course, since I need the extra dough to fund my constant repairs.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Defiance Industries posted:

Defiance Industries does actually have a regiment-sized private army of mechs (and other stuff) that are top-quality. This is not standard operating procedure, but Hesperus II has been sieged fifteen times.

Giant factory of war equipment = Prime military target, after all.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jan 29, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Defiance Industries posted:

Well, any factory is. DefHes is a particular target because it's the biggest single factory in the Inner Sphere, and the second-most industrial output of any system but Terra. On top of that, it is one jump from Terra, so it could conceivably be attacked by any of the other four Houses (though really, only Kurita and Marik try to capture the place).

Doesn't it currently belong to Steiner? I remember some missions in Mercenaries that revolved around it.

Edit: On a somewhat related note, does anyone know how to get an avatar? Like, I need someone to help me make it, since I'm not sure how.... I sort of want to get a Jenner. Or Marauder. Or something. Also, I have PM so you can PM me. :) Maybe I'll join in on the festivities on this thread later.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jan 29, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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PoptartsNinja posted:

... Wow, the Griffin's luck on the LRM table amazes me.

I love PoptartsNinja's tantalizing little comments. So...f5-inducing.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Tempest_56 posted:

See though, this is one of the things I like about the current writers. They've been taking steps to bring into canon all the non-canon stuff, like the Mechwarrior games and such. I was actually pretty drat happy when I found that the Crescent Hawks are fully canonical now.

Oooch. If this is true, then I'd love to see Spectre and Castle appear someplace canon. It's too bad that neither of them are really well developed. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Wow our Vulcan is in some serious trouble. That Hussar has got to go. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Tempest_56 posted:

So half the thread goes "Kill the Hussar, it's weak but has enough firepower to murder all of you if he feels like it." Then nobody bothers to shoot the Hussar, instead opening up on the Spider which poses nearly no threat at all.

Seriously guys. Kill the god damned Hussar. He can outmaneuver you, outrange most of you, and has ridiculous shooting skill. He's only peeled half the Vulcan apart and you've been lucky. If you do not put it down ASAP at least one of you will be walking home.

Which mech has the highest chance of dying next turn? Spider or Hussar? Can the Vulcan afford to take another turn of fire from the Hussar?

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Yeah, we cannot fight the Hussar where it is - it just moves to fast and the guy is a great shot. We need to suck him into the terrain south of the lake, so why don't we pull back behind the Hill in 1011.

Then we can overcome our gunnery and movement disadvantage by attacking him in close at short range.

Won't he just run for the dropship, scout it out, and invalidate the entire mission?

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Tempest_56 posted:

The Spider technically has a higher chance of dying. It has ammo and has been punched internal in two places. However, the Spider has almost half the effective range and firepower of the Hussar and is much slower.

As for surviving another turn of fire? The Hussar does 8 points in a hit. The Vulcan has 7 points of armor left on his Left Torso. Which means that the next time the Hussar hits the Vulcan's LT, he will be rolling a crit chance versus the machine gun ammo there. And one more hit to the RT from either direction will destroy it, reducing the Vulcan's firepower to a single medium laser and a machine gun. At this point, it's likely to get at least two more shots, which means that it could also open up either of the Vulcan's legs or the CT. The Vulcan stands a not unreasonable chance of being destroyed or severely crippled on the next hit and is probably going to be shot at least twice more.

Well drat. Fall back and make a run for it, St. Croix! :ohdear:

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Arglebargle III posted:

Sorry to derail (hide your mechs, guys, it's a 25 ton light!) but is there any chance of getting Mechwarrior 4: Vengeance or Mercenaries to run on a 64 bit platform?

Doing it right now on a Windows 7 x64 laptop. :) Mercenaries, at least.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Cthulhu Dreams posted:


That's a fairly massive success.

..... we're pretty undergunned - you typically want overwhelming force, or massive artillery support.

I suppose if it does make a run for the dropship that'll make the secondary objective impossible and make it a good reason for the rest of you to run like hell.

Maybe after dropping the spider and dragon for possible loot?

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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ShadowDragon8685 posted:


And even in BTech, a machine gun is a machine gun is a machine gun... They've always been described that way, and if you watch the Mechwarrior 5 trailer, that Warhammer's unloading with his MGs, and they're spanging off that Atlas' armor just as you'd expect them to, not rippling little bursts of fire.


Which begs the question of why the Warhammer pilot even bothered shooting the Atlas with machine gun bullets...poor man's lance was getting chewed up all around him, and then his own mech goes kaplooie. :(

Edit: ^^^^ I'm having a hard time imagining even 12 machine guns doing anything useful against things that are not tanks or infantry...

