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Detective No. 27 posted:I really hate that their MMOs get mainline status. Especially when it's not brought worldwide. Just call it Final Fantasy Online/Dragon Quest Online you cowards. DQX actually has its story/setting tie in to the celestial stuff of 9 (and 11*?) IIRC. FFXIV is better than the last few non-MMO numbered FF games too so  FFXI is just kinda... there. * assuming 11 isn't tied to the Erdrick or Zenthian trilogies, beyond the MC's sword looking like a combination of Erdrick's sword and the Zenithian sword. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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I'm not commenting on the quality of the games themselves or their stories. Just that I don't think an online only/MMO game should be counted as a mainline entry. Especially since online event type content can and will be lost to time, relatively speaking. On top of that, Square definitely won't be don't a US release of DQX, so it's not even like it can get a fan translation later down the line. It would have been better to call it Dragon Quest Online.
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Jun 16, 2018 18:47
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Why is the boat travel so slow in DQ8? Every other game before that was super good about it but here it's tedious beyond belief.
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Jun 24, 2018 22:38
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Evil Fluffy posted:
XI stuff XI alludes to itself taking place in the same universe as and before DQ III, but it seems like more of an easter egg than a direct connection.
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Jul 5, 2018 19:25
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7 is charming as hell holy poo poo. Even maribel insulting you is weirdly endearing to me, and even though I'm only inn tbhea volcano island I really dig the idea of the vignette style storytelling. poo poo owns bones is what I'm saying
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Aug 5, 2018 17:54
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Charlie Bobson posted:7 is charming as hell holy poo poo. Even maribel insulting you is weirdly endearing to me, and even though I'm only inn tbhea volcano island I really dig the idea of the vignette style storytelling. poo poo owns bones is what I'm saying Only up to the Volcano? Well the good news is you have a good 70+ hours of vignettes to come! I don't wanna spoil anything but 7 has some incredible storytelling, and at times really hits you square in the gut.
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Aug 6, 2018 21:58
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Earlier in the year I finally got back into DQ7 and finished that up. And just today I beat DQ8 For the first time. 8 was really good, but I have to say that overall I got way more invested into 7. I still loved both of them, and the excitement for 11 is extremely high now.
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BabyRyoga posted:XI stuff 8 did something similar with Empyrean. I think this is something to just tie the Universe together in a very real sense, but still not really be any more consequential than 'Chobos' being in most every Final Fantasy.
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Aug 19, 2018 14:08
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I find it weird there's a church in Faerie Lea (DQ5). Just how did they get there?
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Aug 19, 2018 16:22
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Missionary work to convert those heathen faeries. XI is due out 9/4 but I'm neck-deep into an MMO at the moment so I'm not sure when I'll be playing it.
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Aug 19, 2018 16:47
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People are always neck deep in MMOs. Don't renew the monthly and play something different and fun when it comes out.
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Ofecks posted:Missionary work to convert those heathen faeries.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:do we have a Switch release date yet Nope. Not even for Japan.
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Aug 19, 2018 22:48
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Development on the switch stalled because their u4 engine was the outdated one for the switch.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:25
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Tae posted:Development on the switch stalled because their u4 engine was the outdated one for the switch. Do you have a source on this? I have an obstinate friend who is about to wait for the Switch version and complain about it, but can be talked out of it if he knew that there won't be a Switch version.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:26
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I mean, there will be one but they haven't even shown any footage of the Japanese version of it. It could be another year away for all we know. I think they suggested they'd show it at some show later this year but.. Yeah
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Bongo Bill posted:Do you have a source on this? I have an obstinate friend who is about to wait for the Switch version and complain about it, but can be talked out of it if he knew that there won't be a Switch version. Dragon Quest XI for Switch delay due to outdated Unreal Engine 4
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https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1034455647348314112 https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/1034426365418725376 https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1034433703622176769 https://twitter.com/gameinformer/status/1034429652260016129 Currently the reviews are looking extremely good.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:08
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Pumped for this. The reviews that aren't positive also don't seem to get the appeal of the series in the first place. Bring on the warm and comfy!
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Aug 28, 2018 16:15
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Are we really not getting a 3ds version of xi even though jp got one last year? 
