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spacebard
Jan 1, 2007

Football~


Mister Roboto posted:

Also, how are you guys making so much cash in the DQ6 casino?

I keep losing flat out and never make anything in the slots. Poker I make slightly more, but since I don't really know how to play Poker I lose there too...

I have terrible luck at the slots too. I had better luck at Poker, but only later in the game (J version) when the Double-Up didn't suck.

In other news, time to have some fun with classes. Carver is going to be a fabulous dancer

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Rothgil
May 12, 2008


I dont know if it's something specific to this island, but gamestops here still have new copies of DQ5 in stock.

I wouldnt mind picking one up for someone when I go get DQ6 one of these days.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


The key to winning in DQ casinos is to remember that, thanks to the ability to save and reset, you essentially have infinite wealth. As long as you don't save after blowing your seed money, you can just reset and blow it all again on risky high-yield bets, e.g. the 100 token slot machine. It'll probably take hours of mind-numbing repetition to see results, but it's all worth it when even a low-multiplier win returns a decent amount of tokens.

Poker should be avoided at all costs, though, because I swear the Double Up is rigged. That or I have the worst luck in the world.

LooseChanj
Feb 17, 2006

Logicaaaaaaaaal!


Captain Vittles posted:

Poker should be avoided at all costs, though, because I swear the Double Up is rigged.

If you've ever played on an emulator and messed with saved states, yeah, it kinda is. At certain points anyway. There have been times when I chose high, lost then chose low and got a higher card. Those situations are common enough to be annoying, but not a serious game killer.

Agrias120
Jun 27, 2002

I will burn my dread.


I just got to the point in DQV DS that I van recruit monsters in my party (and am going after the lion monster who is terrorizing the local town). I've had one monster total try to join me, and he is only level four. It's Hell trying to level him myself, will dropping him off at the monster babysitter be more effective?

LooseChanj
Feb 17, 2006

Logicaaaaaaaaal!


Agrias120 posted:

will dropping him off at the monster babysitter be more effective?

I don't think they level at all in there, it's just a storage place.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

I had pretty good luck with the slots when I went for the riches. I started with a 2000 gold bankroll (100 chips) and just maxed the cheapest slot until I had roughly 1,200 chips. From there, I moved up to the next slot machine at max bet until I hit ~10K, and from there I spun the richest slot until I hit several 30,000 jackpots (which is only middling on the pay scale for the best slot machine.)

I did have to reload once after losing my bankroll on the middle slots, so that's cheating but whatever. It could have been worse/taken longer.

Cyberventurer
Jul 9, 2005


Agnostic watermelon posted:

Considering I lost to him like 3 times, I don't think so .


Seriously what is up with him? the only one who can do any significant damage to him is carver with knuckle sandwich. Not to mention he loves using icy breath and lightning in the same turn.

To be honest I'm just guessing here, but this was a helpful tip for me to beating him for the Snes fan translation version.

Take your priest friend's staff and give it to someone else. It's an infinite-use healing item so the priest can use his MP healing while someone else uses the staff. If Carver has the fire claw, take it off of him and give it to whoever didn't receive the staff. It's usable as an item to cast Blazemore / Frizzle, which did damage comparable to the punch. Abusing the staff and claw this way will effectively double the amount of damage and healing you have available.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



Saoshyant posted:

Actually, the way you phrased it, I expected something horrible typical of IGN. That was in fact pretty tame and mostly honest. Not everyone is going to enjoy DQVI and it's in fact not as good as DQV, which is what the reviewer based its score on.

First, DQ5 was given an 8.9. DQ6 is not 1.9 points worse than DQ5.

Second, DQ5 and 6 are roughly equivalent in quality in my view. 5 has an overall better plot, 6 has a better battle system and has more of an adventurous feeling. Even if one doesnít think 6 is as good as 5, itís not 1.9 points worse.

Lastly, the DQ6 review is about how itís an old JRPG and how the reviewer doesnít have time to play perceived unimportant JRPGs. The implication is that heís dismissing some obscure title for not being flashy enough.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001
Messenger of Trance

Terpfen posted:


Second, DQ5 and 6 are roughly equivalent in quality in my view. 5 has an overall better plot, 6 has a better battle system and has more of an adventurous feeling. Even if one doesnít think 6 is as good as 5, itís not 1.9 points worse.


