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GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Palmtree Panic posted:

Sugiyama was a real bastard & a mediocre composer. The music of Dragon Quest is the weakest part of the games.

Rest in piss fucker.

:yeah:

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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

On top of everything else said here about the guy, I also remember hearing he was president of Japan's equivalent of the RIAA. So you can thank him for Japan's draconic music copyright laws.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
The organizations Sugiyama belonged to specifically were the Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers, and Publishers notable for such things as trying to collect copyright fees from music schools, and the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, which as you might guess from the highly suspect name was a think tank for Nippon Kaigi, the big ultra-nationalist party that wants to rewrite the Japanese constitution to allow for a standing army and legality for human rights violations.

Sugiyama didn't just have "views" or "opinions" (not that this vile poo poo is ever just an opinion) but he actively put time, money, and effort into making the world a shittier place for anyone who isn't a straight old Japanese man

gently caress him and gently caress his legacy.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Fortunately you can and should fully enjoy all the DQ games without giving him even an iota of thought.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
smokin on that sugiyama pack tonight

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
I dunno I found it hard not to think "man, Sugiyama loving blows" every time DQXI's battle theme started up

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

So who's a good pick to replace him? My first thought is Yoko Shimomura.

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
https://twitter.com/geomijulpod/status/1446168990091563013

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Blockhouse posted:

I dunno I found it hard not to think "man, Sugiyama loving blows" every time DQXI's battle theme started up

That's fair. The battle theme in DQ11 does blow, and it's perfectly fair to give that credit where it's due.

Ran Rannerson
Oct 23, 2010
In fact I will enjoy Dragon Quest even more now that this motherfucker is dead and can no longer materially benefit from the series.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Electric Phantasm posted:

So who's a good pick to replace him? My first thought is Yoko Shimomura.

Yuzu Koshiro

gently caress it do both

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Electric Phantasm posted:

So who's a good pick to replace him? My first thought is Yoko Shimomura.

Soken.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

he already has a protege who will almost definitely replace him

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Who is the composer Sugiyama would have hated most? I want that person.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Elephant Ambush posted:

Who is the composer Sugiyama would have hated most? I want that person.
whoever does the music for genshin impact, seeing as theyre chinese.

Senator Drinksalot
Apr 30, 2013

Kiss me up, touch me, fuckin' rock my world holmes, I don't care
He wasn't particularly fond of Koreans either

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Elephant Ambush posted:

Who is the composer Sugiyama would have hated most? I want that person.

a gay chinese teen releasing orchestra music for free

Ran Rannerson
Oct 23, 2010
Yeah I believe the guy who will replace him is Hayato Matsuo, who worked on Ogre Battle and Shenmue and a few songs in FFXII. I think he’s pretty alright from the stuff I’ve heard.

With that said, I think it’d be best if they had an all star team tackle a future Dragon Quest. It’s a goddamn cultural institution, let a bunch of big names like Soken and Shimomura and so on go apeshit on the series.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
As a Korean, the recent news has greatly lifted my spirits.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

The biggest dq shitposting group on fb is now down, and was full of chud's and literal "Aryan martial individualist" saying it wasn't a problem and it was the woke leftists who only care about this, and "don't forget Wagner" loving people are poo poo

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
wtf else do you expect from facebook posting? you'd have a better chance finding a single worthwhile human being in a pornhub comment section.

Ryaomon
Mar 19, 2007
Ask me about being a racist piece of shit with a racist gimmick

Electric Phantasm posted:

So who's a good pick to replace him? My first thought is Yoko Shimomura.

hot dad

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Electric Phantasm posted:

So who's a good pick to replace him? My first thought is Yoko Shimomura.

There's gotta be tons of great gay Touhou fans that're musically talented right?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

GreenBuckanneer posted:

The biggest dq shitposting group on fb is now down, and was full of chud's and literal "Aryan martial individualist" saying it wasn't a problem and it was the woke leftists who only care about this, and "don't forget Wagner" loving people are poo poo

don't use facebook, problem solved

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




:yeshaha:

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!
Square Enix can just pay Masashi Hamauzu to take over Dragon Quest and that would make me pretty happy. Bonus boss tracks by Soken.

Hit or miss Clitoris
Apr 19, 2003
I HAVE BEEN A VERY NAUGHTY BOY

I'm playing Dragon Warrior VII for the first time, playstation version. I'm really bummed I missed out on this when I was younger, this would have been right up my alley at 15 when it came out. It reminds me of earth bound a lot in the writing and the way the NPCs move around. I mean I know EB is a DQ clone but this feels like it was translated by the same guy almost.

I'm very excited that this game is supposed to be over 110 hours long, this is a very fun time. So far I'm at the second town where everyone was turned to stone, and I went ahead to a dungeon that doesn't seem necessary to the plot of this area. It's nice having something like a side quest after having only played 1-4+11, and coming right off of 3 for my first time. I was debating playing this or 5 first, and I think I made the right choice. Still looking forward to playing 5 some day.