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BurningBeard posted:Pumped for this. The reviews that aren't positive also don't seem to get the appeal of the series in the first place. Bring on the warm and comfy! Yeah, I haven't seen a truly negative review, just a few that say that it may be a bit too traditional for its own good. Fair enough for me, there are much worse things you can say about a game.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:21
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https://mobile.twitter.com/waypoint/status/1034425633835761664 Not all reviews are super positive. The ones that aren't are saying that it brings nothing new to the series or genre which I don't mind. DQ has always been a warm bath of familiarity.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:25
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I can't imagine reviewing a DQ game and then leveraging a critique of "doesn't change things up" when it's literally been the exact same game for over three decades.
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Not being a fan of the usual traditional DQ style is fine but I really dislike this part of the Waypoint review:quote:I spent more than a couple hours of my playthrough of the game getting to a boss, realizing that I couldn’t defeat it yet, and then going back to fight random monsters for half an hour to get the levels that evened things out and allowed me to jump the next hurdle. There was not thought, no strategy, and certainly no real active consideration on my part of how I needed to upgrade my characters or what specific choices I needed to make in the fight. Levels solved the problem every time, so I just got a couple levels. It's a problem entirely of their own making...they even admit to not using any strategy when they hit a brick wall! I usually like Waypoint so this review is a bummer to me.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:38
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dragon quest is supposed to be playable by all ages, because all ages do play it in japan. being able to get past tough spots by grinding levels is a deliberate choice so children can beat them, but it's not mandatory.
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Yeah I'm not one of those her dur games journalism types, but the negative reviews that I've seen are really clickbatey and reactionary. I suppose it's just critics grasping at straws because writing a review that amounts to more of the same doesn't drive traffic. I'm thrilled. I've never finished a single DQ despite my efforts but I'm gonna finish this one.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:49
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I think it's less clickbait and more the fact that grinding will always be a braindead strat that works outside of a tiny minority of games that punish you for it (and heck I'm okay with that when the player wants to grind and isn't acting like it's mandatory). This is far from the first jrpg to be tarred with that by its detractors tho, and certainly won't be the last.
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Yeah that's fair. I guess I expected, perhaps naively, that a series with the cultural capital that DQ has would result in some pulled punches or at least an acknowledgement that we know and understand the creative intent of the team. If I recall, DQ VIII was universally praised where the reactions this time are decidedly more cool. The scores don't reflect the text though. 89% on Metacritic last I saw.
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Dragon Quest has less cultural capital in the US though so maybe that's to be expected?
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The only review that matters is tim rogers' video review, whenever that comes out, imo. edit: oh poo poo its right on this page
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In Training posted:The only review that matters is tim rogers' video review, whenever that comes out, imo. It's a real good review, I was looking forward to 11 before but after watching his review I'm incredibly impatient now.
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i love tim rogers
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Srice posted:Not being a fan of the usual traditional DQ style is fine but I really dislike this part of the Waypoint review:  How can someone write that, have others (presumably) review it before publishing, and not at any point think "hey this kinda comes across as a person complaining they'd grind to beat bosses because they put zero thought in to their builds or combat strategy." It makes me think of the Octopath commentary where people would complain about combat being hard, when you can break things over your knee if you actually learned the game's combat system decent. I would love to see DQXI pull a MHW and suddenly sell an absolutely ridiculous number of copies in the west. It looks like all these reviewers played on the PS4 version though and nobody played on PC?
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elf help book posted:i love tim rogers there wasnt one second of clear game audio until minute 32 of this review, hes a genius
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I have no clue if y'all are serious about Tim Rogers or not.
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You think I would watch a 40 minute video as a joke? I've been a fan of his for a while now, I used to love reading actionbutton reviews and was overjoyed when kotaku gave this guy a budget. He's the only video game critic I like I think.
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Unlucky7 posted:I have no clue if y'all are serious about Tim Rogers or not. If anyone who says they like Tim Rogers isn't being sincere about it they deserve to be struck down.
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I mean whether you like the guy or not his review was the only one that wasn't shallow garbage that I saw. Unironically loved actionbutton fwiw. His DQV review is a treasure. unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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Unlucky7 posted:I have no clue if y'all are serious about Tim Rogers or not. I unironically like Tim Rogers and I don't care who knows it.
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I mean, I like the guy too, even when he can be long winded. I guess I am just more used to people dunking on him. Anyway, the guy calls it the best Dragon Quest since 5, which is to me, no small amount of praise. I feel like I need to confess something here: As much as I loved 5, I never did complete it. I stopped around the second time skip. It was way too depressing for me 
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