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I honestly can't remember the first three games because I played them so long ago. I really enjoyed IV's introductory chapters and that helps push it over V on my list. VII was great if you like grinding like I do, otherwise definitely not the strongest of the series. The vocation system is my favorite. I haven't played VIII, but I thought IX was exceptional, mostly for the post-game content. They found a beautiful system for doubling or tripling the numbers of hours a player might put into the game without making it feel like you have to do it.
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Quidnose posted:As an aside, did someone say they loved the prologue of IV? Cause it was, like, 3 seconds long for me. Did I do something wrong? I mentioned that I enjoyed the introduction chapters for each of the secondary characters in the party. It was the only DQ game that actually made interested in the story behind the tertiary party.
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Feb 17, 2011 06:53
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SpaceDrake posted:Also JEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUS, what the gently caress happened to the price of DQV? Used on eBay? DQVI talk: The mini game is seriously curling? Curling? Ugh. Is there any point to it? I just cleared all the courses and didn't get anything fancy for doing so. Also, I've reached Somnia Mk.II and I have no idea where to go from here. Some city in the south complained about their magic water tunnel caving in, and the King & Queen of Somnia are in a persistent sleep, but I can't find any actual quests. I haven't tried sleeping at the inn yet, though. I should probably do that.
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Feb 18, 2011 02:45
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More VI talk: The thing I was missing was the whole "buy noble garments" part, but I managed to figure it out after a while longer. I was loathe to spend money on the rags, but I eventually did, gained entrance to Somnia and all was good. From there, I breezed the next few parts without consequence, and now I'm at the part where I have to go to Murdock's (?) cave. I just got Ashlynn in my party and Ra's mirror and the rest of my team is around level 15. Nothing had been a challenge up until I reached this cave, and now suddenly I'm not just outclassed, I'm way outclassed by the mobs here. Did I skip some parts of the story or side quests or something that are supposed to buff me up before I attempt this? Manos del Sino fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Feb 18, 2011 |
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Feb 18, 2011 20:10
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Speedboat Jones posted:Also, what outlets do us neato modern gamers have for playing DQ 1, 2, and 3 again? I don't know, but if they were offered on the Wii channel, I'd actually make my first purchase.
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Feb 18, 2011 22:34
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spacebard posted:Yeah, I actually got killed by some garrrgoyles I just got through the area my second time trying, basically by spending some of the 12,000 gold I had been hoarding and making liberal use of consumables. It took nearly all of my MP, a dozen or more herbs, a couple amor essences, a magic water and a little luck, but I managed to defeat Murdaw. At least this time. I actually don't care for the DQ cliche of beating the boss early in the game only to have to repeat the battle near the end, but now I can move on. My characters all his level 17 before the final battle except for Ashlynn who was still <9. This is the first DQ game where I actually am stopping to be impressed at the level design. The Towers of Mirrors were really neat, and the darkened approach to Murdaw was frustrating but rewarding to puzzle out finally.
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Feb 19, 2011 02:36
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Agnostic watermelon posted:Out of curiosity did you use sap? Fighting two of the Gargoyles at once was harder for my level 14 dudes than Murdaw since he could only critical hit one person before I healed them with midheal. Yeah, I had both Ashlynn and the hero run sap on Murdaw as needed. The Grrrgoyles became manageable once I upgraded Carver to a steel sword and Milly learned Bang. I always love the Bang spells.
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Feb 19, 2011 03:13
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Please tell me that you are supposed to die during the second round of the second fight with Murdaw, because I'm going to be very disappointed otherwise.
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Feb 19, 2011 07:13
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Ah yes, gambling. I just spent the last 90 minutes raising a pot of ~70,000 tokens at the casino and now my duders are much better equipped for the fight with Murdaw. Are there more casinos or should I just buy a grip of Yggdrasil Leaves? edit: That fight went much better this time around. Manos del Sino fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Feb 19, 2011 |
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Feb 19, 2011 09:34
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I had pretty good luck with the slots when I went for the riches. I started with a 2000 gold bankroll (100 chips) and just maxed the cheapest slot until I had roughly 1,200 chips. From there, I moved up to the next slot machine at max bet until I hit ~10K, and from there I spun the richest slot until I hit several 30,000 jackpots (which is only middling on the pay scale for the best slot machine.) I did have to reload once after losing my bankroll on the middle slots, so that's cheating but whatever. It could have been worse/taken longer.
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Feb 19, 2011 18:51
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This is cute. The King of Somnia has some white-collar criminal named Keating in jail.
