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Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

fatherdog posted:

I was actually planning on asking the admin if I could arrange a couple people per event to be able to make Custom Title bets with each other - no odds involved, just betting on a fight, whoever wins gets to give the loser a custom title that they have to wear for a month.

But the answer is no, it's not kosher, because even with a low limit if you're bookie-ing with Bodog odds you're essentially acting as a bookie, and that creates legal liabilities because the laws around that in the US are draconian and not well defined, and PSP is currently public-viewable.

wait, I thought people bet custom titles and stuff all the time?

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fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

by Lowtax


Xguard86 posted:

wait, I thought people bet custom titles and stuff all the time?



I perhaps phrased that a little confusingly. Betting custom titles is fine and dandy. What he originally asked was whether he could

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bookie for anyone wanting to put low stakes around a $10 or so limit (Favorites to win $10, Underdogs risk up to $10) with Bodog odds through Paypal

which is not fine and dandy, for the reasons stated.

jeffersonlives
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."


That's also very against the Paypal terms of service, among other issues.

Lurkee Mcgee
Jun 5, 2006


Do most of you guys just use Bodog? Or is 5dimes better?

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.


I've never used 5dimes but the customer service on Bodog was always nice and easy to work with whenever I had a problem.

don't bet on mma though please for the love of jonny bones god don't.

EdRush
Dec 13, 2005

What is all of this madness happening with our solar system

Anything on http://www.sportsbookreview.com/recommended+list/ will probably give you roughly similar service except for Pinnacle--they have the best odds on virtually everything but no bonuses to speak of. Pinnacle is a must if you are outside the US.

SGRaaize
Jan 19, 2011
DONT YOU DARE TELL ME HOW THE FUCK TO HAVE FUN IN VIDEOGAMES!!! OR TO READ THE FUCKING OP!!!!

I don't waste money on Gambling, but I'm having a lot of fun with MMAPlayGround
I bet 500 fake dollars, earned 410, pretty good

ForbiddenWonder
Feb 15, 2003



I can personally recommend 5dimes.

Clamps McGraw
May 6, 2009

The Deadliest Crotch


Grimey Drawer

I was in Vegas for 106 in 2009, my first live UFC. I put six bets on six fights totalling $200. I bet on Snuffleupagus, Alves, Li'l Nog, Koscheck, Sadollah, and Griffin.

I won every single one and make about $170.

Since then, my record has been about 6 correct bets from perhaps 25 fights. Still up about $40 lifetime though!

nocturama
Dec 26, 2007



Gomi Pile posted:

one of you guys with the autism compose a win % thing for the ufc based on corner colour. so like how often does the blue corner win?
i remember reading once red gloves win more on average but that might have been for am. boxing

ForbiddenWonder
Feb 15, 2003



I'm thinking about taking Sergei tomorrow, what about the rest of ya'll? I don't have much faith in Andrei at all.

FantasyMissionForce
Jun 21, 2009

Rocky? This is a military action! He's not suitable!


i dont really know why you'd have more in sergei. if nothing else arlovski is in better shape

i dont bet and have no strong opinions on the outcome though so dont listen to me

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

*~ayoo comin thru~*


Sergei has barely fought in the last few years, and Arlovski is horrifically inconsistent. That's a fight that I just wouldn't touch. If I was really pressed I'd be more tempted to bet on Arlovski based on how Sergei got lit up by Jaideep, who doesn't hit as hard (I think) but there's really no good reason to bet on either one of em.

ForbiddenWonder
Feb 15, 2003



I wasn't thinking anything serious, just 10 or 20 bucks. I'm betting more on Andrei being horrible.

Gomi Pile
Jan 19, 2011

by Ozmaugh


ForbiddenWonder posted:

I'm thinking about taking Sergei tomorrow, what about the rest of ya'll? I don't have much faith in Andrei at all.

i have a pile of money in a bodog account, and can't get it out because you need a copy of your previous paycheck to verify your identity or whatever. i will put all of it on the sergei.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

*~ayoo comin thru~*


Bodog doesn't work that way, but feel free to put all your money on Sergei anyways.

Gomi Pile
Jan 19, 2011

by Ozmaugh


attackmole posted:

Bodog doesn't work that way, but feel free to put all your money on Sergei anyways.

I guess they changed it in the last few years. I'm still betting it all on sergei.

Fentry
Mar 7, 2003

ain't no bitch

I really should I have put more money on Sergei, that fight went exactly how I expected it to

ForbiddenWonder
Feb 15, 2003



Gomi Pile
Jan 19, 2011

by Ozmaugh


i'm gonna eat next week.

fawker
Feb 1, 2008

ARMBAR!

Fedor ruined my parlay, but when I heard Bigfoot had rehydrated to 292lbs and Fedor was training same as usual (hitting tires in Starry Oskal) I place $20 on Bigfoot at +350.

NEVER DO PARLAYS

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

"I'm not laying underneath a grown man with my legs spread on worldwide TV. Some guys subscribe to that theory, but I'm a Republican, and we don't do that."




