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Effective grappling isn't defined very well. Taken in isolation, is pressing someone against the fence for 2 minutes effective? Is passing guard effective? I'd say neither of those. The only effective grappling should be attempts to cause damage (a slam or submission attempt). Dominant position (or ride time, as it's called in collegiate wrestling) should not factor in at all.
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Is it true that the emphasis on elbows began as a reaction to modern laws requiring that competitors wear boxing gloves, instead of the traditional broken glass glued-on to the fists?
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May 6, 2011 20:00
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You can do what Shaolin monks used to do, develop their chins by swinging sandbags into each other's faces.
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Jun 22, 2011 17:43
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mobn posted:Did you just watch 36th Chamber of Shaolin too? And the sequels.
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Jun 22, 2011 18:11
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mobn posted:Holy poo poo, there are sequels? I haven't seen those anywhere, are they just numbered titles, or are they called something different? They are sometimes all called The Master Killer movies instead of the 36th chamber.
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Jun 22, 2011 22:23
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While most Kung Fu consists of essoteric traditions, there are some sparring-heavy schools. San Shou is a sport/martial art with a curriculum derived from Kung Fu. Cung Le was quite successful in MMA with that style. Kung Fu practitioners sparring tend to look like Dominick Cruz, constantly facing different directions. No idea if he's got any of his style from that, though. Judo is well represented, but Greco-Roman wrestling has had a lot more success. It's mainly because Judo guys train with gis, and maybe also because Judo would emphasize throws that will work on a larger opponent. (Wrestlers have a knack for picking someone up with the sheer force of their lower back muscles, which wouldn't make sense in self-defense without weight classes). Anyway, Judo, it works bitches. 
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Jul 22, 2011 00:58
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Actually, biting, eye-gouging, or groin strikes in were illegal UFC 1. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-ufceone040209 I don't know if there are any tournaments you could watch on tape which allowed that stuff. Vale Tudo International allowed groin attacks, but still no biting or eye-gouging.
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Aug 10, 2011 17:29
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I remember hearing the announcers say during the event that they were "against the rules" (might be thinking of UFC 2). Where did you hear otherwise?
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Aug 10, 2011 17:59
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Also, it's good technique to keep your head mobile and off the ground at all times. This is actually somewhat tiring if you try it, so it's just easier to hold your head up by hand.
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Sep 14, 2011 03:23
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I've seen a BJJ instructional video where you're told not to spend too much time on take downs, since time with a training partner should be spent on valuable groundwork, as "real fights will go to the ground." For a classic Wrestler vs. Grappler matchup, check out (Dubai grappling champion) Damian Maia vs. (NCAA wrestling champion) Mark Munoz. Munoz is able to take Maia down and get top position, but Maia is often able to curl up like a shrimp to get his legs between him and his opponent, then methodically shift position.
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Sep 21, 2011 14:28
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It would be hard to bring back knees to the head of a downed opponent with that Gary Goodridge crucifix fight in the books. But one thing that could be changed is the meaning of "down". Freestyle wrestling considers a competitor down when a hand is on the floor, but the hand not counting (the football version) might make more sense. Plenty of nasty knees happen when no hands are on the ground during a shoot, but I'm trying to imagine a scenario where a fighter is flung or tripped so that he lands on one hand in position for a knee or kick flush on the head. The only time you really see someone touching one hand to the ground is when he's using the rule as a gimmick - instead of defending himself from a strong legged opponent who often has no idea that the hand is touching.
