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jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire


If you're able to, do a full export of your config and then wipe the Mikrotik.

Put on your config line by line (like past basic routing) and see when the error starts with rancid not collecting data properly. That way you can at least see where the problem lies.

Basically make sure you're not using any defaults and try to understand each line that the Mikrotik uses on its script when you do a full export.

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Actuarial Fables
Jul 29, 2014



Taco Defender

I'm considering dipping my toes into MikroTik by picking up this switch for my home lab. My experience with MikroTik was 10 minutes at a client site trying to figure out what the heck was going on and why the WiFi died so I don't really know what I'd be getting into.

Coming from a Cisco + Ubiquiti background, how much trouble would I have with this switch?

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



Fallen Rib

I have one of those. The interface and feature set is pretty basic, but it fits the use case of "inexpensive, 10G ports, and does VLANs."

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Actuarial Fables posted:

I'm considering dipping my toes into MikroTik by picking up this switch for my home lab. My experience with MikroTik was 10 minutes at a client site trying to figure out what the heck was going on and why the WiFi died so I don't really know what I'd be getting into.

Coming from a Cisco + Ubiquiti background, how much trouble would I have with this switch?

Eh, probably not much. They are a little different to manage but its simple for a network guy to learn imo.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire


Learn to use Winbox to connect to a device via MAC neighbor, which is basically a Ethernet serial connection.

Then do an /export command and look at what is already on the device by default. This is very Cisco-style as everything listed is a command you could enter on your own, line by line.

Then zero out the config via:

/system reset-configuration no-defaults=yes skip-backup=yes

To get rid of lame defaults you don't need.

The biggest weirdness about Mikrotik switches right now is that they compressed switch code into software bridge code, and it does some sort of magic on the fly to decide if something uses a switch chip or software routing.

So to make a switch, simply make a bridge and add ports to that bridge. Quickest way to start working with a MT switch and at least have it functional while you learn other stuff on it;

/interface bridge
add name=SwitchLAN
/interface bridge port
add bridge=SwitchLAN interface=ether2
add bridge=SwitchLAN interface=ether3
add bridge=SwitchLAN interface=ether4
add bridge=SwitchLAN interface=sfp1
...etc

Note: the Layer2/MAC address winbox connection lets you get in without needing a serial cable or IP on a port, but it makes the connection really shaky, especially when doing bridge ports above. Just reconnect if you get dropped until you can eventually get in via Layer3.

I have to use Cisco everything at my new job and I kinda miss Mikrotiks. I don't miss how flakey the hardware can obviously be, but I do miss that under 30 second boot time to rule out if something just needed a fukken reboot to fix!

jeeves fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Apr 10, 2020

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



Fallen Rib

That's good advice for a CRS running RouterOS, but the CSS line only runs SwOS which only has a web interface. If you get locked out of a SwOS device you have to do a config reset and log in with the default IP.

Actuarial Fables
Jul 29, 2014



Taco Defender

Thanks! I'll start seriously looking at my budget to see if I can afford this.

I was also looking at the CRS version as well. The ~$50 price increase could be trouble, but if it makes it more fun then I'll have to consider it.

jeeves posted:

I don't miss how flakey the hardware can obviously be
Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire


SwOS is pretty lame. I forgot it exists because I think one of the inherent strengths of Mikrotiks is the flexibility of RouterOS.

As for Mikrotiks being flakey, they're just known to not be the top tier of quality of other stuff, but that's what you get for being able to buy them for 1/10th the price of anything else. As long as you keep them up to date on their firmware and know that they'll most likely need to be rebooted once every three months or so you'll be fine.

Most complaints I've seen with them are old greybeards who treat them like Ciscos and never update the suckers ever and then complain that they got hacked from an exploit that was patched like a year ago.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

Don't use them for Wi-Fi (unless it's their own proprietary PtP/PtMP links). Other than that, I have no issue with their kit.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Thanks Ants posted:

Don't use them for Wi-Fi (unless it's their own proprietary PtP/PtMP links). Other than that, I have no issue with their kit.

Whys that? Ive installed a billion HAP2s and they work great for the money.

Actuarial Fables
Jul 29, 2014



Taco Defender

Decided to go for the CRS model over the CSS. It was delivered today so I've been playing around with it, and so far I've managed to get myself locked out three times by messing up vlan config. I think I've got a handle on it now - the main issue was that I didn't realize that you have to set a pvid value on the port itself in addition to adding the port as untagged in the bridge vlan config.

In the process of moving my lab over to this switch now. Thanks again for the advice!

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire


Mikrotik's definite lack of hand holding makes dealing with vlans being a pain. It sounds like you got through the worst of it.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Life at last
Salutations from the other side


Plaster Town Cop

It didn't help that things would break if you enabled tagging or disabled or moved things to interfaces or bridges in the wrong order.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof


Probably a long shot since this thread hasn't been ping'd in like 5 months, but if anyone is interested I found an RB2011 hiding in my bin of routers.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3896193

Actuarial Fables
Jul 29, 2014



Taco Defender

Guess I'll update on my CRS-326 experience.

It's good!

Ran into some beginner traps though - I created a bonded interface using the balance-rr mode, which seemed great because my virtualization servers have multiple gigabit interfaces and my storage server is connected on one of the 10g ports, but the CRS326 can't hardware offload that mode so I ended up with sub-gigabit speeds until I did some benchmarks and discovered my error. However, after getting it set up correctly I haven't had to touch it and really that's the end goal for networking equipment.

The biggest issue with the switch isn't even about the switch itself, but the power adapter. It's this clunky wall wart that I can't fit on my UPS. I had a spare passive PoE adapter from a UniFi AP so I've just been using that to power the switch instead. Not sure why they went with passive PoE input instead of 802.3af/at, but whatever.

Once I find a steady source of income I'm considering upgrading my virtualization servers to 10gbit and picking up a CRS305 to connect them to my storage server, but until then I'm happy with the 326.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

I keep stock of a bunch of (local equivalents) of these for situations where I need to get power bricks away from the PDUs they are plugged into https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35047

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