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Here's a thing - when I run YPAO it always insists that my front speakers are out of phase. I know this is a thing that it can be wrong about and can be ignored, but when I do switch the polarity it's happy and no longer complains. However, subjectively this way is obviously wrong (stuff sounds like it's coming from within my own head rather than from a soundstage in front of me when I play through multiple channels). Also I can touch my fingers on the driver of (say) front left and my center and it's definitely in phase with the standard wiring that YPAO doesn't like. So I knew YPAO could be wrong about the phase but I didn't know it would actually prefer and not complain about the incorrect phase?
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SgtScruffy posted:This might be a question similar to one asked earlier:
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If you can’t find an airport express there’s a new device called the Wiim Mini that acts as an airport endpoint.
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Airport Expresses (Expressi?) are unbelievably common on eBay and the like, I wouldn't go shelling out $100 for that or the Belkin thing when there's a cheap first party solution. e: assuming you don't care about 24/192 audio, which goons performatively do not.
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Crossposting from the high-definition televisions thread since it turned out to be more of an audio system problem:Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ok, tech support question. Ok, I think I figured out the problem here; it's the Denon receiver messing up the HDMI handshake. I think I need a HDMI splitter so I can split the signal from the GPU and send it to both the stereo and the c1 oled monitor independently, instead of routing to the monitor through the reciever. Any suggestions on a good 4k HDMI splitter? Comically, my GPU has one HDMI out and 3 displayport outs, while the tv and reciever have no displayport ins. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 20, 2022 |
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Can you connect the PC directly to the C1 and then use eARC to pass the audio to the receiver? Should work if you can set the TV audio to passthrough instead of PCM. Also might want to check if you're on the latest firmware for your receiver just in case there's an HDMI update.
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Get a DisplayPort --> HDMI adapter to run the video signal, maybe? Cheap to try at least
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CloFan posted:Get a DisplayPort --> HDMI adapter to run the video signal, maybe? Cheap to try at least Hrm, yeah, this seems worth trying. Thanks.
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pofcorn posted:Do what sounds best to you. Well this kept bugging me and I kept messing with it and last night I found this page on Focal's website (not the maker of my speakers but probably a similar situation). What's happening is that in the front towers as part of the crossover design that the phase of the tweeters is reversed and YPAO is picking up on that. But apparently the correct thing to do instead of just keeping them wired correctly and ignoring the warning is to reverse the polarity temporarily during the calibration and then put it back to normal afterwards, which isn't advice I've seen elsewhere yet. So that's what I ended up doing and it sounds good. But honestly part of the trouble is no matter how I set it up it sounds miles better than anything else I've listened to previously so it's a little hard to judge objectively, which isn't a terrible problem to have.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Crossposting from the high-definition televisions thread since it turned out to be more of an audio system problem: This is almost exactly what was happening to me. I had computer w/3060ti output to older Onkyo Tx-NR838 to a samsung q70, and many times with transitions in browser, it would lag and go to black screen when switching beteen pages, video to not video, changes in ad playing vs text browsing, like it couldn't handle the viedo parameters changing without doing another HDMI handshake and the screen going to black for a couple seconds. Oddly, it would work just fine if I set the output resolution from the computer to 1080p instead of 4k. But gently caress that I spent all this money on 4k TV gimme Switched to computer>TV>earc to reciever, and it works beautifully now
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intheflesh posted:This is almost exactly what was happening to me. I had computer w/3060ti output to older Onkyo Tx-NR838 to a samsung q70, and many times with transitions in browser, it would lag and go to black screen when switching beteen pages, video to not video, changes in ad playing vs text browsing, like it couldn't handle the viedo parameters changing without doing another HDMI handshake and the screen going to black for a couple seconds. Oddly, it would work just fine if I set the output resolution from the computer to 1080p instead of 4k. But gently caress that I spent all this money on 4k TV gimme Yeah, I couldn't figure out how to make eArc passthrough from the tv to the receiver actually work, but buying a $20 DisplayPort in to HDMI out cable and having the TV display that feed while the receiver gets its sound from the hdmi out via a hdmi cable worked.
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I had to turn off either ARC or CEC on my Hisense to do this - in my case because my old-rear end reciever can only do 4k30 and no eARC. Found that every time I switched the tv to the PC input it would automatically flick the receivers input to ARC. Frustrating. Then I got a Series X, and now just use regular old ARC with Dolby Digital until I eventually get off my rear end and find a cheap second hand 4k60 receiver.
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Here’s a funny question. I just got a subwoofer. It is great, but I’m concerned about the impact on my neighbors, so I’m keeping it quiet. However, I realized that while turning the sub down is a great way to make content with too much bass listenable even late at night, it also makes stuff with quiet bass have even less bass for basically no reason. Is there any device I can buy that would fix this problem for me by compressing lower frequencies? Are there audio receivers that do that, or can I buy something else that would sit between my receiver and the sub to do the job?
