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If no one wants to do a post for boxing I'll write one up during work tomorrow.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 06:07 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 15:00 |
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KungFu Grip posted:Is Mayweather still a champion? I don't know if he has a belt any more but belts don't matter in boxing as much. Mayweather is P4P the best though.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 06:13 |
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The ring magazine belt is probably the only meaningful one.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 06:14 |
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Critical posted:And they won't fight each other. Not that the fight would be any loving good, but the point stands. Oh gently caress off that fight would be a technical masterpiece. A battle of jabs never to be seen again. I'd be so loving excited if Wlad and Vitali decided to fight.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 06:17 |
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Anyone want to contribute some must watch fights from 2005-present day? I just realized how little I follow modern day boxing and it made me sad.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 14:54 |
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Here's a post Boxing is one of the oldest sports in the history of the world. I mean come on it's two men punching each other in the face who doesn't like to watch that? It has developed over the years into the sport we know today. The Rules In 1867 the Marquess of Queensberry made the rules that are still followed in boxing to this day.
Of course there have been slight modifications here and there but that's about the gist of a boxing match. Two men punching each other, with as little clinching as possible, until the end of all the rounds or a ko/tko happens. The Punches Jab- this is the beginning of everything in boxing. It is a simple straight punch with the forward hand. Cross or Straight- This is a straight punch with the back hand Hook- A punch with a circular motion. Uppercut- A punch coming from bottom to top. Those are the four basic punches and all you have to worry about for now. The Stances A boxers stance is very important to which of his punches will have more power and what type of punches it will be easier for him to get hit with. Generally stance isn't really a big decider unless a southpaw has a huge problem with straight rights. Orthodox- This is the stance for almost every right-handed fighter. Left foot is forward right foot is in the back. Southpaw- This is the stance for almost every left-handed fighter. Right foot forward left foot is in the back. The Styles Every boxer has their own style but they can be categorized into 5 archetypes. Boxer/Out-fighter- This is imo the best style to watch. It's boxing at its purest. The out-fighter fights on the outside(duh) and utiliazes fast, long range punches to do his damage. Every boxer will have an excellent jab and will know how to work the ring. Notable out-fighters: Ali, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Boxer-puncher- Boxer punchers tend to be well rounded boxers being able to fight on the inside as well as the outside. They have similar technique to the out-fighter but are able to KO their opponents more often. Notable boxer-punchers: Sugar Ray Robinson, Manny Pacquiao, Tommy Hearns Brawler- Boxers with incredible punch strength and not much else. These guys take two punches to give one and that one punch is usually a doozy. Slow and predictable these guys will always have to win by KO. Notable brawlers: George Foreman, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini Swarmer/In-fighter- Pressure is the name of the game. Staying incredibly close to their opponents and throwing combinations on top of combinations these fighters will stick to you like white on rice. They use bobbing and weaving to get to the inside and when they get there boy are you in trouble. Notable in-fighters: Jack Dempsey, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson Counter Punchers- These fighters are defensive geniuses that rely on punching when their opponent misses. Capitalizing on your opponents mistakes is difficult though and these guys have to have the mental toughness to stare down punches waiting for their counters. Notable counter punchers: Juan Manuel Marquez, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney How these styles match up is what makes the world of boxing interesting and as the saying goes "styles make fights." The Fighters This is the rings pound for pound list and includes some of the best guys at various weights. I'm not going to include rankings for each weight class because there are too many and I'm lazy but I will link you to the ring rankings.