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Feb 19, 2011 23:23
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Eegad, VI!  I've done a lot. I didn't realize the Abbey was open for a while after beating Murdaw, so I've progressed through a a few parts of the game before starting to master any classes. Now the hero and Carver are mid-20s and everybody in the party has one fully mastered class under their belts. The last task I accomplished was escorting some sailor's mer-girlfriend back home, and now I think I'm supposed to patrol the undersea or something, but I'm not currently interested in doing that if there's more to see above ground. Between the Flying Bed, Sea Vessel and Floating Island I have managed to explore most of both maps, but now I want to find another casino and none are showing up. I've read that two more available, but not where... Is there one I can go to that I should be able to reach already? Also, are there good places to buy gear at this stage? I've got cash and I haven't upgraded my equipment in what feels like ages. Finally, am I missing any recruits? I currently have Carver, Ashlynn, Millie, Nevan, Amos and Goowain. It seems like I should have come across more - and didn't I read something about slimes joining the party?
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Feb 21, 2011 07:28
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Captain Vittles posted:Look in every well you come across. Good things hide in wells... once you kill the bad things that pop out of them, at any rate. Save before diving into some on the world map, though... things get pretty hairy down one of the wells. Yeah, I've investigated every well I came across, collected roughly 40 minimedals at this point and cashed them in. I've got hints and whispers about four pieces of legendary gear strewn about, but my access to them seems cut off still.
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Feb 21, 2011 07:41
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Captain Vittles posted:Don't even bother worrying about the legendary gear until you fix that new hole you came across in the dream world. Is that the hole that leads me to the Lucky Charms temple? I'm not sure where I go to find the combination to what appears to be a glyph-locked entrance.
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Feb 21, 2011 08:04
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I went to close my DS screen a couple days back and the case and a hinge cracked, and now my top screen is all flaccid and floppy. That's pretty lame. I'm still enjoying VI though. I've tracked down three of the legendary pieces of equipment including the rusty sword which is currently being restored to function by the good smith in thieftown or whatever. I think I know where to find the fourth piece so I'll be heading in that direction next. Besides the sword, I have the helmet and the shield - I imagine that body armor is next up. Am I nearing the end of the game? I've only managed to complete about two masteries with each character so far, so prestige classes are still a long ways off. I have a feeling I'll be at the end before I open up the best vocations, unless there's a whole new section of the game that opens up after I get this final piece of gear.
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Feb 24, 2011 03:29
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Another question: Is Dig useful for anything besides a random shot at one or two gold coins?
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Feb 24, 2011 05:52
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Okay, now what am I missing? I went through the events at Castle Graceskull, and when I get back to the ruined castle, there's no secret chamber when I inspect the area or anywhere near the area. Ra's Mirror didn't reveal anything either. Nothing my party or Madame Luca says helps.
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Feb 24, 2011 06:35
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psychoJ posted:Did you use the golden pickaxe where the staircase should be? That's what I was forgetting about! Thanks. edit: I just got my poo poo beat down by a goddamn castle. Manos del Sino fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Feb 24, 2011 |
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Feb 24, 2011 07:25
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Draile posted:There's a double-secret batch of treasure involved here, too: use the pickaxe in dream world Graceskull and you can loot the armory. The one with all the empty chests when you go there in the real world. That reminds me, I am still missing the key that allows me to open cell doors. Should I have already received that, or do I find it at some point after beating the giant flying Castle Kickass?
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Feb 25, 2011 02:01
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Captain Vittles posted:You could have found it already; it's underwater in a place you don't necessarily need to explore. My slime knight made it to rank 4 the first time I tried, and I haven't been back since to try him out since leveling and classing. edit: Manos del Sino fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 25, 2011 |
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Feb 25, 2011 05:29
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Falconer posted:Is class changing in DQ6 similar to DQ3 where most any mix of classes/roles will serve you well short of making everyone a Goof-Off? Seems so. My only suggestion would be to get your melee fighters trained in Martial Arts until they learn Roundhouse Kick because that's a pretty awesome ability that hits an entire group for 0 MP, so it turns their best weapon into an effective whip. Pretty much every fighting class comes with useful skills though. I haven't used much magic. I've been relying on the Staff of Ghent for healing 90% of the time, and most of my brawlers do far more damage with their weapons then my best mage can do with her second best spell (though Magic Burst is awesome for special occasions.) Even with Sage mastered, her spell damage lags behind the hero and Carver. That being said, even classes like Gadabout and Merchant aren't useless.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:22
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ParagonParadox27 posted:Life-long Dragon Warrior fan here, needing advice on which to play first: DQ6 DS or DQ9. I love both games so I'm going to recommend starting IX first just to open the daily shopping feature so you can start collecting gear that much sooner. I'm a whore for loot. If you're not a whore for loot, play VI first. It's a great game, but a bit less substantial and bit more dated.