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nrook posted:Here’s a funny question. I just got a subwoofer. It is great, but I’m concerned about the impact on my neighbors, so I’m keeping it quiet. However, I realized that while turning the sub down is a great way to make content with too much bass listenable even late at night, it also makes stuff with quiet bass have even less bass for basically no reason. Is there any device I can buy that would fix this problem for me by compressing lower frequencies? Are there audio receivers that do that, or can I buy something else that would sit between my receiver and the sub to do the job? Yamaha receivers have had a “loudness” feature for many decades that basically scoops out the mids in order to make lower volume music sound “louder” to somebody nearby for precisely that sort of late night listening. If you can try to determine how your sub sounds to your neighbors then maybe you can find the optimal setting among all of your various volume dials (the ones on the sub, on the receiver, etc) for everybody
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Alternatively ask them if it's bothering them so you can tweak your kit to the benefit of both of you. Guy next door treated himself to a dual sub setup and it got quite raucous at times while he was setting it all up. He asked if I could hear it, I told him it's a little loud and he adjusted it all down and now I barely hear anything.
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Would adjusting the crossover on the sub help any? Maybe?
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Aug 29, 2022 00:32
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SVS sells sound isolation feet you may be able to screw in that help reduce those kinds of vibrations.
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Yeah, I’m going to do all the basic stuff, like installing isolation feet and consulting with neighbors about how much sound transfers. I just figured I’d ask if something like this existed as well, since it seems philosophically like a better solution than just turning the sub down or off at night.
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Mozi posted:SVS sells sound isolation feet you may be able to screw in that help reduce those kinds of vibrations. These actually work quite well, in my experience. I have an SB12 in a third floor apartment and haven't received any noise complaints in the 5 years I've lived here 
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Most AV receivers have some sort of compression function. For Audyssey it's called Dynamic Volume, and it works really well. I basically watch all movies and TV shows on the "day" setting.
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28 days into my 30 day return window, my Yamaha RX-A6A developed random chirps and regular electrical clicking noises through the left front pre-out (lots of testing reduced it to this specifically). Warranty would have covered a repair but that would have left me without a receiver for a while. Obviously can't be sure what caused this but given the various stories of difficulties of manufacturing things during the pandemic, I would be incredibly leery of buying equipment like this with no return option and especially with no warranty. I was happy with it otherwise but now I think I'll try Anthem instead.
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That sucks but at least you caught it in time. Shame that relatively higher end stuff doesn't have better QC.
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Yeah; the issue actually seems to be related to having the wi-fi on or not. Which had been fine previously. Edit: wow, figured it out at the very last second. As I was beginning to remove it I thought 'what if I twist the wifi antenna around a little bit...' and lo and behold the problem only happens when the antenna is pointed in a certain direction - not right up against the chassis or anything or even touching any other wires but just a certain general vicinity causes the issue. It must have gotten nudged around a bit as I was moving something else. So, there you go. Glad to not have to really change anything. Edit again: Even though I had figured out this issue I had my replacement AVR on hand already (Anthem MRX 740) and figured I'd just try it out anyways. The initial setup process was more annoying in a few different ways (no way to connect to wifi with WPA, needed Google Home app on phone?  ) but ARC Genesis (their room correction software) absolutely blows Yamaha's out of the water. You get a legit microphone and nice stand for it. It set all my crossovers correctly right off the bat, made the lower midrange/upper bass perfect instead of killing it like YPAO does, shows you all the graphs and the phase correction made everything clearer and more distinct. Toggling it on and off, it's like putting on and taking off my eyeglasses. When I put up some room treatment in my room I noticed a difference afterwards - more than I had expected. And this was an even bigger improvement. No changes necessary from its default results, I increased room gain based on personal preference but that's all. (And it was again nice here that I could use the room gain setting to boost that whole part of the curve instead of in YPAO where you'd need to just crank the subwoofer level.) Also you can save one set (or multiple sets) of measurements and tweak and apply settings based on that as much as you want without needing to re-run the measurements. I'm really impressed and I'm going to send the Yamaha back. I'm not sure the Anthem is really 'worth' the extra money (lots of money... and no balanced front pre-out which is a small bummer) but I don't think I can go back to YPAO.On a different topic, I figured out why DSU upmixing was only sending upmixed data to my height speakers and not to center/surrounds - the source was my PC which was set to 5.1, so when it was playing stereo music it was still sending out the center and surround channel info, so the upmixer wasn't touching them. Had to set the PC to stereo to get it all going again. But honestly the effect with it leaving the fronts alone and putting some noise up in the heights wasn't bad either, maybe a personal preference thing. I've also noticed with Qobuz that playing through Wasapi Exclusive sounds noticeably better than Wasapi. Can I make the regular Wasapi sound better though using E-APO? Mozi fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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PSA: Jamo S803 are $118 per pair right now on the Bezos hellsite
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Mozi posted:I've also noticed with Qobuz that playing through Wasapi Exclusive sounds noticeably better than Wasapi. Can I make the regular Wasapi sound better though using E-APO?
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How do I go about picking a center channel speaker? I just have KLH Model 5s and an SVS PB1000 Pro connected to a Denon AVR-S760H.
