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precision posted:DQ Builders is lowkey one of the best games in 10 years, everything about it is just a pure joy. I've never been into Minecraft or Terraria or anything like it, but the slick art style and easy controls for building had me making elaborate and insane forts for hours on end. Plus it's just so drat cute. Yeah but I hope the sequel has better combat tho
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I hope that builders 2 is as much of an improvement as DQHeroes 2 was over one. I wish that they released a dlc that was just a retread of dragon warrior. They had all the art assets to do it.
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bentacos posted:I hope that builders 2 is as much of an improvement as DQHeroes 2 was over one. I wish that they released a dlc that was just a retread of dragon warrior. They had all the art assets to do it. Is DQHeroes 2 really that much better than 1? If so then loving hell I need to get it, the first one is so good.
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Jan 22, 2018 06:40
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I thought they were just porting the first builders over to the Switch/PS4, are they actually just releasing the sequel then? Because if so that's pretty cool
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Jan 22, 2018 06:45
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bentacos posted:I hope that builders 2 is as much of an improvement as DQHeroes 2 was over one. I wish that they released a dlc that was just a retread of dragon warrior. They had all the art assets to do it. Dqh2 actually sucks compared to 1. They muddied the formula way too much
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Jan 22, 2018 07:20
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precision posted:Is DQHeroes 2 really that much better than 1? If so then loving hell I need to get it, the first one is so good. DQH2 is honestly what I hope they use as a basis for a remake of DQ1. They have all the assets to make it happen.
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Real hurthling! posted:Dqh2 actually sucks compared to 1. They muddied the formula way too much I think it's a good game, just not as good as its predecessor. I like the dimensional dungeons, even if some of them seem unfair.
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Heroes 2 dropped Yangus for Angelo and had nobody from 5, so it was already an inferior product before you even start playing. Plus the original characters kinda suck. Caidin fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Jan 22, 2018 08:47
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I wasn't so hot on Yangus in Heroes but then I played 8
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g0lbez posted:About ten hours into DQ7 and I think I can say with 100% certainty that this is THE most under-rated localization I've ever played through, maybe only a super minutely close second to Earthbound. Is this the one that ten hours finally gets you out of the beginning of the game or am I thinking of 8? I know one has an ungodly long time before your first fight, and then there's still a big pause before you fight more.
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Dizz posted:Is this the one that ten hours finally gets you out of the beginning of the game or am I thinking of 8? I know one has an ungodly long time before your first fight, and then there's still a big pause before you fight more. Yeah pretty sure it's 7. The dialogue is so great though that I'm able to put up with how goddamn slow this game is. I just had a guard scream "dash my wig!" at me and some old lady just referred to a couple's argument as a "dingdong"
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bentacos posted:I hope that builders 2 is as much of an improvement as DQHeroes 2 was over one. I wish that they released a dlc that was just a retread of dragon warrior. They had all the art assets to do it. I've been holding off on DQH2 in part because I kept hearing people (inlcuding on these forums) say it had a bunch of steps backwards in quality. I still need to get around to finishing DQH1. I think I'm in the final stretch. Also that the co-op is about as badly designed and unfriendly as possible.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I've been holding off on DQH2 in part because I kept hearing people (inlcuding on these forums) say it had a bunch of steps backwards in quality. I still need to get around to finishing DQH1. I think I'm in the final stretch. Its a good game but its full of bullshit like walking 5 mins to get to missions instead of selecting them from a list that water down the experience of the first game The mp is set up to be pretty useless yeah
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Jan 23, 2018 03:15
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yeah I should probably actually finish Heroes, i'm pretty sure i'm near the end
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precision posted:yeah I should probably actually finish Heroes, i'm pretty sure i'm near the end Season 4 was pretty funny and campy, I found it to be a bit better than seasons 2 and 3, definitely. Just my two cents there DQ thread.
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Jan 23, 2018 04:23
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This all trades abbey poo poo is loving atrocious
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Jan 23, 2018 06:00
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g0lbez posted:This all trades abbey poo poo is loving atrocious I tried to warn you
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Jan 23, 2018 06:06
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Bongo Bill posted:I tried to warn you No it's cool at least the game showed me a glimpse of the cool thing I could have before stripping me of everything but the attack command and then making GBS threads all over me with unwinnable battles and the longest most difficult dungeon and boss combo in the game so far I really like that!
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g0lbez posted:This all trades abbey poo poo is loving atrocious I remember playing DQ7 on the PS1 and while the rug pull was bullshit I don't recall the dungeon stuff to be too awful but maybe it's somehow worse in the remake? Still prefer when it was called Dharma and not Dumb Pun #2847363098387638. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I remember playing DQ7 on the PS1 and while the rug pull was bullshit I don't recall the dungeon stuff to be too awful but maybe it's somehow worse in the remake? Dharma was also a pun.
