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Fozzy The Bear posted:Just to be clear and not confuse the OP. I have the Seirra-1 V1, you have the Seirra-2 V2, I'm recommending the Seirra-1 V2, but the Seirra-2 V2 is what you recommend. Goddammit that's basically what I meant EXCEPT I realize I have the Sierra-2 V1 lol. Bought it when it premiered.
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# ? Apr 24, 2025 14:15 |
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Thanks for recommendations. I am not opposed to second hand so I will be keeping my eye out. Speaking of second hand I came across a Linn Sizmik 10.25 subwoofer (ahem a "Bass Reinforcement Loudspeaker) for very cheap. Solid sealed overbuild box, very different beast than the Klipsch. This sub notoriously has issues with the built in amp so I knew going in that I would have to get creative if I got it.This thing was at least $1500 new at the turn of the century and has some pretty impressive specs compared to anything else I have played around with: 25 litres. 9Hz - 220Hz frequency response Construction 38mm and 19mm MDF cabinet, horizontally braced. Balanced veneers 500w/1000w (supposedly) power handling I have a small subwoofer amp that claims 300w but that is at 4 ohm so it probably puts out ~120w RMS into the measured 7.5 ohm of the driver. Regardless, it puts out enough power to see what the driver can do. I did a few quick and dirty tests with the setup I currently have: Klipsch is attached to the Sony DH590 still, signal from HDMI, no EQ or room correction. Sizmik signal from analog on motherboard, no EQ applied. Eventually I will use Equalizer APO on this setup, this data is just quick and dirty for now: ![]() The Linn can actually hit frequencies lower than I tested for, even at those DBs it makes your eyeballs vibrate around 20hz. This has been a fun project so far, will be interesting to see how things look after I integrate the rest of the system.
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I've been getting into Atmos music on my home theater, and its really great. The only problem is that Atmos tracks are all over the place on volume (I use MacOS connected via HDMI 2.1) and it's kinda ruining my life. Sound Check (the thing that's supposed to equalize volume between tracks) is simply not working, presumably because the delta in volume is extreme. Any thoughts? The average Atmos track is several DB quieter than my non atmos stuff so if I forget to adjust the volume between listening systems it blows out my poo poo on whatever the next non-atmos source is.
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Try using the similar equalization feature on your receiver (assuming you have one as part of your home theater setup) This also might be better in quick audio questions thread but I don’t know that it makes much difference
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I've had a set of little Mackie monitors and an old Sony 100W sub hooked up to my TV, replaced them with Klipsch R-40PM bookshelves and an R-121SW to handle the lows. Running TOSLINK to the R-40PMs, using their subwoofer out to the sub in its auto-on mode so I don't have to mess with it. It's been the upgrade I hoped it would. I've had Klipsch speakers before and these have a similar "house sound" but a little less treble forward/mids back than I've heard previously, maybe helped by the redesigned horn and pretty large cabinet for the driver size. Their blend with the R-121SW is nice, in the pocket, all sounding "together." I had a friend back in college that used to use 3-4" speakers to make really good sounding folded horn cabinets that would get wicked loud, which did contribute to deciding to try a 4" woofer model in the first place. I like how they sound with music, movies, and games. Part of me does wonder if I'd be happier if I spent the extra to get the 5.25" driver model, I mean, the physics are on the side of that woofer being able to do more I guess, and it also has a big cabinet for its relative size (think it actually added 27% over last gen, compared to ~25% more volume for the R-40PM vs the R-41PM that preceded them). But I dunno, what they are giving is pleasing me so far, and at that price (~$500) it seems like it starts to be a good idea to look into separate amp and bookshelf setups. Overall the R-40PMs are delivering what I expected and I'm not certain I could get an easier to manage setup as far as controlling it from one thing that sounds conclusively better going separate amp and bookshelves for under $300 (but I could be wrong!). The Klipsch having the DAC integrated, SW control integrated, all with one remote is convenient for me. I will hang onto the box while I'm in the return window, but initial impression is they sound good and tonally are about like I expected, maybe a little better actually as the highs aren't quite as hyped as some Klipsch bookshelves I've heard but still detailed and they certainly smoke the three pairs of smaller monitors I have on hand for powered stereo. They might even be more pleasing with some music than my Yamaha HS8s, though 1. HS8s are for being analytic, not musical, and 2. obviously with more power and 8" woofers the Yamahas bring some frequencies to the party the much smaller Klipsch bookshelves can't. With the sub backing the R-40PMs though, they more than make it up in the lows (HS8 still have more distinct treble, but for ~$300 with everything integrated the R-40PM are doing pretty good IMO). The sub is badass and I will definitely be keeping it regardless, huge huge upgrade over my old Sony. Enormously better quality of bass sound & distinctness/speed, and room-shaking amount comparatively speaking. It's a lot more musical than the Sony was, less diffuse boomy rumble and more powerful bass impact. Perhaps due to the crossover being right in the speakers and being able to adjust the relative level easily, as mentioned it gels very nicely with the bookshelves. Edit: A lightbulb came on that I don't actually need the DAC, EQ, preamp integrated because I can use some stuff I have on hand for those. So, to see where things really stand, I'm going to try some RP-600M (around the same price atm, as they're discontinued), using a Class D amp with solid if not incredible specs, fed from my Schiit stack! I will find out if the difference between the R- series and the RP- series, & the bigger drivers and all that are worth it for me. Agreed fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 21, 2025 |
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Physics wins, R-40PM going back & RP-600M staying. It's not a small difference. In fact it is a one-sided rear end-kicking and the RP-600M are swinging the hammer. Nonetheless the R-40PM are kickass smaller powered bookshelves if space and compactness of features are a premium, would have loved them in my dorm back in the day. RP-600M respond really well to EQ, I'm finding, you can dial them in just right boosting around 2K and pulling back some of the high frequencies. Little boost in the lower midrange if ya like (I like). They're smoking the HS8 monitors for enjoyment listening. Really pleased with these, I would recommend them, double if you have a way to EQ, if you're looking for some bookshelves around $300 that sound good. Agreed fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Apr 23, 2025 |
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# ? Apr 24, 2025 14:15 |
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Absolutely, at any volume you can just hear they're bigger. Where the R-40PM was pretty cleverly engineered with DSP that dynamically EQs and exploits its resonance to fill out some holes in the lower mids and bass, this just has 'em, and it sure is a difference. I don't want to crap on the little speakers too much because they're little though, they sounded good for what they are. I am impressed with this Aiyima AO7 Premium amplifier too. At the levels I can stand to listen / won't get angry neighbor visits with, it sounds great with these.
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