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Regarding DQVI: Should I avoid going to the Dread Realm for as long as possible? My first foray there ended with me getting stuck and unable to find a path back to the real world, then eventually succumbing to a frighturn as my 1HP and reduced strength failed to save my life. Also, that series of battles starting with the citadel and culminating in the fiend Durham was pretty awesome. I felt like a champ after running through them with little struggle, only to be deflated upon reaching Despairville.
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Feb 27, 2011 03:01
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So, grind-time it is. I just fought my way to Mortamor. The bastard killed my primary healer in the first round. The rest of A-squad doesn't survive the next two rounds as a result, so the second string came in and barely managed to kill the son of a bitch, with about 13 HP remaining spread between three characters. And then Mortamor laughs at me, assumes his crinos form and punishes me for daring to take a breath.
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Feb 28, 2011 07:00
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Falconer posted:Meh, is there some trick to beating The Third Test other than spamming Kabuff to counter its constant use of Kasap? My healers (Ashlynn and Milly) keep getting gibbed in one or two hits since said boss is both quicker than them and does 40-50 damage to everyone when it's not doing 60-110 damage to one target with its 'normal' attack. Short of changing those two to warrior or martial artist just for this fight so they don't die so quickly and/or grinding levels, I can't think of a good plan. I got stuck there too. I just went and ground up an extra level and made sure I had the best gear available at that point and the fight went much more easily the next time I tried it. I'm pretty sure I had two people devoted to Kabuff and Healing every round, with the hero healing also whenever they other two fell behind, while Carver did most of the actual attacking.
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Falconer posted:I switched Ashlynn with Nevan too I preferred Nevan over Ashlynn right up until Ashlynn got her mojo back. Then she became my full-time magician, with the hero, Carver and Goowain rounding out the party (until I got Terry, who then replaced Goowain.) Goowain rules. The guy cleared the Slimopolis for me on my second attempt.
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Captain Vittles posted:What the heck did you train him as? At the time, Goowain had Warrior, Martial Artist, Priest and Thief mastered, while just starting on the Paladin track. He was level ~36 at the time. He's 40 now and Paladin is just a few battles away from final mastery. Woo. He also had Metal Slime Armor from the casino and that badass hit-everything flail from Greedtown. I haven't found Lizzie, unless she's the cureslime and I've just been ignoring her at the Inn. The only three slimes I have are Goowain, the cureslime and Goober.
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This Mortamor guy is a huge bag of dicks. When I first reached him, I was level 39 and only had a few mastered classes under my belt. That fight saw my first string wiped out in just a handful of rounds while my second string team managed to beat Mortamor's first coming, but died shortly after to the next stage of the battle. 10-20 hours later, I've grinded my team up to the low 50s and high 40s. Most everybody has mastered all or most of the lower level professions and at least one fully mastered secondary class, while working on the next. The Hero mastered Paladin, Gladiator and Hero and was currently working on Dragon, having over 600 HP going into the fight with Mortamor. And this time I found out that the bastard has three faces and the third one ripped my party apart. Again. He's a huge bag of dicks.
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Mar 8, 2011 19:45
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Draile posted:No because DQ6 is full of 0 mp abilities that hit all monsters. I disagree. The flail is brilliant and tokens aren't that hard to come by if you max bet the biggest slot. It took me probably two hours to save up enough for a flail and a few suits are metal king armor.
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Mar 12, 2011 20:16
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Draile posted:I guess the conclusion is that it really depends on your style. Towards the endgame I use the top-tier 0 mp attack all abilities pretty much exclusively. The flail doesn't offer anything to that style because the abilities are not weapon-dependent. But if you play differently the flail may be useful to you. What are your normal go-to skills? My dragon is an easy choice where most things are susceptible to C-c-cold breath or Scorch, but the other characters not so much. I tend to use multifists on things with high resistances, roundhouse kicks on low powered groups, gigaslash on more significant groups and double up on everything else. The flail works really well for spreading damage out across four or more enemies divided into multiple groupings.
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Chronojam posted:Alright, I've worked out a trade with another goon for if I can't find it around here... Infinite Space for Dragon Quest 5. Does it have multiple save slots, or will I need to overwrite his save? I'd rather not do that to the guy. I'm pretty sure you get three slots, so just keep his most current one if you want to be nice.
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