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Jan 24, 2018 14:38
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Alltrades Abbey punnery hit its peak in 9 when Abbot Jack of Alltrades Abbey transforms into the Master of Nu'un Which is just inspired localization because I am quite sure it was a totally different pun in Japanese
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Jan 24, 2018 14:46
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Evil Fluffy posted:I remember playing DQ7 on the PS1 and while the rug pull was bullshit I don't recall the dungeon stuff to be too awful but maybe it's somehow worse in the remake? I had trouble with it, but I also remember it fondly just cause it's so weird.
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I for one had trouble with basically every part of 7 the first time, because I was awful at it and dumb and I miss that 
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Jan 24, 2018 15:19
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Shugojin posted:Which is just inspired localization because I am quite sure it was a totally different pun in Japanese To this day I don't think anything tops the twenty-hours-later "why is this early town named Zere" Zere Rocks joke
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Zere super good, but I have to add props to the plague-ridden city of Coffinwell, with Doctor Phleming (double pun!) Catarrhina, and finally Mayor Laria. e: also Benevolessence is the best term for the arbitrary mcguffin and exp you get for doing random JRPG quests and I'm said it's not a term that gets used in other games.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I remember playing DQ7 on the PS1 and while the rug pull was bullshit I don't recall the dungeon stuff to be too awful but maybe it's somehow worse in the remake? It wasn't that terrible I was just venting. Once I stopped being stubborn and used all the stat seeds I had found it became a lot more reasonable.
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Also this game is extremely good but I can't help but wonder if I would've hated the original. I can't imagine the ps1 version had the QoL improvements like an option to always see where you're at in the story so you're never lost, the ability to talk to party members at any time, the little fragment radar thing etc. edit: also there's no way the ps1 translation was anywhere even close to how brilliant this one is. It's a shame that this remake sold less copies than the amount of pages they had to translate g0lbez fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jan 24, 2018 |
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The slow combat speed is what killed the original PS version for me.
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PS1 version was also goddamn hideous, even for PS1 standards. They did a really poor job with the sprite scaling so everything looked like a crooked mess. Most of the battle sprites were ok, at least. The DS remakes of 4-6 used a similar engine but they improved the sprite issue significantly.
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g0lbez posted:Also this game is extremely good but I can't help but wonder if I would've hated the original. I can't imagine the ps1 version had the QoL improvements like an option to always see where you're at in the story so you're never lost, the ability to talk to party members at any time, the little fragment radar thing etc. Party chat debuted in 7, actually, and the dialogue is probably virtually 1:1 with the PSX version with how barebones it is compared to like, 5 or 6 where non-monster PCs have something to say about literally everything, like literally every NPC has a dialogue response from the party members. Which is a shame since Maribel and Ruff are top-tier party members and unlike best boy Yangus they don’t get much cutscene time. Everything else was added to specifically address the issues with the PSX version though, yeah.
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The PSX translation, from what I remember, was Fine. It wasn't as smooth or pun-ridden as the new one but considering the sheer length of what they were working on, and considering what other localizations I've seen on the PSX, they did a great job. Also they only has 9 characters for monster/spell names. I don't know if I actually have a point here, just every time I look up translating that game I learn a new thing. The original had twenty translators, five copy editors, and took a year. I don't really know if that's a long time for a game that size.
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Dizz posted:Dharma was also a pun. I also preferred Dharma, but I didn't realize it was supposed to be a pun. What's the pun?
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Nickoten posted:I also preferred Dharma, but I didn't realize it was supposed to be a pun. What's the pun? Daruma, those little doll things that the Japanese sometimes use to set goals in their life where they dot one eye, then dot the other when their goal was achieved. I think this gives them luck or something as well but I don't remember. I'm just assuming that Dharma is meant to be a pun because the player returns there many times to change vocations.
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The PS version of 7 also took like five years to get translated and released in the US so it was extremely dated by the time it came out.
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Weirdest part of 7's (re)translation was how "the ultimate spell" changed names from literal gibberish to something... that despite being perfectly coherent somehow managed to make even less sense. Seriously why did they call it the Great/er Leveller, what am I missing there? (spoiled the name because I don't want to ruin a minor plot beat for that poster up there  )
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Level the playing field, I think. It just falls into the weird trap where level already means other things with respect to character level or class level so it's kinda confusing 
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It’s been an age and a half, but isn’t great leveler’s gimmick that it’s a spell that casts a universal Freezing Wave?
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Last Celebration posted:It’s been an age and a half, but isn’t great leveler’s gimmick that it’s a spell that casts a universal Freezing Wave? It's just a really weird name. Not that Majustis/Gigastis was any better.
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The job system really just breaks the game in half doesn't it? Does this game ever get challenging again? I just got the flying carpet for reference
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