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Ideally you match the timbre of the center to the L/R fronts (maybe even use the same speaker if possible). I'm not that familiar with KLH but a quick browse of their offerings revealed that the only center channel they offer is not matched to the 5. Another 5 is probably overkill and may not fit with your room setup given their size. If you just want it for HT to hear dialogue better etc. then I'd probably recommend that KLH Story center (it will likely be closer than what other brands offer) or to see what other people who have the 5s run in a 3.1 setup.
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phosdex posted:How do I go about picking a center channel speaker? I just have KLH Model 5s and an SVS PB1000 Pro connected to a Denon AVR-S760H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrdsxrcpBw&t=1680s timestamped to the tldr part of the video aparmenideanmonad posted:Ideally you match the timbre of the center to the L/R fronts (maybe even use the same speaker if possible). Having three KLH Model 5s as your LCR would look really cool imo, provided you had the space for it(and also a way to buy them as a single speaker) CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Oct 22, 2022 |
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I'll just get a KLH Story. Hah, another 5 would be hard to fit.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrdsxrcpBw&t=1680s timestamped to the tldr part of the video Where can I find this "data" he's talking about
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Where can I find this "data" he's talking about Earlier in the video, starting at 18mins. If you want to look at some other reviews / kippel nearfield scanner data he's done(not too many more center channels though), you can look on his website or just watch his youtube videos. Amir from audiosciencereview has measured some center channels as well.
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phosdex posted:I'll just get a KLH Story. Hah, another 5 would be hard to fit. put a 5 on its side do it I’m not kidding
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It's finally time to get my downstairs some decent audio. Budget: $1000-$1300. Would like to be closer to the 1k Use: Mixed. Xbox One X for games and movies. Phone or inbuilt app connect for music. I would like 5.1. But would settle for quality 3.1 with 5.1 or even 7.1/Atmos upgrade path in the future Need the whole setup. Receiver and app. No spare equipment to move to this setup.
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Wait for Black Friday and there’ll be some rad sales for speakers. Get the best rated ones within your budget. That’s what I did.
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Vegetable posted:Wait for Black Friday and there’ll be some rad sales for speakers. Get the best rated ones within your budget. That’s what I did. I do appreciate this sentiment. But I need more specific recommendations or I will just go down rabbit holes and spend far more money than I have too. Plus I have very little time to deep dive. If I start digging I won't be able to make a purchase for a long time heh I trust the experience of those who really get into this stuff to guide me. *Edit* case in point. The Samsung q990b is rated really well. And after a year of himming and hawing I bought it today .... It is trash. The sub is tuned badly and makes loud snaps. The audio is super tinny with no real presence. And I am generally just disappointed. On the other hand this thread hooked me up with my first home theatre setup many moons ago. And I am still very happy with the equipment suggested. However that equipment is now 8ish years old. And I would not mind the new setup being modernized. Kilazar fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Kilazar posted:It's finally time to get my downstairs some decent audio. That’s not a ton of money for an “upgrade” setup. At the cheapest you might be looking at $350-500 for a receiver depending on the number of channels/etc, and then that leaves you $500-900 (and probably closer to $500 if you want to stick to the low end of your desired spending limit) for a subwoofer and full set of speakers. Totally doable, but definitely at the “budget” end of every company’s range. And that may be fine for your needs depending on what you’re upgrading from. If you have speakers or a sub (or even an old receiver with 5.1 and an optical line in, if you can’t run a 4K signal through its HDMI/it doesn’t have any HDMI) that you can bring over, even if only temporarily, you could stretch that budget quite a bit further/piecemeal a much more premium setup over more time. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Oh I am not upgrading my current setup. I am getting a setup for the living room TV. And budget is fine. Last time around the thread hooked me up with a 500 dollar Onkyo, the polk 10'sub, a pair of Andrew Jones towers, a pair of Andrew Jones bookshelf's, and Andrew Jones center for about 1200.. I thought about buying all that again but figured maybe some better stuff is around in the budget area Kilazar fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Kilazar posted:Oh I am not upgrading my current setup. I am getting a setup for the living room TV. Oh word. You can definitely do better and play in a similar ballpark pricewise now. Andrew Jones went to ELAC for a few years and that’s where the spiritual successors to those Pioneers all live. I’d probably go with some ELACs or Q Series KEFs (soon to be very on sale for Black Friday) or Reference Premium Klipsch if you can stretch that far. Or maybe JBL Stage (wait for them to be discounted, almost certainly will be on Black Friday) or even Triangle Borea at their new lower price ($250-350 for a new pair of BR03 seems to be an acceptable cost these days, do not pay $500). Also look at Q Acoustic (maybe a bit pricey, maybe can be had on sale) and even Polk is making good poo poo these days. I would go ahead and look past Jamo at the lowest price point. Sure they’re great if you can land a full 5.0 set at <$250 or even $150 and that’s your max budget, but they don’t really hold up to anybody else’s budget offerings in the ~$200/pair and up range.
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I got some ELAC B5s and was seriously disappointed by them. They sound flat, small, and lifeless. The Paradigm Mini Monitors from the early 2000s I got for free massively outperform them.
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