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shizen
Dec 29, 2006



are there any free instructional videos online for basic moves to just learn the sport better? Not really subs but more positioning, guard passes, sweeps ext.

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Ciprian Maricon
Feb 27, 2006




Save Russian Jews posted:

What is the best way to not embarrass myself. Feel free to ask anything you need to determine why I should not attempt this, ever.

Just go ahead and try it. There is pretty much nothing you're going to do that wont be embarrassing, some of those dudes will have been wrestling since they where like seven years old.

Save Russian Jews
Jun 7, 2007

who the fuck is this guy anyway, i can't even see his face


Lipstick Apathy

the periodic fable posted:

gonna guess you start to move around less, eat more, eat worse things, eat more irregularly, less time for hobbies (training) etc

edit:
or save russian jews is a girl i guess

I'm a stay-at-home dad, and money's been tight lately, so when some Albanian chick blew a red light and demolished my car, we were stuck with just my wife's. I've been sitting around without working out regularly (gym maybe 1x a week, no cardio) for like 6-9 months, and eating terribly because meal times aren't really defined when the kid is running about.

Coitus_Interruptus posted:

Just go ahead and try it. There is pretty much nothing you're going to do that wont be embarrassing, some of those dudes will have been wrestling since they where like seven years old.

yeah, that's what I'm figuring. I'll be the token old dude who is not good for a while, and after a montage set to some 80s music I'll be in top form for The Championship Match™

Gourd of Taste
Sep 11, 2006

by Ralp


Can you run to a gym, it sounds like you should run to a gym

Also just go for it, work hard. Believe. Every time champion.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

kimbo305 posted:

I don't hear any, besides Silva's tapping on Imanari's leg?

crank your audio or use headphones its hard to hear. As they roll it sounds like a bowl of rice crispy treats.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Here he comes, that Mighty Mouse
Just like a bolt from the blue with a heart that's true
Fighting evil, fighting crime
And always there in the nick of time


His knee probably sounds like rice crispies at all times now.

MycroftXXX
May 10, 2006

A Liquor Never Brewed

Now I'm hungry for a rice crispy treat and feel an urge to brush up on my lower extremity defense.

Opal
May 10, 2005


shizen posted:

are there any free instructional videos online for basic moves to just learn the sport better? Not really subs but more positioning, guard passes, sweeps ext.

i've been looking but personally i feel single technique videos en masse don't really do much to help you understand the sport, although i guess if you suffer through watching a ton of them then eventually it will come together as you watch more matches.

i think i would recommend youtubing sweeps, passes, positioning keywords and looking at whatever you find interesting and then try to find matches with commentators. grappling competition DVDs sometimes have commentating for the finals matches, sometimes for the entire event, i know grapplersquest does but i've also been rather disappointed with the quality of commentating from them so take that as you will. ADCC 2009 i think it was had some pretty good commentating.

figure out what in a given match you want to know more about and look up those specific things. the commentators should help you figure out keywords to search for based on what they're saying when calling the action, for example you may want to know more about the deep half-guard then the commentators could perhaps mention the x-guard and how there are sweeps and etc etc

Opal fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2011 around 15:09

dokomoy
May 21, 2004


shizen posted:

are there any free instructional videos online for basic moves to just learn the sport better? Not really subs but more positioning, guard passes, sweeps ext.

Not free but you could look into one of the various online training site(Jean Jacques Machado Online. Draculino BJJ Training,Marcelo Garcia in Action or Gracie University. There's a lot of good instruction on youtube but without some background in the sport it's sometimes hard to know what's good or bad, and most instructionals that come out focus on more advanced/niche stuff than what you need to work on as a beginner.

Failing that I'd pick up Jiu Jitsu University by Saulo Ribeiro.

edit: It's not impossible to learn jiu jitsu with out an instructor(most people outside of Brazil or California until the mid 90's instruction consisted of 1 or 2 dvd sets and training with a real instructor for two weeks a year, there's more instruction out there now, but it's difficult, especially if you can't find someone competent to train with occasionally to point out your mistakes.

dokomoy fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2011 around 17:25

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Just please do not use submissions 101. They are popular but riddled with errors or techniques done at a blue belt level.

Funny story, my old instructor started training back in the mid 90's. He won most technical submission at a tournament. The submission: triangle choke. He told us that the blue belts in his academy now were basically on par with brown belts back then. His first trip to brazil, he said he couldn't hook flip old man white belts. This sport has really exploded.