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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ShadowDragon8685 posted:


As for the joys of machine gun abuse...



Oh that makes sense. I think I mixed up this with the Mechwarrior games, because I recall trying to machine gun boat there, and it......didn't work very well.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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ShadowDragon8685 posted:


Because the Mechwarrior games don't have criticals, Through Armor or otherwise. :)

There is good reason in MW4:Mercs that the very first thing I do is strip off all the MGs and sell them.

Yeah, I've started doing that too. I've been using heavy medium lasers and ER PPCs for tank/helicopter killing (overkill I know), but I've had range problems with the heavy mediums, and an ER large laser is 3 tons heavier....3 tons that I need in heat sinks. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Defiance Industries posted:

[dons cardigan]

Just doing my job.

Which reminds me. For some reason after doing the first mission on Hesperus II in Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries, it won't let me do the Davion missions even though Davion loves me and my nobility is through the roof. :(

I have a question. If mechs are so hard to build and design, does that basically mean that battlemech is a stagnant field, and every mech lost is a mech that is lost forever?

Edit: Terrible first page post.

Edit x2: Ahh. Many thanks.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 3, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Defiance Industries posted:

Hesperus and Talon are the big blowup points in that game. Working for one side on either world results in your opposing side blacklisting you.

But when I get to Hesperus for the very first time, not having even gone to Talon, I only see one mission, "Escort." After doing that it heads straight into the Steiner campaign, unless I go to Talon and do the Davion missions.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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anakha posted:

F - Caballeros, gently caress yeah. :ese:

Oh poo poo I forgot the vote was still on.

Voting for F, the Caballeros :)

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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W.T. Fits posted:


At least until the GDL gets the Hel- ...oh, right. :ohdear:

What the hell there's no stopping Commstar now. :(

Unless we find a core ourselves, and then the goons get to decide what to do with it, fight Commstar all the w-


Wait a second. Holy poo poo. God I hope we get to do something like this. :allears:

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Ahahahahah. Nothing to see here, move along. :)

Artificer fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Feb 3, 2011

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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ShadowDragon8685 posted:

Oh man, poo poo just got real.

:ohdear:

Yeah, no kidding. A time limit is going to be tough, especially against better shooting Capellans. Our pilots' stats don't seem to have any particular bonuses for piloting though, I thought the Caballeros were supposed to be great pilots but terrible shots?

Also, protect the Wolverine and the Catapult. They're our best chance to take the Capellans out before too many hostages die. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Zaodai posted:

So the Steiner missions tend to be "I shoot them in the head while walking to the objective, then shoot them in the head on the way out".
Plus, it makes you a horrible murderer!

Thing is I think it's really hard to pull off a headshot; everytime I aim for the black window/cockpit I seem to instead deal damage to the central torso even when I seem to have hit the window. Of course with 4 PPCs and some heavy lasers hitting the chest in a constant effort kills the mech fast anyways....but I'd like some pointers on finding the head.

Edit:

Zaodai posted:

I was honestly never a fan of the Atlas. The Daishi is clearly the better 100 tonner in MW4/Mercs

The Daishi has an enormous center torso with the nose, it seems. When I pilot a Daishi I'm often blinking red on the torso while my other components are mostly untouched.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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WarLocke posted:

I'd suggest our guys pick one or the other (Blackjack is closer, but not as dangerous as the Vindicator) and tear-rear end at it, and try to at least cripple it before the heavier mechs and vehicles can enter the fray.

As soon as those vehicles get within weapon range they need to die, though. All of them, but especially the SRM carrier.

I'd like to agree with this. If the Blackjack doesn't have sufficient firepower to deal substantial damage, then we should leave it alone to take down the more dangerous foes. Damage their damage-dealing potential as fast, as much as possible before the party really starts.


PoptartsNinja posted:

Guys, this isn't really the best thread to be discussing Mechwarrior 4 mercenaries. I know I've been really lenient, because I love seeing battletech get the attention it deserves, but Bunnyofdoom wanted some advice on his first move.

Sorry. :(

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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PoptartsNinja posted:

Oooh, that's gonna hurt...

Goddammit! This is going to be a running theme in all of your LPs, isn't it? :f5:

Someone got a TAC from the Warhammer's PPC, right?

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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

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Oh man. That was a crazy amount of damage on both sides. I have absolutely noooo idea who is winning now... :ohdear:

Go, Mexicans, Go!

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