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Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011


Palhares is huge gently caress

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Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011


Seriously gently caress the camera guys

Kekekela
Oct 28, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Probably the most exciting draw I've ever watched. Tonon put on a clinic, multiple back takes, and some deep as gently caress heel hooks I'm sure PH is gonna be feeling later (one he had to let go off because of OOB that might have been going somewhere).

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003



origami posted:

apparently shields was dragged off the mat for stockton slapping aj after the match but we can't see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1QO3YZC400

He was real mad after the fight too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5gVgaqCOdo

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

RAPE IS TOTALLY COOL IF USED IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT


stockton is everywhere now

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003



haha no wonder Shields slapped him

http://i.imgur.com/Q0g4Dra.webm

Decades
Apr 12, 2007

1969 in the sunshine


College Slice

Am I the only one who finds it crazy that there are still sub only events without tiebreakers? I enjoyed most of Polaris, but all 8 main card matches would've been way more interesting with the knowledge that there were overtime rounds at the end of them. Not saying they need to replicate EBI's rules exactly (they probably should), but gently caress, try something.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

colonel_korn posted:

haha no wonder Shields slapped him

http://i.imgur.com/Q0g4Dra.webm

Keep it classy.

FreddyJackieTurner
May 15, 2008



Anybody got any good suggestions on some intermediate-level video series on the closed guard?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Worst decision I ever made.


Decades posted:

Am I the only one who finds it crazy that there are still sub only events without tiebreakers? I enjoyed most of Polaris, but all 8 main card matches would've been way more interesting with the knowledge that there were overtime rounds at the end of them. Not saying they need to replicate EBI's rules exactly (they probably should), but gently caress, try something.

In the event of a tie, both participants will be reset to standing. First one to touch the ground with anything but their palms or feet shall be declared a loser. 3 minute time limit.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

by Lowtax


In the event of a tie the winner will be determined by who can eat the most acai in sixty seconds.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Worst decision I ever made.


fatherdog posted:

In the event of a tie the winner will be determined by who can eat the most acai in sixty seconds.

I like this idea better than mine.

Decades
Apr 12, 2007

1969 in the sunshine


College Slice

Those are both much better than what we have now

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

lego ass bitch

Decades posted:

Am I the only one who finds it crazy that there are still sub only events without tiebreakers? I enjoyed most of Polaris, but all 8 main card matches would've been way more interesting with the knowledge that there were overtime rounds at the end of them. Not saying they need to replicate EBI's rules exactly (they probably should), but gently caress, try something.

The top three matches were cool but yea I thought they all deserved more time. I don't know what's the deal with Metamoris these days but I think the thing they did/do better was having a smaller main card and longer matches (20 minutes iirc). I would've liked 10 more minutes out of each of the top 3 matches.

Kekekela
Oct 28, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Seltzer posted:

The top three matches were cool but yea I thought they all deserved more time. I don't know what's the deal with Metamoris these days but I think the thing they did/do better was having a smaller main card and longer matches (20 minutes iirc). I would've liked 10 more minutes out of each of the top 3 matches.

The last 2 I more or less agree with, but I could've done with about 5 minutes less of watching Tanquinho bail out repeatedly.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009


I don't know what the deal is with the venue and curfew and whatnot, but I'd like to see shows like this do a no time limit main event.

ch3cooh
Jun 26, 2006



Sprecherscrow posted:

I don't know what the deal is with the venue and curfew and whatnot, but I'd like to see shows like this do a no time limit main event.

SIN LIMITE!

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...


Sprecherscrow posted:

I don't know what the deal is with the venue and curfew and whatnot, but I'd like to see shows like this do a no time limit main event.

No-time-limit grappling matches can last like 3 hours, this lesson was learned like 100 years ago and it's why pro wrestling is fake now.

Decades
Apr 12, 2007

1969 in the sunshine


College Slice

It's a super weird non starter for normal people who are used to live sports, but one thing I enjoyed a lot about Lloyd Irvin's Kumite series was the format of the matches all being no time limit, but slickly edited down into highlights. It wouldn't work for every scenario but it's one way to make three hour long grappling matches watchable. I haven't rewatched it in years so my tastes may have changed as I've learned a bit more about grappling, but I remember it being pretty rad. Irvin is scum but I do wish someone would steal his idea for a less sketchy sequel.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003



Decades posted:

It's a super weird non starter for normal people who are used to live sports, but one thing I enjoyed a lot about Lloyd Irvin's Kumite series was the format of the matches all being no time limit, but slickly edited down into highlights. It wouldn't work for every scenario but it's one way to make three hour long grappling matches watchable. I haven't rewatched it in years so my tastes may have changed as I've learned a bit more about grappling, but I remember it being pretty rad. Irvin is scum but I do wish someone would steal his idea for a less sketchy sequel.