The Fights Here are some fights that you can look up to get you started in watching boxing there's a seriously long history to this sport so I'm just going to cherry pick some of my favorite fights. Jack Johnson vs James J. Jeffries Jess Willard vs Jack Dempsey Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling 1-2 Joe Louis vs Billy Conn Jersey Joe Walcott vs Ezzard Charles 1-3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs Rocky Marciano Rocky Marciano vs Archie Moore Floyd Patterson vs Ingemar Johansson 1-3 Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston 1-2 Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 1-3 Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman Muhammad Ali Vs Earnie Shavers Tommy Hearns vs Roberto Duran Tommy Hearns vs Marvin Hagler Tommy Hearns vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 1-2 Hector Macho Camacho vs Edwin Rosario Hector Macho Comacho vs Sugar Ray Leonard Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick Mike Tyson vs Donovan Razor Ruddock 1-2 Pernel Whitaker vs Oscar De La Hoya Pernel Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad Naseem Hamed vs Kevin Kelly Naseem Hamed vs Marco Antonio Barrera Macro Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales 1-3 Erik Morales Vs Manny Pacquiao 1-2 Israel Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez 1-3 Micky Ward vs Arturo Gatti 1-3 Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Emmanuel Augustus Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Diego Corales Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Jose Luis Castillo 1-2 Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Zab Judah Zab Judah vs Kostya Tszyu Kostya Tszyu vs Diosbelys Hurtado Kostya Tszyu vs Ricky Hatton Ricky Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. Ricky Hatton vs Manny Pacquiao Miguel Cotto vs Manny Pacquiao Miguel Cotto vs Paulie Malinaggi Sergei Liakhovich vs Shannon Briggs Sergei Liakhovich vs Lamon Brewster Wladimir Klitschko vs Lamon Brewster 1-2 Alright this list could go on for days as I watch a lot of fights and there's tons of fighters I didn't even touch on. These are just some of the personal favorites of mine. Other people need to contribute so that there can be a variety and lower weight figths in here as I don't really watch under 130 guys.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 16:26 |
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Slaapaav posted:for mma newbies learn this youtube url the link stay purple but i still click it
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 17:15 |
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RobBorer posted:Added to the OP. It would be nice if someone could write a Current History part that explains the situation that boxing is in right now and a little history that told how it got that way. I know the gist of it, but I'd rather someone who follows the sport closely explain it. It's really just greedy promoters and stupid alphabet soup orginizations. The way boxing works today is that if you're a champion you have to pay a fee to the orginization that you hold the belt for if you're going to defend it and so does your opponent. So that basically makes titles meaningless at this point because who honestly wants to pay 50k to fight some scrub that is up in the rankings and a mandatory fight for him. This is how the alaphabet soup titles all came to be. This is why the rankings for none of the titles matter either as they just want a guy that will pay them and they can force the champ to manditorily defend against. Those are the ranking issues. Then the managerial issues are that boxing is run by greedy assholes with bigger egos than the fighters. When you have two top guys that everyone wants to see fight (Floyd v Manny) and they are under different promotion banners it becomes a pissing match to see who can get who to concede to more. This is why a lot of fights don't get made. Then there is the protection factor where managers will keep their fighter fighting journeymen to pad their record so they can get a title shot. Leaving legitimate threats to the top without fights (Paul Williams was in this situation for a long time). These are the major problems with boxing as I see it. What could remedy all this? An orginization like the UFC I think might work but then you'll end up with tons of others popping up and none of the top guys fighting again. The UFC situation won't work unless you are hyper dominant and that won't happen unless someone wants to invest billions. Maybe a TV deal like the ABC one and every friday night or whatever but people just won't watch. I think the onus is on boxers to stand out and make change like Floyd did when he refused to pay the fee to defend his belt. It's just a very difficult situation. I'd like to here is anyone else has any thoughts as to what could be done to fix boxing.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 17:58 |
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RobBorer posted:Start a new sport that is the exact same thing as boxing, but uses 4 ounce gloves, 3 rounds of 3 minutes, and uses MMA weight classes. Get on HBO, and use a tournament system with exclusive contracts. Sign young talent and build stars while establishing a new culture. That would lead to the most hilarious fights ever and basically machine gun punching as there'd be no fatigue to worry about. I don't like the idea of lowering glove weights either as there would be lots of hand injuries.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 19:13 |
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Uh North South? Leading to hilarious subs and dick in the face.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 19:22 |
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That's pretty awesome Bubba.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2011 04:10 |
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Someone make a gif of when Tyson slips 6 or 7 punches and then ko's a dude. I forgot what fight it's from. tia
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# ¿ May 20, 2011 15:52 |
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No unfortunately that's not it fawker. It's a lot cleaner slipping the other guys fists never come near Tyson's face. From my recollection Tyson was to the right of the frame and he floors the guy with a left hook.
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# ¿ May 20, 2011 20:28 |
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niethan posted:russian_waterpark_brawl.flv I loving loved that video.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 16:06 |
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yes sir
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 19:04 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 15:00 |
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Save Russian Jews posted:bjs how did doctors try to make bjs unfun?
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