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spacebard
Jan 1, 2007

Football~


Captain Vittles posted:

Sleeping in Amor is a good idea.

Also, you can always go back to Madame Luca for advice. She'll at least give you a pointer - even if it's kind of vague. The party chat for it is pretty good too.

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n0manarmy
Mar 18, 2003



My four favorite RPG's ever have to be Dragon Warrior I, II, III, and IV. I never got the cursed necklace in the NES version of DWI. I've probably played through all of the Nintendo versions more than half a dozen times each.

The morning I beat the Dragonlord in DWI, I was probably 7 or 8, I ran upstairs to wake my friend, who stayed the night, telling him all about it and how excited I was. He was one of those types that could sleep all day if they didn't have a game to play. I was on a mission...to kill the Dragonlord!

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007




I preferred the "fake" ending to DQ 8, felt a lot more romantic to me.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

SpaceDrake posted:

Also JEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUS, what the gently caress happened to the price of DQV? I didn't get a chance to pick it up when it was new and now it's like $75 on Amazon. And Gamestop doesn't even have any used copies in stock!

Does anyone have any idea where I could get a copy for a sane price?

Gamestop. You'll need to check in-store availability and hope you get lucky because you can't get it through the website anymore. I mean, you can get it on eBay but it's going to be $50+ after shipping, while if you get lucky with a local Gamestop it's $34.99 + tax.

Just... Don't try to get the guide.

Genpei Turtle
Jul 20, 2007



Manos del Sino posted:

DQVI talk:
The mini game is seriously curling? Curling? Ugh. Is there any point to it? I just cleared all the courses and didn't get anything fancy for doing so.

Curling? In DQVI?

That's gotta be a DS-only addition.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Genpei Turtle posted:

Curling? In DQVI?

That's gotta be a DS-only addition.

It is. It's just a mini-game.

So far I've only seen one minigame in Dq6, and it didn't have any prizes for winning...maybe later in the game it will. I'm only 3 hours in.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Genpei Turtle posted:

Curling? In DQVI?

That's gotta be a DS-only addition.

Apparently the head guy wanted to add some new stuff in to the DS versions. I can't remember what DQIV got (maybe monster arena?), DQV got an extra bride and DQVI gets...curling.

One of these things is not like the others.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007



Mister Roboto posted:



Metal King Slime. Want So Hard.

Ornamented Death posted:

I can't remember what DQIV got (maybe monster arena?)

DQIV Bonus:
It's the bonus fight with Chow Mein and Foo Yung. You get new weapons/armor, the ability to revive Rosa and get Psaro, and some other stuff.

Genpei Turtle
Jul 20, 2007



Alpha Kenny Juan posted:

Metal King Slime. Want So Hard.


DQIV Bonus:
It's the bonus fight with Chow Mein and Foo Yung. You get new weapons/armor, the ability to revive Rosa and get Psaro, and some other stuff.

Actually that stuff--at least some of it--was in the PS remake of DQIV too. I don't think that's all stuff that's new to the DS version.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

So I give this all about equal odds of either going super well or, uh, gettin' us all killed. Messily.

So a couple of prayers from you guys wouldn't hurt, yeah?


Ornamented Death posted:

DQV got an extra bride

Not only that, but you actually meet Nera and Debora as a child, at least for a bit, meaning that it isn't completely out of left field to choose either of them for a bride now. Bianca's life still ends up sucking, but they made the bride thing an actual choice you have to think about, now. Especially with the party talk feature.

Awesomonster
Feb 26, 2008

Because there's always an ending.


SpaceDrake posted:

Also JEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUS, what the gently caress happened to the price of DQV? I didn't get a chance to pick it up when it was new and now it's like $75 on Amazon. And Gamestop doesn't even have any used copies in stock!

Does anyone have any idea where I could get a copy for a sane price?

Even if you find used copies at Gamestop they're something like $35. Its a complete shame that it got such a limited release due to DQIV selling poorly, especially since both games are excellent. I'm pretty happy that IX has been pretty popular here, it can only mean good things for the franchise.

Also, I covet those Liquid Metal and Metal King Slimes. How cute can you get!

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?


LooseChanj posted:

Huh? You run off with her regardless. I'm talking about beating the Ultimate dragon. It's actually called that, in case you gave up before getting it. And it takes A LOT of grinding to level up enough.
I just got the alchemy pot upgrade and the equipment you need for the good ending and just went after that point.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



SpaceDrake posted:

Not only that, but you actually meet Nera and Debora as a child, at least for a bit, meaning that it isn't completely out of left field to choose either of them for a bride now. Bianca's life still ends up sucking, but they made the bride thing an actual choice you have to think about, now. Especially with the party talk feature.