Unless they changed something drastically in the DS version, 6 has the best gameplay in the whole series. It ends up being about if you genuinely like RPG gameplay or not; if you don't particularly like RPGs you will without a doubt hate 6. If you trudge through them because you like the way they present stories, you might be a little disappointed. If you are an old school RPG enthusiast and like RPGs because you like to play RPGs (quite honestly very few people who grew up with more modern games are) then 6 has the best take on the old system. It is grindy, but not too grindy like 7. You have more customization than anything by 7, which leads to the most variations on gameplay. Most of the game is very challenging and hard to cheese or overpower through, and the fact that the customization is open-ended could make for some interesting handicapped playthroughs. The length is also very appropriate, and there is a fair amount of hidden and post game stuff to do.

So basically anyone who gives this game a mediocre or bad review simply has straight up disdain for classic style console RPGs.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



ďBabyRyogaĒ posted:

So basically anyone who gives this game a mediocre or bad review simply has straight up disdain for classic style console RPGs.

A winner is you.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Terpfen posted:

First, DQ5 was given an 8.9. DQ6 is not 1.9 points worse than DQ5.

Second, DQ5 and 6 are roughly equivalent in quality in my view. 5 has an overall better plot, 6 has a better battle system and has more of an adventurous feeling. Even if one doesnít think 6 is as good as 5, itís not 1.9 points worse.

Lastly, the DQ6 review is about how itís an old JRPG and how the reviewer doesnít have time to play perceived unimportant JRPGs. The implication is that heís dismissing some obscure title for not being flashy enough.

IGN's reviews of "niche" games are terrible because they usually stick someone who absolutely hates the genre to review the game. I'll never forget their God Hand review which was 2 pages of "This game is too oldschool and hard to be enjoyed by anyone."

The dude who reviewed DQVI is a huge sidescroller fan as evidenced by his game collection, blog posts, and Mega Man avatar.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

This is cute.

The King of Somnia has some white-collar criminal named Keating in jail.

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



al-azad posted:

IGN's reviews of "niche" games are terrible because they usually stick someone who absolutely hates the genre to review the game. I'll never forget their God Hand review which was 2 pages of "This game is too oldschool and hard to be enjoyed by anyone."

The dude who reviewed DQVI is a huge sidescroller fan as evidenced by his game collection, blog posts, and Mega Man avatar.

Theyíre supposed to give the game a fair shake regardless, but I guess thatís impossible.

Vakal
May 11, 2008



In DQ6, what does the kamikaze bracelet accessory do? The in-game description is vague.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Vakal posted:

In DQ6, what does the kamikaze bracelet accessory do? The in-game description is vague.

If you die while wearing it, it casts the spell Kamikazee, which attempts to (and usually succeeds at) instakill all opponents. Older games may have called the spell Sacrifice, if that helps.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Terpfen posted:

Theyíre supposed to give the game a fair shake regardless, but I guess thatís impossible.

Their one page reviews include some of the laziest writing I've seen, probably written by interns or new editors. I can sum up Deadly Premonition's review.

I was anticipating this game but not really.

Story doesn't make sense.

Bad controls. Bad camera.

PS2 graphics.

Too long.

This game is dumb.

2 out of 10

mystery at hog island
Aug 16, 2003
Captain of Outer Space

Captain Vittles posted:

If you die while wearing it, it casts the spell Kamikazee, which attempts to (and usually succeeds at) instakill all opponents. Older games may have called the spell Sacrifice, if that helps.

The only time I ever had that kick in in DQIV was during a boss fight and it didn't seem to do dick to Estark

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


mystery at hog island posted:

The only time I ever had that kick in in DQIV was during a boss fight and it didn't seem to do dick to Estark

Something tells me the ruler of evil cannot be killed with an exploding bracelet.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009


al-azad posted:

Their one page reviews include some of the laziest writing I've seen, probably written by interns or new editors. I can sum up Deadly Premonition's review.

I was anticipating this game but not really.

Story doesn't make sense.

Bad controls. Bad camera.

PS2 graphics.

Too long.

This game is dumb.

2 out of 10
See also; God Hand

Game is hard, wah.

