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Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010



Literally no-one in Keskusta, Kokoomus, or Butt-poo poo-Eating-Finns gives a poo poo about the constitution HTH.

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endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009


Anyone who guessed "wet fart" probably had been observing our government for a while.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


Sovun keskeisin asia on se, että hallitus perustaa 18 itsehallintoaluetta, mutta vain 15 sosiaali- ja terveyspalvelu-aluetta. Näin hallituspuolueet onnistuivat löytämään jonkinlaisen kompromissin riitaansa.

This wonderful himmeli sounds like just the thing to lower health care costs.

Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010




Viiltäing analysis.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

doverhog posted:

Sovun keskeisin asia on se, että hallitus perustaa 18 itsehallintoaluetta, mutta vain 15 sosiaali- ja terveyspalvelu-aluetta. Näin hallituspuolueet onnistuivat löytämään jonkinlaisen kompromissin riitaansa.

This wonderful himmeli sounds like just the thing to lower health care costs.

I thought you were kidding. It even worse than a simple compromise. It's convoluted and unnecessarily expensive one.

konna
Aug 1, 2005



Jerry Cotton posted:

Literally no-one in Keskusta, Kokoomus, or Butt-poo poo-Eating-Finns gives a poo poo about the constitution HTH.

That was not the point you angry man. Even if Sipilä gets his plan it *might* get shot down just like in Katainen's hallitus.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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I hate it when I'm right.

Yeah, this is the worst possible solution.

- You have 15 sote+administrative regions and also three extra administrative regions that have to combine sote with other regions. How will this work? The sote element will involve distributing the most tax money. Will there be an extra unified sote council between these two regions that the people in the two regions will vote for? Or will the two administrative councils agree on how sote is arranged for their combined sote region? All of this adds friction, bureaucracy and expense.

- Even 15 is probably too many sote regions to guarantee cost controls and equality in tax burden, like the constitutional scholars pointed out.

- The "money follows the patient" principle means we're going to see an arms race where private hospitals advertise aggressively for patients that would've gone to the public hospital previously, luring them with all sorts of expensive non-medically necessary procedures and creature comforts that will be paid by the tax payer and the money will go right to the tax haven accounts of the owners of private hospitals.

- Also, if the current hankintalaki type of acquisitional procedure is enforced on every public sector organization, it means an enormously expensive and bureaucratic hassle when everything needs to be put up for bidding.

It will not decrease costs, it will not guarantee basic rights to everyone, and it will line the pockets of the rich. Sure sounds like a perskeko decision.

I still have a slight hope that the privatization is not quite enough for the Kokoomus elite and they'll scuttle the deal but we'll see. They'll probably realize this is the best deal they'll ever get on privatization.

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konna
Aug 1, 2005



Antti posted:

- The "money follows the patient" principle means we're going to see an arms race where private hospitals advertise aggressively for patients that would've gone to the public hospital previously, luring them with all sorts of expensive non-medically necessary procedures and creature comforts that will be paid by the tax payer and the money will go right to the tax haven accounts of the owners of private hospitals.

According to this morning's hesari this is not part of the deal.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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In that case, if the privatization is not that direct, the kokoomus leadership may not swallow the deal.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Fallen Rib

Antti posted:

Teksti-TV has discovered the true source of political power in this country:



Sipe, Stube, Soini ja mä?

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Oh, so this crisis amounted to nothing. Boo!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Rexroom posted:

Oh, so this crisis amounted to nothing. Boo!

Wrong. It amounted to poo poo getting worse!

As Osmo Soininvaara has pointed out, Keski-Pohjanmaa will have its own autonomous region with a population of 68,000. With that rationale, Helsinki should be split into numerous smaller district councils that have an equal amount of power. Instead, we're going to get a system where you use a similar unit of administration for a region of 68,000 people and a region of 1,616,000 people. It's like how Wyoming and California both have two senators.

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Stefu
Feb 4, 2005



New thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3750450

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