They removed nearly all of the guilt trip the SFC original laid on you if you didn’t pick Bianca, too. Especially the part with Bianca’s father dying.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Am I missing out on any easter eggs or story stuff if I play 6 before 4 and 5?

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007



Nah, not really. There's some homages to prior games, but the Zenithian triology has less obvious connections between the games than the Loto trilogy did.

You should still play 4 and 5 anyway though. Because they're fun.

mystery at hog island
Aug 16, 2003
Captain of Outer Space

Azubah posted:

5 is pretty drat hard to find for the DS for a good price, I only lucked out by finding it at a Kmart no one goes to. I was going to save it until I beat 4, good idea or bad idea?

This is uncanny. I scoured the net and every shop in my area and couldn't even find a used copy. Then I wandered into a bumfuck Kmart and there were two copies sitting in a rack with clearance PS3 games. I probably wouldn't have even looked in the DS section on that trip because I was in a hurry. What luck

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Speedboat Jones posted:

Am I missing out on any easter eggs or story stuff if I play 6 before 4 and 5?

If you can stand the slight de-evolution back to 4, then...I would actually say that IS the order to play them in. Once you get to the end of 5, you'll see what I mean.

Mountaineer
Aug 29, 2008

Imagine a rod breaking on a robot face - forever

It's so nice to have a casino again after DQIX didn't have one.

Or maybe it's a bad thing. I already cleared out the gift shop, so maybe I should stop playing slots now.

It looks like the remake still has that obtuse bit where You have to wear the Noble Garb to get into Somnia Castle. Sure there's an NPC who basically tells you to do that, but it's still a non-intuitive solution since there aren't really any other times in the series that your equipment affects story progression. I wonder how many first-time players will get stuck there.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007



Genpei Turtle posted:

Actually that stuff--at least some of it--was in the PS remake of DQIV too. I don't think that's all stuff that's new to the DS version.

I looked it up and could only confirm the DQIV extra pandemonium gear but nothing else.

Since, as far as I know, the PSX version was not released in the US so it was more like a "If we haven't seen it it's new to us!" kind of thing.

drat this thread is making me want to play all the DQs I have in order much like the Zelda thread. I don't know if I could do both series in 2011! Something tells me that i'm gonna try still.

I saw 1 and 3 looking for the zelda games, but 2 is missing somewhere. DQ4, 5, 6 and 9 are all DS so that's easy enough. DQ8 my brother has. DQ7 has eluded me

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Awesomonster posted:

Even if you find used copies at Gamestop they're something like $35.

That's a good price when you look at what the game goes for on Amazon and eBay.

BreakTargets
Apr 5, 2009

Just a random Spiral Knight...


Mister Roboto posted:

Time for some Dragon Quest memorabilia from the Square store in Tokyo:

(insert pics here)

...holy poo poo. Now I really want to go to Japan.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

More VI talk:

The thing I was missing was the whole "buy noble garments" part, but I managed to figure it out after a while longer. I was loathe to spend money on the rags, but I eventually did, gained entrance to Somnia and all was good. From there, I breezed the next few parts without consequence, and now I'm at the part where I have to go to Murdock's (?) cave.

I just got Ashlynn in my party and Ra's mirror and the rest of my team is around level 15. Nothing had been a challenge up until I reached this cave, and now suddenly I'm not just outclassed, I'm way outclassed by the mobs here.

Did I skip some parts of the story or side quests or something that are supposed to buff me up before I attempt this?

Manos del Sino fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2011 around 19:18

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



Asimo posted:

Nah, not really. There's some homages to prior games, but the Zenithian triology has less obvious connections between the games than the Loto trilogy did.

I would say that going around and collecting the exact same equipment for similar purposes counts as a fairly obvious connection.

Yes, the equipment you collect toward the end of DQ6 is the Zenithian equipment, but renamed to match different owners the equipment had throughout the history of that particular world.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Manos del Sino posted:

Did I skip some parts of the story or side quests or something that are supposed to buff me up before I attempt this?

Nope, the game just takes a small leap in difficulty at this point. There's a few spots with metal slimes available for quickly grinding out a couple of levels. I find it helps to take the cave in two trips - one to poke around for treasure, and the second to make a straight run for the boss. Since you won't be facing the boss on the first run, the only MP you need to conserve is for Evac to get you out.

LordAndrew
Jul 13, 2009

Walking death machine equipped with the knowledge of Nuclear.


Yes, a Dragon Quest megathreaddd.

I remember the first time I played a Dragon Quest game (Dragon Warrior VII, to be exact, my mom rented it for me one day) and loved it. I never got far into it though. Eventually I picked up the Gameboy Colour versions of I and II and beat both of those (and eventually did a Let's Play of the first one).

I also have VIII and IX but I've only beaten the former.

I've never played III, IV, V, or VI; does that make me a terrible person?