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david carmichael posted:misaki/akiyama Interesting. It looks like the kick was aimed at the head while fully down on one knee, then it landed with three points down. Hopefully, getting rid of hand on the mat = down would still strongly discourage anyone from trying that kick, because it risks landing a fraction of a second early resulting in DQ. heeebrew posted:just looking to change the wording of the rules so that a hand touching the mat won't count as a downed opponent. It appears that the UFC is recently looking into changing it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ufc/2013/04/29/marc-ratner-ufc-unified-rules-association-of-boxing-commisions/2122139/ And speaking of changes, I had no idea that the actual, official gloves were like this: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/28/4278826/ufc-159-results-cub-swanson-thinks-mma-gloves-are-crap quote:If you relax your hand, the way the gloves are now, the natural position is for the hand to be completely open, which is why so many people get poked in the eye. If they were curved, and you put them on and relaxed your hand, your hand would follow the curve, not completely open.... When you can't break them in, they're very uncomfortable. I had to put them on early and start hitting the pads early, the day of the fight, just so I could feel comfortable, and not have the circulation cut off in my fingers.
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Pocket Billiards posted:FILA rule is 3 points of contact literally "three points of contact: two arms and one knee or two knees and one arm or the head". I meant that a takedown doesn't require that the knees touch. But maybe that's just in collegiate wrestling and not Olympic freestyle.
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May 3, 2013 14:01
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Shaolin monks allegedly trained to take blows by having sandbags swung into their faces and head-butting them back. I take it this is not scientific training.
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I remember reading an article about Ceasar Chavez, Jr. when he was something like 27 - 0 with 21 knockouts and a WBC title, and the author was wondering if - if! - he could someday become a world class fighter. Those number sound so gaudy after following MMA. I wonder if the can-crushing a relic of an older era when promoters couldn't use highlight reels and were practically limited to printed names and records.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:17
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Yuriy posted:There's like 3 organizations with their own belt for every weight class, getting good boxers to actually fight each other is painstaking Also worth noting: uniting the titles in one weight class (out of the 17) involves paying a generous sanctioning fee to each of the sanctioning bodies for each title fight. Champion-vs-champion fights are discouraged financially.
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Feb 15, 2014 16:07
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Is there a single most accepted explanation for why there are so many injuries in MMA? There are bound to be more than in boxing, since MMA involves moving the limbs in a wider range and in many more directions than boxing. But there are other popular sports, especially football, that seem to put plenty of stress on the joints. I’ve heard a few different ideas: 1. There actually aren’t more injuries in MMA. You just don’t notice the injuries in other sports because the Superbowl isn’t canceled when Payton Manning sprains his thumb. 2. The injured guy himself is more likely to play through his injury in a team sport. This is partly because of feeling obligated to his teammates, and partly because he can afford a couple of sub-par performances without wrecking his career. A fighter puts the fate of the next year (or two) of his career into a single, rather quick competition that happens once every four months. 3. There are more injuries in MMA, and it’s because the sport is still developing. So, in addition to a gym’s main instructor, you might have a wrestling coach, a grappling coach, and a striking coach, each one trying to work you as hard as they would work someone who is only doing their one sport. 4. There is no offseason. I remember Bisping saying that he felt stronger than ever because he was going through an Olympic weight lifting regimen . . . during a fight camp. Other professional athletes get in shape before they meet the coaches for spring training, because skills, strength, and conditioning training are hard on the body when done all at once. 5. A culture has developed in MMA in which people are stupid and train like idiots. 
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Jun 4, 2014 18:03
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Here's an interesting interview where Chael Sonnen explains why he thinks Greco-Roman wrestling is a better base for MMA than international, olympic freestyle. http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/3/9/4081332/technique-talk-chael-sonnen-mma-wrestling-interview-takedowns-ufc-news
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Aug 30, 2014 03:27
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Sore abs coming up.
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Sep 27, 2015 21:56
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A man weighing 10% less than a woman should have roughly the same amount of muscle mass. The man's punching ability, much like his bench press, would remain better. Still, I wonder about a grapping match between Rousey and, say, a 115 pound guy.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:17
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I thought Maia vs. Munoz was an interesting look at how a high level collegiate wrestler and a high level BJJ practitioner move so differently on the ground. Not as exciting as (the first round of) Maia vs. Shields, though.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:06
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It's not just a wrestling thing. See the world baseball classic and many bicycle races.
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I rather like the recent changes to the Unified Rules of MMA. Theseshould be taking effect Jan. 1st. quote:Grounded fighter
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