Hah, I was just watching that the other day myself. Most of it is still online.

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xba4HKplHQA

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV9XemySmqo
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woCzjhHsjJA (not sure where Part 3 went)

There's also some of the full matches uploaded. It was a pretty cool tournament, Irvin's scumminess aside.
Still hilarious when the one guy taps out of frustration because his opponent kept using the forbidden technique of grabbing his hands.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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Decades posted:

Am I the only one who finds it crazy that there are still sub only events without tiebreakers? I enjoyed most of Polaris, but all 8 main card matches would've been way more interesting with the knowledge that there were overtime rounds at the end of them. Not saying they need to replicate EBI's rules exactly (they probably should), but gently caress, try something.

I don't mind the Polaris/Metamoris approach. If they needed a winner I would rather they implement a judges decision rather than some arbitrary tie break position. Especially if near submissions are weighted heavily in the judges criteria.

The thing about tie breakers is that most of the time it's easier to survive to the end of regulation time than it is to finish someone. So give people enough time and competition to adapt and you'll see people specialising in surviving and winning tie breaks. Look at what Joe Soto did in EBI IV, beating Martinez and Miyao at their own disciplines one after the other on account of being able to escape positions the quickest.

It's a situation that happened in the FILA Wrestling styles after the 2000 Olympics with compulsory par terre in Greco-Roman and this ball grab/single leg position in Freestyle to determine round winners. It becomes a bigger and bigger part of the sport/focus of the tactics at the elite level and ultimately what decides winners at flagship events. It's the kind of thing that alienates the purists and the casual fans who turn up to see submissions and instead get to see the Ultimate Back Control Escape Championship.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009


Pocket Billiards posted:

I don't mind the Polaris/Metamoris approach. If they needed a winner I would rather they implement a judges decision rather than some arbitrary tie break position. Especially if near submissions are weighted heavily in the judges criteria.

The thing about tie breakers is that most of the time it's easier to survive to the end of regulation time than it is to finish someone. So give people enough time and competition to adapt and you'll see people specialising in surviving and winning tie breaks. Look at what Joe Soto did in EBI IV, beating Martinez and Miyao at their own disciplines one after the other on account of being able to escape positions the quickest.

It's a situation that happened in the FILA Wrestling styles after the 2000 Olympics with compulsory par terre in Greco-Roman and this ball grab/single leg position in Freestyle to determine round winners. It becomes a bigger and bigger part of the sport/focus of the tactics at the elite level and ultimately what decides winners at flagship events. It's the kind of thing that alienates the purists and the casual fans who turn up to see submissions and instead get to see the Ultimate Back Control Escape Championship.

It's the hockey shootout argument.

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt

my white gi is looking pretty (really) dingy no matter how often I wash it.

Is there a better way to get it whiter outside of using bleach?

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006





Alfalfa posted:

Is there a better way to get it whiter outside of using bleach?

Oxi-Clean, white vinegar, lemons, sunlight.

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011


Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Worst decision I ever made.


Welp tonight I accidentally went night-night for the first time after trying to do a back door escape vs a baseball bat choke grip and ended up on top of the guys back which made the choke go in really really tight, rather than forcing him to let go of it. I woke up seconds later oddly refreshed with the sounds of the ocean in my ear. So a valuable lesson was learned.

Decades
Apr 12, 2007

1969 in the sunshine


College Slice

Pocket Billiards posted:

Ultimate Back Control Escape Championship.

I see what you mean. Soto did highlight some flaws in the current system (for what it's worth EBI's monetary incentives mean he wouldn't have gotten paid for it had he won), but regardless I think that rule set is working in the right direction and can continue to evolve. If someone did manage to win with that strategy, successfully escaping back / spider web control nine times straight in one night without getting caught once would still be pretty impressive and more interesting than the dynamics of most of the recent Polaris matches. Even putting aside the part about "needing" a winner, it's fun to see high level grapplers get put in bad spots. If it means that everyone masters defending and escaping rear mount 1) good, because that's a super practical skill to have in bjj and even crossing over into other combat sports, and 2) maybe new positions in addition to those two could get introduced, giving the attackers new options. Maybe a triangle without the arm crossed over? The truck or some other semi-dominant leg entanglement? Something with a kimura grip? I don't know, I'd trust someone better at grappling to iron out the specifics.

