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Janin posted:have you ever used a nexus s? it's easily as good as an iphone 4, and much better than a 3g/3gs you know, as long as you don't care about things like "battery life"
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or is "being able to use the phone somewhat frequently over the course of the day without recharging" just some crazy use case that no one should care about? i mean who wants to actually use their phone amirite???
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Feb 7, 2011 23:27
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well you see, i carry around a usb charger everywhere i go, and any time i am near a usb plug i just jam that right in there for some juice sometimes people on the bus look at me weird when i plug into their laptops tho
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Feb 7, 2011 23:32
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Don Lapre posted:The nook isn't sold as a tablet. It works fine out of the box as an e-reader. yes but you were presenting it as a "tablet" in the same class as an ipad or galaxy tab it isnt a "good tablet" if you have to do severe nerd fuckery to it to get it to even have close to the same features, let alone how the thing compares on actual usability once you've completed this arcane procedure
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Feb 8, 2011 00:25
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like you cant have it both ways. either it's a tablet that doesnt work as a tablet out of the box but you can hack it so it sort of passes as one, or it's an ereader that works as an ereader out of the box and not a tablet and in either case it doesnt compete with the ipad/galaxy tab because both of those devices actually work for the purpose you buy them for when you pull them out of the box
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Feb 8, 2011 00:27
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Ryouga Inverse posted:and in either case it doesnt compete with the ipad/galaxy tab because both of those devices actually work for the purpose you buy them for when you pull them out of the box lol the ipad needs you to connect it to a computer before you can use it this is totally comparable to having to download software made by some random idiot on the internet and install it on your brand new embedded device
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Feb 8, 2011 00:28
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Don Lapre posted:Its sold as an e-reader that can be used as a tablet with fuckery, which right now it does really shittilly. I never claimed it competes with galaxy tab or ipad. oh you were replying to someone that thought it was good. ok i see now like dont get me wrong. there is def a market for that sort of thing, let's call them "nerd not included" devices. it's awesome that there are devices that cater to that niche but is it really too much to ask that the build quality be decent? it's just like, the "argument" against iphone is/was "one sku from one company on one carrier". but look at all these loving tablets from ces. in what way does having so many garbage tablets that all run their own unique blend of the same os benefit people at all? are there really enough variations on desired feature sets that you could have that many high quality devices? i'm all for competition, i understand that it's required in order to get maximum progress in a space, but this is just loving retarded. no one wants to pick a tablet from tens of almost-identical knockoff pieces of junk. not end users and not hackers either. it's like they think nerds don't notice build quality or dont care about it. why waste time hacking a device to do cool poo poo if the device itself is trash?
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Feb 8, 2011 00:36
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Janin posted:galaxy tab doesn't work for anything well im sure the 85% or w/e of people keeping them are using them for something but i dont know what
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Feb 8, 2011 00:36
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i mean they arent even trying. its like all these companies read all the nerd blog responses to the ipad announcement/release and wrote down all the things that nerds complained that the ipad didnt have, then tried to add them to their own devices not a single one of those devices has a new feature that makes you go "why didn't they do this before?" they are all developed from the same philosophy of "people say that they don't like the ipad because it doesn't have already-existing feature x, why don't we just make one that has that feature?" for competition to be beneficial more than one competitor has to be coming up with new ideas, otherwise it's just a bunch of cargo cult idiots playing follow the leader
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Feb 8, 2011 00:41
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hmm some people say they would like the ipad more if it had an sd card slot, let's make our device have an sd card slot and all those people will buy our device
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Feb 8, 2011 00:42
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Ryouga Inverse posted:well im sure the 85% or w/e of people keeping them are using them for something but i dont know what i was going to say that it probably makes a pretty good tray to put plates and stuff on, i actually use my ipad for that surprisingly often but then i remembered it's 7" so it doesnt even make a better flat surface than the ipad
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Feb 8, 2011 00:46
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Janin posted:toshiba's tablet actually, honest to god, has a big "our batteries are user-replaceable" section in its feature list well you see, we could have spent a lot of money trying to make our tablet's battery life come within striking distance of the ipad's but instead we decided that we should just sell extra batteries that you can lug around and replace mid-movie it's win-win, you get to decide how much battery life you have and we get tons of money from extra batteries!! oh and also you probably cant take extra batteries on an airplane. something about being able to trivially turn them into explosives. enjoy the one movie you might be able to watch on a single charge!
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Feb 8, 2011 00:55
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look it's still a killer feature even if you only use it like once the entire time you have the device!!
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Feb 8, 2011 01:59
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Glumwheels posted:If you don't own an iPhone or iPad already you need to get over your irrational hatred of the industry leader. It's not apples fault they make the best seriously like there are reasons to own non-iphone phones i guess. but stop trying to act like you got the "best" phone. you didn't. the best phone is the iphone. if the iphone doesn't do something you need to do, then you can get another phone, but that phone is still not the best phone, just the one that works for you.