Xguard86 fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2011 around 18:09

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


Xguard86 posted:

Just please do not use submissions 101. They are popular but riddled with errors or techniques done at a blue belt level.

Funny story, my old instructor started training back in the mid 90's. He won most technical submission at a tournament. The submission: triangle choke. He told us that the blue belts in his academy now were basically on par with brown belts back then. His first trip to brazil, he said he couldn't hook flip old man white belts. This sport has really exploded.

that sub101 guy released a dvd in which all his takedowns are performed by bending 90 degrees at the waist and running forward. it was amazing.

MycroftXXX
May 10, 2006

A Liquor Never Brewed

mobn posted:

that sub101 guy released a dvd in which all his takedowns are performed by bending 90 degrees at the waist and running forward. it was amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eusZGjMaW5g

Even the british are shaking their heads at that double.

Angora
Feb 16, 2009

by Ozmaugh


MycroftXXX posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eusZGjMaW5g

Even the british are shaking their heads at that double.



This makes me feel really really good about my non-existent takedowns.

I mean, the guy doesn't use a penetration step at all. I'm a white belt and even I know better

Pooned
Dec 28, 2005

Eye contact counters everything


I would have loved to see him do that takedown on someone weighing 300 pounds.

Grab Your Foot!
Apr 23, 2007

The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.


I've always been partial to his single actually; ceci n'est pas running the pipe.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

by Lowtax


Grab Your Foot! posted:

I've always been partial to his single actually; ceci n'est pas running the pipe.

The Treachery of Suplexes

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.


Grab Your Foot! posted:

I've always been partial to his single actually; ceci n'est pas running the pipe.

holy poo poo hahahaha

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Pooned posted:

I would have loved to see him do that takedown on someone weighing 300 pounds.

hell someone half that size with any kind of footwork would laugh at that.

Quick, someone post that Hendo/Bisping take down .gif

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


MycroftXXX posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eusZGjMaW5g

Even the british are shaking their heads at that double.

the answer to this takedown is always mobnsprawl to imada choke

awkward_turtle
Oct 26, 2007
swimmer in a goon sea

shizen posted:

are there any free instructional videos online for basic moves to just learn the sport better? Not really subs but more positioning, guard passes, sweeps ext.

Sweeps and passes are fairly easy to find, but positioning is sort of the meat and potatoes of the sport that can be harder to find information on. You pretty much have to do it to get it. Best way would probably be to watch matches on youtube. Intermediate and advanced nogi and purple and brown gi. I can't really recommend black belt level matches just because gi is so relatively slow and steady it can be hard to figure out why the guys are doing what they're doing. Purples and browns are going to do some crazy stuff but make less mistakes, and they don't game plan as well/ have as much riding on the matches so they're more willing to open up. The Grapplers Quest channel might be a good one to check out.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008


Anyone else think that Roger Gracie deserves a post of his own for his place in the BJJ world right now?

Btw, the "orange shorts" guy in the Marcelo Garcia HL was UFC lightweight/welterweight Diego Sanchez.

Roger Gracie teaching the cross choke from mount, make sure the closed captioning (English subtitles in this case) option is enabled; the part before is a short HL of him tapping dudes with it and the standard "don't try this at home" blurb

Roger vs. Jacare highlights from ADCC (no-gi) 2005, featuring a hanging (not exactly flying) guillotine attempt, a back suplex and one of the more epic piggyback RNCs ever just for Renzo Gracie flipping out off-camera

My favorite Sherdog quote on how to tap Roger: "Ask him if this rag smells like chloroform, then apply puppet strings and a video camera (Warning: Do not actually attempt to place submission hold onto Roger's unconscious body, it will only escape and reverse you)"

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

call me lesbo
27565-02-7749


Grimey Drawer

Have any of you trained using one of these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0unUBxf8fE
Also, would you recommend this kind of strange guitar jazz for grappling sessions?

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

We uninspired
We unadmired
And tired and sick
of being sick and tired

That dummy would wreck my poo poo.

Angora
Feb 16, 2009

by Ozmaugh


I can't touch or look at wrestling dummies anymore after spending too much time in the dollfucker threads

JiveHonky posted:

Also, would you recommend this kind of strange guitar jazz for grappling sessions?

