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I've had a set of little Mackie monitors and an old Sony 100W sub hooked up to my TV, replaced them with Klipsch R-40PM bookshelves and an R-121SW to handle the lows. Running TOSLINK to the R-40PMs, using their subwoofer out to the sub in its auto-on mode so I don't have to mess with it. It's been the upgrade I hoped it would. I've had Klipsch speakers before and these have a similar "house sound" but a little less treble forward/mids back than I've heard previously, maybe helped by the redesigned horn and pretty large cabinet for the driver size. Their blend with the R-121SW is nice, in the pocket, all sounding "together." I had a friend back in college that used to use 3-4" speakers to make really good sounding folded horn cabinets that would get wicked loud, which did contribute to deciding to try a 4" woofer model in the first place. I like how they sound with music, movies, and games. Part of me does wonder if I'd be happier if I spent the extra to get the 5.25" driver model, I mean, the physics are on the side of that woofer being able to do more I guess, and it also has a big cabinet for its relative size (think it actually added 27% over last gen, compared to ~25% more volume for the R-40PM vs the R-41PM that preceded them). But I dunno, what they are giving is pleasing me so far, and at that price (~$500) it seems like it starts to be a good idea to look into separate amp and bookshelf setups. Overall the R-40PMs are delivering what I expected and I'm not certain I could get an easier to manage setup as far as controlling it from one thing that sounds conclusively better going separate amp and bookshelves for under $300 (but I could be wrong!). The Klipsch having the DAC integrated, SW control integrated, all with one remote is convenient for me. I will hang onto the box while I'm in the return window, but initial impression is they sound good and tonally are about like I expected, maybe a little better actually as the highs aren't quite as hyped as some Klipsch bookshelves I've heard but still detailed and they certainly smoke the three pairs of smaller monitors I have on hand for powered stereo. They might even be more pleasing with some music than my Yamaha HS8s, though 1. HS8s are for being analytic, not musical, and 2. obviously with more power and 8" woofers the Yamahas bring some frequencies to the party the much smaller Klipsch bookshelves can't. With the sub backing the R-40PMs though, they more than make it up in the lows (HS8 still have more distinct treble, but for ~$300 with everything integrated the R-40PM are doing pretty good IMO). The sub is badass and I will definitely be keeping it regardless, huge huge upgrade over my old Sony. Enormously better quality of bass sound & distinctness/speed, and room-shaking amount comparatively speaking. It's a lot more musical than the Sony was, less diffuse boomy rumble and more powerful bass impact. Perhaps due to the crossover being right in the speakers and being able to adjust the relative level easily, as mentioned it gels very nicely with the bookshelves. Edit: A lightbulb came on that I don't actually need the DAC, EQ, preamp integrated because I can use some stuff I have on hand for those. So, to see where things really stand, I'm going to try some RP-600M (around the same price atm, as they're discontinued), using a Class D amp with solid if not incredible specs, fed from my Schiit stack! I will find out if the difference between the R- series and the RP- series, & the bigger drivers and all that are worth it for me. Agreed fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 21, 2025 |
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Physics wins, R-40PM going back & RP-600M staying. It's not a small difference. In fact it is a one-sided rear end-kicking and the RP-600M are swinging the hammer. Nonetheless the R-40PM are kickass smaller powered bookshelves if space and compactness of features are a premium, would have loved them in my dorm back in the day. RP-600M respond really well to EQ, I'm finding, you can dial them in just right boosting around 2K and pulling back some of the high frequencies. Little boost in the lower midrange if ya like (I like). They're smoking the HS8 monitors for enjoyment listening. Really pleased with these, I would recommend them, double if you have a way to EQ, if you're looking for some bookshelves around $300 that sound good. Agreed fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Apr 23, 2025 |
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Absolutely, at any volume you can just hear they're bigger. Where the R-40PM was pretty cleverly engineered with DSP that dynamically EQs and exploits its resonance to fill out some holes in the lower mids and bass, this just has 'em, and it sure is a difference. I don't want to crap on the little speakers too much because they're little though, they sounded good for what they are. I am impressed with this Aiyima AO7 Premium amplifier too. At the levels I can stand to listen / won't get angry neighbor visits with, it sounds great with these.
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Edit: I've still got a lot to learn about this stuff - I want to try one of those Speedwoofers some time, I don't have enough experience with different subs to say too much on reflection... I picked one that had good group delay because I've prioritized that in the past, with solid behavior 30-80hz (and on sale at the time!). I think low group delay helps the sub and the mains come together, but those Speedwoofers have really good frequency response especially for their size & looks like pretty robust features too. I bet I would like it too.
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mariooncrack posted:So...prices are probably going to go up because of this? Even before we get to "because they try to profit more any way possible" as a reason, given the prevailing trade conditions, prices are for sure going up right now in the USA, which, because of the size of its economy and the way that trade and transport are interconnected, will have inevitable knock-on effects in all markets. If you mean those brands specifically, well, prices have gone up before the buy and I'm sure they'll be going up after too.
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qirex posted:Nobody knows because our trade policy is written on a used McDonald’s napkin in crayon by idiots This, and also, even if the only effects that spread are on shipping (and it will in no way be limited to that) that's gonna hurt logistics overall everywhere the longer it goes on. 25% of the world's economy, a nation that worked for 80 years in conjunction with the IMF and world banks as well as counterparts internationally in finance to establish a fiscal & trade system both for developed nations and for developing nations, standardized to the USD, has declared that nobody better move or the economy gets it, with a gun to its own head. Immediate effects and long term effects are guaranteed. I don't see how the rest of the world goes back to the way things were even if things change within the USA, this was all unthinkable and has happened anyway so trust probably won't come back. Thus pressures will probably persist for now and inflation is likely, and likely to be "sticky," as they put it. gently caress. Agreed fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 7, 2025 |
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