3 for 3 on bets


bets on Bad Overeem, Big Foot, and Sergei

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

"I'm not laying underneath a grown man with my legs spread on worldwide TV. Some guys subscribe to that theory, but I'm a Republican, and we don't do that."




fawker posted:

Fedor ruined my parlay, but when I heard Bigfoot had rehydrated to 292lbs and Fedor was training same as usual (hitting tires in Starry Oskal) I place $20 on Bigfoot at +350.

NEVER DO PARLAYS

yea, believe that was covered

they are the worse

Dagon
Apr 16, 2003



ForbiddenWonder posted:





oh mmaplayground, how you tempt me into betting real money

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

"I'm not laying underneath a grown man with my legs spread on worldwide TV. Some guys subscribe to that theory, but I'm a Republican, and we don't do that."




Dagon posted:



oh mmaplayground, how you tempt me into betting real money

when were the odds +640 irl?

Fentry
Mar 7, 2003

ain't no bitch

mma playground odds can be way different than any betting sites since they're based on the picks on the site

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1


Strikeforce was talking about it being something like +540

FantasyMissionForce
Jun 21, 2009

Rocky? This is a military action! He's not suitable!


i tried to sign up on bodog just for fedor/silva but apparently i already had and never used my account and had no idea what my login was and i didnt bother trying to find another site

don't not bet on mma

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

After tonight all I can say is Bet On MMA.

Big Bob Pataki
Jan 23, 2009

The Bob that Refreshes

Always bet on Brazil

Elmo Oxygen
Jun 11, 2007

Kazuo Misaki Superfan #3

Don't make me lift my knee, young man.

I made an obscene amount of MMAPlayground secondary league money tonight.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006


always bet against arlovski

red19fire
May 26, 2010


After the Strikeforce event on Saturday, is it better to place bets on Strikeforce fights over UFC? With the UFC being more mainstream, I would expect the odds to be more rational. Whereas Strikeforce, being barely above B-league, should be more susceptible to wild, exploitable variations in odds.

If I hadn't completely forgotten about Strikeforce this weekend, I would have bet a pretty penny on Silva.

Will Fedor still be a strong favorite in his next fight, if he doesn't retire?

Ninja PD
Jul 21, 2006


There is no one organization that has easier fights to win money off of, rather you have to look at specific fights for specific edges. Lesnar was pretty much the UFC version of Fedor on the betting lines, except Lesnar wasn't a massive favorite all the time but you could still get a good line at even or so. Things you look out for are like unknown but skilled underdogs making their debuts or when the Frankies fight the BJs, wrestlers vs europeans (or pretty much anyone), and other edges like that.

Strikeforce has a tendency for squash-ish matches, the last 3 or 4 events could run under 2 and half hours put together which leads to popular fighters being massive favorites to relatively unknown opponents. Sometimes these opponents are actually very good and if you identify this edge then you should go for it. Remember however, if you think of something there are probably thousands of other bettors thinking the exact same thing so those handicapping edges may not last long.

WEC and generally any Japanese organization were notorious for having giant favorites get upset, but only once in a while, and then we think how obvious that pick should have been in hind sight. If you were truly, fully, wholy, 100% going to bet Silva to win that fight you would have placed money asap; something made you forget about it or you didn't prioritize yourself properly because in reality you weren't very confident in the pick, and now you are kicking yourself for not acting on a half thought hunch you had weeks ago. It happens to everybody but don't go betting expecting massive dogs to be winning consistently.

Edit - this being said, depending on the next opponent, we can probably expect Fedor to be a lot closer to even than we have ever before. His stock has fallen but I doubt we will ever see him be a giant underdog.

Ninja PD fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2011 around 07:47

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!


Depending on how Overeem/Werdum goes I'm not sure he'd be the favourite against Overeem should they find a way to sneak him back into the bracket.

Lurkee Mcgee
Jun 5, 2006


Am I wrong to think that the odds for Bispin/Rivera are completely wacked? Bisping at -350? I'm very tempted to put money on Rivera, here.

freud mayweather
Jan 29, 2009



Lurkee Mcgee posted:

Am I wrong to think that the odds for Bispin/Rivera are completely wacked? Bisping at -350? I'm very tempted to put money on Rivera, here.

bisping is gonna do british doubles on jorge until he gets him down and then get a tko stoppage.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

by Lowtax


freud mayweather posted:

bisping is gonna do british doubles on jorge until he gets him down and then get a tko stoppage.

This is still the most likely outcome but honestly Rivera has a way better chance than -350; that's not a bad bet imo.

Save Russian Jews
Jun 7, 2007

who the fuck is this guy anyway, i can't even see his face


Lipstick Apathy

Never bet against Bisping if there is even a chance he can ruin your night

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Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Its been implied but no one has outright said it:

Don't bet on every card, sometimes there just is not anything worth throwing money at. Don't waste your bankroll because you feel obligated to have some action (or because you have a gambling problem). Minimizing loss is half of making profit.

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