I really wish my gym didn't have a Pandora station on Muse as the background music all the time

Angora fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2011 around 16:10

Opal
May 10, 2005


hahah, i thought the exact same thing.

henkman
Oct 8, 2008

I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT


Angora posted:

I really wish my gym didn't have a Pandora station on Muse as the background music all the time

My gym doesn't use any music. Just the sound of men grunting and groaning while we practice shoulder pressure and knee on belly. Sometimes sounds like a rough gay porno from outside.

Acinonyx
Oct 21, 2005


MycroftXXX posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eusZGjMaW5g

Even the british are shaking their heads at that double.

I wonder how many takes they did, and how bad the ones they didn't use are...
I used to think I had just about the worst double of any blue belt anywhere, but that dude takes it to the next level.

Alastor_the_Stylish
Jul 25, 2006

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Acinonyx posted:

I wonder how many takes they did, and how bad the ones they didn't use are...
I used to think I had just about the worst double of any blue belt anywhere, but that dude takes it to the next level.

That really wide hip throw in double vision to mask the guy losing his balance is my favorite.

MycroftXXX
May 10, 2006

A Liquor Never Brewed

JiveHonky posted:

Have any of you trained using one of these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0unUBxf8fE
Also, would you recommend this kind of strange guitar jazz for grappling sessions?

That is just straight up weird. No thank you.

Ho Chi Meeeeee
Jun 13, 2008

let me shovel out your brains
hang my image in your skull
so I can be the vision
in your nightmares from now on


henkman posted:

My gym doesn't use any music. Just the sound of men grunting and groaning while we practice shoulder pressure and knee on belly. Sometimes sounds like a rough gay porno from outside.

I always have to tape down my erections when I'm grappling :/

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_J_...feature=related

i am going to give up solid back control with an arm under your neck to choke you with the power of satan

Subparr
Feb 4, 2004

Meanderthal


Reggae while grappling supremacy.

westcoaster
Oct 26, 2010


mobn posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_J_...feature=related

i am going to give up solid back control with an arm under your neck to choke you with the power of satan

Yea, theres no way you're going to maintain control of someone to do that crazy submission.

Who Gotch Ya
Jun 27, 2003

streetdoctors.com
Yes, we are hybrid rappers.


Ari Bolden is a herb but that doesn't mean that the move wouldn't work. I'd just forget the half nelson part and do the Hashimoto triangle/arbmar though.

westcoaster
Oct 26, 2010


Lots of crazy moves work. It just seems like a silly move to go considering your options at the time and the large amount of risk involved. Maybe I'll even give it a try next week. But its definitely a gimmick technique.

Who Gotch Ya
Jun 27, 2003

streetdoctors.com
Yes, we are hybrid rappers.


I usually work high on the back with my legs because they're much stronger than my arms and it gives me more options to catch people sneakily. Not saying that's a better gameplan than working the RNC or threatening with the gi, but I don't feel like it's so much worse that it deserves to be shut down just 'cause it's on an Ari Bolden link.

2 arms are better than 1. 4 arms are better than 2. :goro:

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!


If you're doing some hosed up poo poo with your arms and legs up there you have to be careful to keep control of the body

westcoaster
Oct 26, 2010


niethan posted:

If you're doing some hosed up poo poo with your arms and legs up there you have to be careful to keep control of the body

Thats pretty much all I'm saying.

And I'm not really up in arms against submissions101. When I was starting out I learnt alot of gimmick techniques from them.

As for grappling websites, I'm a much bigger fan of grapplearts.com. I use a few tricks from that site all the time. Especially, his tips for finishing the RNC

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002


6 (six)


Since there really isn't any other thread to put this in...

Two girls qualified for the Iowa Wrestling tournament, the first two ever. Just qualifying is a pretty big deal. The tournament started this morning and one of them got pinned in the first round against a ranked guy.

The other won, because her opponent, who is 35-4 and had a decent shot at making the finals, forfeited due to not wanting to wrestle a girl, saying that wrestling a girl disagreed with his faith (http://iowaprepsports.com/featured/...-wrestling-girl).

Stupid kid, hope he loses his next match at never qualifies again. Leave the tournament to people that actually want to be there.

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henkman
Oct 8, 2008

I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT


What religion says you can't wrestle with girls? There are plenty that would have something to say about wrestling dudes.

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