3 out of 10

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!



ConanThe3rd posted:

See also; God Hand

Game is hard, wah.

3 out of 10

Minus the 3 of 10 thing, thatís pretty much whatís been said about Ninja Gaiden for years.

Sad fact: itís not even really that hard.

n0manarmy
Mar 18, 2003



Dragon Quest 7 took me 3 years to beat. I printed out the 300+ page walk through from gamefaqs and picked it up and put it down more times than any other game. It was god awful long but in the end, worth it.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

n0manarmy posted:

Dragon Quest 7 took me 3 years to beat. I printed out the 300+ page walk through from gamefaqs and picked it up and put it down more times than any other game. It was god awful long but in the end, worth it.

I wonder if they'll remake it for the 3ds.

That might fill a lot of Japanese subway rides.

Senor P.
Mar 27, 2006
I MUST TELL YOU HOW PEOPLE CARE ABOUT STUFF I DONT AND BE A COMPLETE CUNT ABOUT IT


I've been wondering about this a while but did anyone try the re-release of DQV on the PS2(non-localized, but last I heard some people were making an Enligsh patch.)

Is there any difference content wise between it and the DS version or is it all graphics?

Senor P. fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2011 around 23:01

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007




Is there a place or person in 4 where I can figure out what I'm supposed to do next? I had to put the game down a while ago do to studies and now have no idea where or what I'm supposed to do.

KillRoy
Dec 28, 2004
I many not go down in history but I'll go down on you sister.

Rocket Slime is probably my favorite DS game, and a 3DS version would probably be the only thing that would make me pay 250$. That game was unbelievably fun, especially when playing multiplayer. Before that the only DQ games I had ever played were 7 and 8. I picked up 9 and loved it as well.

spacebard
Jan 1, 2007

Football~


Senor P. posted:

I've been wondering about this a while but did anyone try the re-release of DQV on the PS2(non-localized, but last I heard some people were making an Enligsh patch.)

Is there any difference content wise between it and the DS version or is it all graphics?

There isn't any WIFI capability or Deborah. The music is, however, orchestrated and fantastic. Translation-wise it has been localized, but in a different manner than how DQ5 DS was localized.



On a different note, does anyone know if Nintendo, GameStop, or Best Buy will be having DQ6 events like they did for DQ9? I know that Suite Dreams has a couple of secrets in it that require you to share dreamcards, and I don't have a subway ride to do that with or anything.

Myrmeleo
Jan 27, 2010

If only I had Earth Power...


Ugh, I think I hosed up in DQ6.

I was at Scrimsley and trying to help out Amos. I told him the truth because I thought he should be told. Now that I got the seeds of reason I come back to see he's nowhere around. Is he permanently gone???

Aside that, I think I like this version's way of handling vocations than in DQ9.

Agnostic watermelon
Jul 1, 2009

I'm a lil' Brony!

Myrmeleo posted:

Ugh, I think I hosed up in DQ6.

I was at Scrimsley and trying to help out Amos. I told him the truth because I thought he should be told. Now that I got the seeds of reason I come back to see he's nowhere around. Is he permanently gone???

Aside that, I think I like this version's way of handling vocations than in DQ9.

Wait, when does the jobs open up?

Poe
Jul 22, 2007


Agnostic watermelon posted:

Wait, when does the jobs open up?

After you beat Murdaw in the real world Alltrades opens up in the dream world. You can walk there in the Dream world or teleport using the well in Alltrades ruins basement in the real world.

Mr. Trampoline
May 16, 2010


Myrmeleo posted:

Ugh, I think I hosed up in DQ6.

I was at Scrimsley and trying to help out Amos. I told him the truth because I thought he should be told. Now that I got the seeds of reason I come back to see he's nowhere around. Is he permanently gone???

Aside that, I think I like this version's way of handling vocations than in DQ9.

Yeah, he's gone. If you don't tell him the truth and then get the seeds he joins your party. I didn't really like him that much, his only unique skill is turning into a monster which makes him uncontrollable for the rest of the battle. He's a physical fighter, but doesn't get any unique skills like Carver so I benched him after a couple of fights.

Now Terry, there's a character the game is making me look forward to.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Myrmeleo posted:

Ugh, I think I hosed up in DQ6.

