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Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

niethan posted:

It is less probable for me to dominate a dude 10-8 after just having been outworked with two 9-10.

Condit vs. MacDonald was exactly this. Two rounds of MacDonald controlling the striking and grappling before Condit took him down in the third and pounded the poo poo out of him on the ground. Granted the ref stopped the fight with like ten seconds to go but if he hadn't it would've been a clear cut 28-28, although I think at least two of the judges didn't score the last round 10-8 meaning it would've been a split for MacDonald.

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Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

To all the boxing people: Is there a consensual #1 American heavyweight right now? I know of the Klitschkos and David Haye but I've heard literally nothing about any American heavyweight boxers.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

Sorry yes I meant by consensus, thanks for the answers and the semantics lesson.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

ForbiddenWonder posted:

the best part was when he was interviewed as part of that first 10 years of pride documentary. he basically said 'wow, that was an ugly face that boy had after that fight. I didn't want that face'. I wish I could find a clip of it, the way he says it is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4spi1Gwjs#t=455s

everyone should watch this documentary

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

Dancing Peasant posted:

Has there ever been a knockout with a superman punch?

Travis Browne KOing Stefan Struve is probably the best recent example (.gif linked for size)

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

diego lost to myles jury because he ate a bad quail egg and also ricardo arona's entire career

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.



jardine was a treasure

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

EmmyOk posted:

Are heel hooks effective in MMA? I thought you could just sit up and blast someone in teh face.

rousimar palhares got fired from the UFC because he was winning too quickly with them, and his opponents wouldn't quit whining about it

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

Muttonchips posted:

Just saw a video clip where Ronda Rousey is in a grappling session with a male fighter and getting clearly dominated.

Why is this so? As one of the top elite judo practitioners in the world, shouldn't she have been able to neutralize the size difference? Isn't that what judo is all about? Using the opponent's weight against them?

If she fought someone smaller (like Demetrius Johnson), would she be able to hold her own? Or is it just the male advantage? I'm doubly confused as I've also seen a video of a really small Asian guy able to armbar a fighter who was waaaay bigger than him.

Basically what I'm asking is- if cross-gender bout was allowed, which weight class could Ronda find some success in?

ronda would get crushed against any remotely good male fighter in her weight class, never mind dj.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

my favourite BJ Penn Moment was when everyone ridiculed edgar's chances in the rematch and they had a million trailers with BJ going 'I WANT MY BELT BACK, THIS TIME I'M SERIOUS, THE REAL BJ PENN etc.' and then he got leg kicked so hard that he fell down and looked like someone had pulled back his chair when he was about to sit down

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

the time he kicked diego in the head really hard was good too

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

Lid posted:

Also this



Stephens torques his hip into the uppercut

Also helps that Stephens hits like a loving truck

throwing a naked rear uppercut like that is usually a recipe to get countered by whatever but rafael dos anjos (the guy getting loving killed) was a bad striker in 2008

justin gaetje and chad mendes are good at it though, because they mask it with takedowns attempts and get the torque from dipping with the hips instead of dropping their rear hand hand to their waist

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

vainman posted:

Hendricks never seemed to be particularly gifted and he was champ of the toughest division

hendricks had ko power and speed for days. when he was good he was really dangerous.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

i can't think of a time when someone has hurt their opponent with a broken hand but i'm sure it's happened.

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Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Like a snail that melteth away into slime, they shall be taken away; like a dead-born child, they shall not see the sun.

1996 mark coleman with headbutts would be world champion today

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