Tezcatlipoca posted:

It's the hockey shootout argument.

I barely know what hockey is, but D2 the mighty ducks strike back led me to believe that shootouts are a cool and good thing, and an ideal opportunity for the players to express their individual personalities (tough guy, cowboy, girl, etc.)

Decades fucked around with this message at Apr 6, 2016 around 03:00

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011


colonel_korn posted:

Hah, I was just watching that the other day myself. Most of it is still online.

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xba4HKplHQA

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV9XemySmqo
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woCzjhHsjJA (not sure where Part 3 went)

There's also some of the full matches uploaded. It was a pretty cool tournament, Irvin's scumminess aside.
Still hilarious when the one guy taps out of frustration because his opponent kept using the forbidden technique of grabbing his hands.

I wish we had gotten a better camera angle on the plank spear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woCzjhHsjJA#t=368s

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



Did the designer manually slope the letters in the names?

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.


kimbo305 posted:

Did the designer manually slope the letters in the names?

Now that's all I can see, thanks.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002


6 (six)


College Slice

Alfalfa posted:

my white gi is looking pretty (really) dingy no matter how often I wash it.

Is there a better way to get it whiter outside of using bleach?

Use a hydrogen peroxide based bleach like Oxi-clean. Don't use chlorine bleach, it'll make your gi easy to rip.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003



e: wrong thread

Mr. Pool
Jul 10, 2001


Jits is truly 10 dimensional chess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHDkVnqTVi4

Takedown (Single leg) -> counter submission (Guillotine)-> counter that submission with secret counter submission (Von Flue Choke) -> counter that submission with double secret counter submission (Loop choke)

WayneCampbell
Oct 7, 2005
You got me a gunrack?!? I don't even own a gun, let alone alone enough to nessecitate an entire rack.

JaySB posted:

Oxi-Clean, white vinegar, lemons, sunlight.

I tried this and when they say to dissolve the oxiclean in water first, you should listen. I've got some white gis that have become tie dye gray because i threw it in like it was detergent..

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004



We've had this guest coach for the last month or so who is one of Firas Zahabi's brown belts, and I think he has some time under Murilo Bustamante too. The difference is crazy, I hope all you assholes who train under world class coaches appreciate how good you have it. I'm improving at three times my usual rate.

Kekekela
Oct 28, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


NBC is streaming/broadcasting the US Olympic Hestling Trials:

Saturday, April 9
Morning/afternoon preliminaries/semifinals (10am-3:30pm ET)

Live Stream
Mat 1: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21407
Mat 2: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21408
Mat 3: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21409
Mat 4: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21410
Broadcast: Digital only

Saturday evening finals (7-9:30pm ET)
Live Stream
Mat 1: http://nbcsnstream2.nbcsports.com
Broadcast: NBCSN
Mat 2: http://liveextra.nbcsports.com
Broadcast: Digital only

Sunday, April 10
Morning/afternoon preliminaries/semifinals (10am-3:30pm ET)

Live Stream
Mat 1: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21413
Mat 2: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21414
Mat 3: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21415
Mat 4: http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbc/?pid=21416
Broadcast: Digital only

Sunday evening finals LIVE (7-10pm ET)
Live Stream
Mat 1: http://liveextra.nbcsports.com
Mat 2: http://livestream.nbcsports.com
Broadcast: Digital only

Sunday evening finals TAPE DELAY (10:30pm-1am ET)
Live Stream Link: http://nbcsnstream.nbcsports.com
Broadcast: NBCSN

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002


6 (six)


College Slice

Some good wrestling so far. Though tomorrow has the more marquee weight classes.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002


6 (six)


College Slice

drat, Pico just took out Oliver.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002


6 (six)


College Slice

drat, and Molinaro took out Metcalf! Crazy quarters at 65kg

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Kekekela
Oct 28, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Watching mat 1, Jones just seemed to get 4 points out of nowhere I'm confused...

e: holy fuckin suplex

Kekekela fucked around with this message at Apr 9, 2016 around 17:02

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