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Feb 11, 2011 23:02
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KNEELB4ZOll posted:
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Feb 13, 2011 19:48
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fishmech posted:by your definition the iphone 4 on verizon was vaporware on february 1st lol had to check and make sure this wasnt a janin post
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Feb 14, 2011 03:51
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Chajusong posted:2011: The Year of Linux on the Desktop on the Tablet my favorite part of that review is quote:It’s very clear that a $500 tablet is impossible for anyone but Apple to build without cutting corners. APPLE IS OVERPRICED CRAP THEY HAVE SUCH HUGE PROFIT MARGINS THEY OVERCHARGE FOR EVERYTHING
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Feb 14, 2011 22:36
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fishmech posted:ext4 is actually a decent performing file system tho, yaffs was basically just some random open source file system for the internal flash memory that google was using as basically an interim matter. arent there actual good filesystems designed for flash storage that they could be using instead of ext4, a hack on top of a hack on top of a lovely fs
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Feb 14, 2011 22:37
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Atasi posted:This is the closest I think they've ever come to talking about it in depth publicly, it's not too detailed but it is neat to see the machines they use to go from solid block to laptop enclosure. they also took those reporters on tours of their 2 million dollar antenna testing facility when they had that retarded fiasco also one of the engineers mentioned that the antenna had been tested for 3 years before they stopped letting the engineers answer questions
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Feb 15, 2011 05:07
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what is this posted:its like if there's an elephant walking around all the time, and suddenly a giraffe shows up, you're like oh zoo animals, that must be a thing here i like this post because it has giraffes in it
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Feb 15, 2011 23:34
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VERTiG0 posted:super stardust hd on ps3 owns so much
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Feb 16, 2011 22:50
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A "modest 5% market share of Android-based tablets in 2011". so what, that's like six units? really shooting for the moon there.
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Feb 17, 2011 18:29
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haveblue posted:android based tablet market i plan on capturing a modest 10% market share of unicorns in 2011
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Feb 17, 2011 18:32
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Ryouga Inverse posted:really shooting for the moon there. Janin posted:Way to shoot for the moon, Dell. im glad im not the only one that thought that exact thing the minute i read that sentence
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Feb 17, 2011 20:31
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unfortunately the other person that thought it was janin, so it's kind of a pyrrhic victory
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Feb 17, 2011 20:32
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it's hilarious that they've settled on "android-based tablet" as the new thing that everyone's not making. for a while everyone was saying "media tablet" when it was obvious they really meant the ipad but just didnt want to acknowledge that there isn't anything in that category that isn't the ipad now they are defining their success metrics by the market share they have of tablets that aren't the ipad. you can't make this poo poo up
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Feb 17, 2011 23:52
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"Also we feel that our features are better than the iPad but we don't really know how. Just a feeling."
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Look I mean you can watch videos on the iPad and you can watch videos on our tablet also you can run apps and stuff i guess oh and browse the web! see?? totally competitive.
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Feb 18, 2011 00:34
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graph posted:dualcore and still can't solve interface lag lol but i thought the solution to all problems was just to throw more hardware at it???
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Feb 18, 2011 00:39
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qirex posted:I really wonder how long it's going to be for the rest of the electronics industry to finally begin to understand that confusing consumers with 80 million specs and numbers and slightly different product versions is short money but look it's really easy for us to just slap some commodity hardware in a case and throw a commodity os on there and sell it. why would we spend money doing anything else? i mean, everyone else is doing that too, so it can't be wrong
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Feb 18, 2011 00:42
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johndis posted:ahhh well honestly there was a point at which the tech specs were working even though consumers as a whole didnt really get what they were buying (people confusing ram and hdds etc etc), and this poo poo is still kinda working in the hdtv market. at the time the tech specs were the main thing, like you could compare things based on tech specs and the one with higher numbers was better this was also the period where you would basically have an obsolete piece of poo poo six months after you bought anything, though but now consumers have figured out that the tech specs don't matter because in general the numbers are close enough to make no difference and when the numbers are wildly different most of the time it's because one of the vendors is gaming the system somehow
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Feb 18, 2011 02:34
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RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:I remember I once convinced myself a Rio Karma would be better than an iPod... never again i bought a creative zen once it was basically a 2.5" hard drive with a faux metal shell and the worst loving interface and the worst loving software. yes, worse than itunes
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Feb 18, 2011 06:14
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haveblue posted:seriously what non-entertainment software package needs more than 9GB of install and couldn't be replaced with download on demand probably all of them, given that they need more than 9gb of install
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Feb 18, 2011 21:00
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RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:Hm yeah let me just pay full retail for the privilege of downloading this 20GB program hm yeah let me just pay full retail for the privilege of getting some bits on a physical flimsy piece of plastic that must be either shipped to me through the mail or purchased from a physical store that I have to go to, and will never be used again once the bits are copied to my hard drive, instead of sending me the bits through the bit pipe i have connected to my computer
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Feb 18, 2011 22:10
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but i really want a piece of lovely plastic that will probably get scratched up and be completely worthless in a year!!! this is definitely worth the impact on the environment from the physical transportation of bits
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Feb 18, 2011 22:12
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also you certainly can't purchase plastic discs in bulk packages of 25 or more that you can put the bits onto yourself, saving at least 24 more trips to the store or whatever
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Feb 18, 2011 22:13
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no you dont understand the bits are warmer when they come off plastic, the internet removes all that character
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johndis posted:in all honesty i am willing to pay a little bit more for fast, high quality digital distribution than some piece of poo poo packaging/media that just adds friggin clutter, but im thankful everyone else says digital stuff should be cheaper heh the only reason you think digital stuff should be cheaper is because you are devaluing the product because you dont think it's "real" if you don't get a bunch of physical paper and plastic with it sometimes digital stuff should be cheaper, like when you can't resell it, or when a significant part of the cost of the item is the physical material the former case applies frequently, the latter case only applies with actual printed material but all other things being equal, if you're just getting a bunch of bits, those bits should cost the same whether they're delivered over a wire or through the mail
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