Should I worry about leveling in this at all? Is this game pretty easy, or should I not overlevel? Using an emulator and fast forward through most battles that aren't bosses, to cut the tedium of random encounters, and it seems pretty easy so far.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



The game isn't too hard, I played through it last time with everyone but the Hero on AI control at basically all times and did just fine. You actually don't want to grind too much because each area has a level cap that will make getting job levels more difficult later.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Hit or miss Clitoris posted:

I'm playing Dragon Warrior VII for the first time, playstation version. I'm really bummed I missed out on this when I was younger, this would have been right up my alley at 15 when it came out. It reminds me of earth bound a lot in the writing and the way the NPCs move around. I mean I know EB is a DQ clone but this feels like it was translated by the same guy almost.

I'm very excited that this game is supposed to be over 110 hours long, this is a very fun time. So far I'm at the second town where everyone was turned to stone, and I went ahead to a dungeon that doesn't seem necessary to the plot of this area. It's nice having something like a side quest after having only played 1-4+11, and coming right off of 3 for my first time. I was debating playing this or 5 first, and I think I made the right choice. Still looking forward to playing 5 some day.

Should I worry about leveling in this at all? Is this game pretty easy, or should I not overlevel? Using an emulator and fast forward through most battles that aren't bosses, to cut the tedium of random encounters, and it seems pretty easy so far.

It's one of the easiest DQs. There is a TON of stuff to do in the game so if you decide to complete a lot of the content you're going to be over-leveled but it's not like you'll steamroll all the bosses. Just have fun and do whatever seems fun at the time.

Hit or miss Clitoris
Apr 19, 2003
I HAVE BEEN A VERY NAUGHTY BOY

Hell yeah this is a great chill out after work game then. By level caps, do you mean I'll be restricted from levelling further than say level 10 in the area I'm in, just as an example? Like I'll stop accruing exp or is there some indication I'm at cap?

I'm really loving this game, I get why it sold so well in Japan and was overlooked in the US at the time. It's the most dragon quest of all the dragon quest games I've played, and that wasn't the style at the time here. But drat this game rips.

I've been saving my seeds per a suggestion from a friend until the end of disc 1, I'm guessing that's about the time I'll find my last party member? Should I just blast all these seeds into the hero rather than hold them?

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



I usually have the Hero scarf most seeds, yeah. It's easier than holding on to them, the bonuses are worth more in the early game, and the Hero is a party member you're fairly certain will stick around, so you're always getting the benefits.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Personally I always minmax. I save seeds until 2/3 or 3/4 into the game and then distribute them based on primary role. Fighters get STR and DEF and HP, mages get MAG and MP, etc.

It's also perfectly fine to just feed them all to the Hero but I feel like that's overkill.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I give seeds to whatever party member is active at the time with lowest stat value of whatever the seed is, because I like to protect my friends.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Hit or miss Clitoris posted:

Hell yeah this is a great chill out after work game then. By level caps, do you mean I'll be restricted from levelling further than say level 10 in the area I'm in, just as an example? Like I'll stop accruing exp or is there some indication I'm at cap?

I'm really loving this game, I get why it sold so well in Japan and was overlooked in the US at the time. It's the most dragon quest of all the dragon quest games I've played, and that wasn't the style at the time here. But drat this game rips.

I've been saving my seeds per a suggestion from a friend until the end of disc 1, I'm guessing that's about the time I'll find my last party member? Should I just blast all these seeds into the hero rather than hold them?

the way the level caps work in the original 7 is that jobs level up based on number of battles. if you were too high leveled, then battles in a given area stopped counting toward job progress. it was pretty lenient, so you'd have to do some serious (and unnecessary) grinding before unlocking jobs for it to have any effect.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
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Hit or miss Clitoris posted:

Hell yeah this is a great chill out after work game then. By level caps, do you mean I'll be restricted from levelling further than say level 10 in the area I'm in, just as an example? Like I'll stop accruing exp or is there some indication I'm at cap?

Once you unlock the Job system, NPCs will tell you you need to fight X number of battles to level up your current Job, but fighting weak battles won't count (so you can't, like, go back to the first area with combat and just grind out every Job). Each area has a Job experience level cap, where once you pass that level the battles will no longer count towards leveling Jobs. However, every new location on Disc 2 has a level cap of like 99 so it's really not an issue you need to worry about.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Commander Keene posted:

The game isn't too hard, I played through it last time with everyone but the Hero on AI control at basically all times and did just fine. You actually don't want to grind too much because each area has a level cap that will make getting job levels more difficult later.

Is there a difficult dq made in the last 20 years?

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

DQ11 has a hard mode, it's not insanely difficult but you might at least need to think about what you're doing in boss fights. They even had to nerf a few parts when they ported it to Switch and PC.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Tabletops posted:

Is there a difficult dq made in the last 20 years?

DQ8 had a few challenging parts at least in the PS2 version. It was easier once the party came together and their kits fleshed out. The difficulty spikes didn't mess around.

Not a lot of options the last 20 years tbh.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Dhoulmagus 2 was a bastard

DQ7 is hard

Hard not to fall asleep to!!!

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TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

DQ8's final boss seemed to be a "Do you have a Timbrel of Tension (Or Morrie) Y/N" check.

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