Yep, you did. It sucks, but it's not game-ending so don't worry about it too much.

Poe posted:

After you beat Murdaw in the real world Alltrades opens up in the dream world. You can walk there in the Dream world or teleport using the well in Alltrades ruins basement in the real world.

Fun hint! Go back to Madame Luca and she'll upgrade your Zoom spell to allow you to use it to switch worlds. Whenever you switch this way, it dumps you in front of Alltrades Abbey.

ZarathustraFollower
Mar 14, 2009




Lipstick Apathy

Hey, if you guys missed the DQ VI slime preorder bonus, go ask your local gamestop if they have any left over. I got 2 for free today, and I didn't even buy DQ VI (no money.)

(In Austin, the gamestop by Wal-mart on Anderson should have another one leftover)

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

Eegad, VI!

I've done a lot. I didn't realize the Abbey was open for a while after beating Murdaw, so I've progressed through a a few parts of the game before starting to master any classes. Now the hero and Carver are mid-20s and everybody in the party has one fully mastered class under their belts.

The last task I accomplished was escorting some sailor's mer-girlfriend back home, and now I think I'm supposed to patrol the undersea or something, but I'm not currently interested in doing that if there's more to see above ground.

Between the Flying Bed, Sea Vessel and Floating Island I have managed to explore most of both maps, but now I want to find another casino and none are showing up. I've read that two more available, but not where... Is there one I can go to that I should be able to reach already?

Also, are there good places to buy gear at this stage? I've got cash and I haven't upgraded my equipment in what feels like ages.

Finally, am I missing any recruits? I currently have Carver, Ashlynn, Millie, Nevan, Amos and Goowain. It seems like I should have come across more - and didn't I read something about slimes joining the party?

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Manos del Sino posted:

Between the Flying Bed, Sea Vessel and Floating Island I have managed to explore most of both maps, but now I want to find another casino and none are showing up. I've read that two more available, but not where... Is there one I can go to that I should be able to reach already?

Not yet.

quote:

Also, are there good places to buy gear at this stage? I've got cash and I haven't upgraded my equipment in what feels like ages.

For where you are plot-wise, just go exploring. There's lots of great free gear scattered throughout the world that you can get now. There's also many mini medals available you can trade in for nice stuff.

Look in every well you come across. Good things hide in wells... once you kill the bad things that pop out of them, at any rate. Save before diving into some on the world map, though... things get pretty hairy down one of the wells.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

Captain Vittles posted:

Look in every well you come across. Good things hide in wells... once you kill the bad things that pop out of them, at any rate. Save before diving into some on the world map, though... things get pretty hairy down one of the wells.

Yeah, I've investigated every well I came across, collected roughly 40 minimedals at this point and cashed them in. I've got hints and whispers about four pieces of legendary gear strewn about, but my access to them seems cut off still.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Manos del Sino posted:

Yeah, I've investigated every well I came across, collected roughly 40 minimedals at this point and cashed them in. I've got hints and whispers about four pieces of legendary gear strewn about, but my access to them seems cut off still.

Don't even bother worrying about the legendary gear until you fix that new hole you came across in the dream world.

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony


Soiled Meat

Captain Vittles posted:

Don't even bother worrying about the legendary gear until you fix that new hole you came across in the dream world.

Is that the hole that leads me to the Lucky Charms temple? I'm not sure where I go to find the combination to what appears to be a glyph-locked entrance.

Draile
May 6, 2004

forlorn llama

Fallen Rib

Mr. Trampoline posted:

Now Terry, there's a character the game is making me look forward to.

Don't get your hopes up. He's the cliche white-haired rear end in a top hat swordsman who suddenly becomes a weakling the moment he joins you. (See Dias, Star Ocean 2.)

To be a little more specific, Terry has no unique abilities. He starts as a rank one gladiator with warrior and martial artist mastered. By the time you get him you'll probably have more job progression than that. Also you'll have better gear, and enough 0 mp skills that the sunderbolt sword won't matter much.

But Terry is necessary to acquire one of the game's secret characters.

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Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

I just got all the Legendary Armor Pieces and the Sword.

Where do I go next?

edit: In DQ 6, I should have specified.

Zaggitz fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2011 around 14:35

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