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

I've been browsing online for how much copies of DQ5 sell for. And I keep coming across: "Warning: This game only works for the DS and DS Lite. It will not work with the DSi."

This is people trying to sell a pirated copy, right?

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

So I give this all about equal odds of either going super well or, uh, gettin' us all killed. Messily.

So a couple of prayers from you guys wouldn't hurt, yeah?


Speedboat Jones posted:

I've been browsing online for how much copies of DQ5 sell for. And I keep coming across: "Warning: This game only works for the DS and DS Lite. It will not work with the DSi."

This is people trying to sell a pirated copy, right?

Mmhmm. Another reason I'm not particularly sanguine about trying to buy a copy online.

Poe
Jul 22, 2007


Speedboat Jones posted:

I've been browsing online for how much copies of DQ5 sell for. And I keep coming across: "Warning: This game only works for the DS and DS Lite. It will not work with the DSi."

This is people trying to sell a pirated copy, right?

Yes. Pretty sure you can't run a pirate cart on it with default firmware.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Poe posted:

Yes. Pretty sure you can't run a pirate cart on it with default firmware.

Well drat, if only I had known this game would turn into the next Xbox and PS2 version of Marvel Vs Capcom 2.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



“LordAndrew” posted:

I've never played III, IV, V, or VI; does that make me a terrible person?

It means you have work to do.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Also, what outlets do us neato modern gamers have for playing DQ 1, 2, and 3 again?

edit: I mean like reprints and such.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

Speedboat Jones posted:

Also, what outlets do us neato modern gamers have for playing DQ 1, 2, and 3 again?

edit: I mean like reprints and such.

I don't know, but if they were offered on the Wii channel, I'd actually make my first purchase.

SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!


Speedboat Jones posted:

Also, what outlets do us neato modern gamers have for playing DQ 1, 2, and 3 again?

edit: I mean like reprints and such.

they came out on Gameboy Color.
And nothing since.

(Yuji Horii made a comment about Wii versions, so I suspect that the next set of remakes will probably be the "Loto Trilogy" for Wii.)

LordAndrew posted:

I've never played III, IV, V, or VI; does that make me a terrible person?

Yes.
You need to fix this mistake and play them. Especially V.

SereneCrimson fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2011 around 21:36

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


LordAndrew posted:

I've never played III... does that make me a terrible person?

Yes. DQ3 is a perfect capper to the Erdrick* trilogy. The GBC release has two bonus dungeons; go play that one if you can.

*Loto is a dumb name.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



“SereneCrimson” posted:

(Yuji Horii made a comment about Wii versions, so I suspect that the next set of remakes will probably be the "Loto Trilogy" for Wii.)

I really hope not. IMO, ArtePiazza’s efforts should go towards Dragon Quest VII on 3DS and a 1080p HD version of Dragon Quest VIII for consoles.

Agnostic watermelon
Jul 1, 2009

I'm a lil' Brony!

Terpfen posted:

I really hope not. IMO, ArtePiazza’s efforts should go towards Dragon Quest VII on 3DS and a 1080p HD version of Dragon Quest VIII for consoles.

Can you imagine an HD remake of VII


[e] Or even better, HD sprites!

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



Agnostic watermelon posted:

Can you imagine an HD remake of VII


[e] Or even better, HD sprites!

That would be incredibly massive and probably not worth the effort. Better to just use the engine developed for DQ4DS-6DS, spruce it up for the 3DS—can we get a little anti-aliasing?—and import VII’s art assets to that enhanced engine. Hell, VII is the inspiration for IVDS-VIDS anyway.

Now, VIII… that demands the latest in HD cel shading. The goal should be to trump those new Dragonball Z games.

Mikael Kreoss
Feb 13, 2011

by Fistgrrl


quote:

A Dragon Quest Megathread draws near! Command?
Twinhits+QuadHits

I would totally buy a DS remake of Dragon Warrior Monsters 1/2

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Well, DQ5 certainly took a dark turn. Watching Pankraz beaten in-battle was strangely moving. Normally a game would just kill off a character in cinematic fashion but no, you have to watch this dude suffer pathetic amounts of damage slowly over the course of 10 or so turns before he's obliterated. He loving takes it like a man, too.

Terpfen posted:

That would be incredibly massive and probably not worth the effort. Better to just use the engine developed for DQ4DS-6DS, spruce it up for the 3DS—can we get a little anti-aliasing?—and import VII’s art assets to that enhanced engine. Hell, VII is the inspiration for IVDS-VIDS anyway.

Now, VIII… that demands the latest in HD cel shading. The goal should be to trump those new Dragonball Z games.

Level-5 is working on this little beauty.



I actually had a nerdy wet dream about DQ10 looking like that.

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LooseChanj
Feb 17, 2006

Logicaaaaaaaaal!


So what console am I gonna have to buy to play 10?

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