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Muscle Tracer posted:I remember we had a discussion about how difficult it would be for untrained opposition forces to actually use artillery. Would it even be possible for untrained opposition forces to find, activate, aim, and deploy a chemical weapon? I think that depends entirely on how you define "aim," and whether the goal is to kill people or harass/demoralize people in a general area.
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Brown Moses posted:It's at least really clear now why Obama was doing everything he could not to bomb Syria. So much for Russia's amazing diplomatic skills. Sorry if I'm being dumb, if so feel free to make fun of me, but I don't follow. I see Russian totally-not-mercenaries being sent to ostensibly defend regime resources. Through a combination of fuckups on their part and getting comically dicked by the regime (I like the part where they were promised tanks and BMPs but got poo poo that wouldn't even go, so they had to move out in guntrucks) they accomplish basically gently caress-all, and then as icing get captured by opposition forces. Is the takeaway that Obama was letting Russia throw money in a hole, that Obama didn't want to blow up Russian operatives, that Obama was waiting for this to blow up in Russia's face, or what?
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Sacrilicious posted:No one is arguing that the US government is bad or hypocritical because it upholds these countries as bastions of the rule of law one minute and then condemns them for torture and human rights abuses the next. The argument is that the US government is hypocritical because it condemns tactics such as torture by regimes like Assad's on the one hand and then has a recent history of actively cooperating with those regimes (as you say, having known full well the people they turn over to those governments will be tortured) to have people tortured on the other (and at times hasn't even bothered with the outsourcing part), and thus its hard to take its pious condemnations of such things very seriously. I'm not arguing whether that condemnation is right or wrong in and of itself, only that the US has a very bad credibility issue when making such condemnations due to recent history. I don't understand why the US's credibility is at all relevant to the thread.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Can journalists use drones to collect footage in these contested areas? It can't be that expensive to get a video camera aloft and give it some GPS coordinates these days. I don't know about you, but if I were a fighter in a combat zone and saw a drone that I knew didn't belong to my side, I'd loving shoot it.
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enraged_camel posted:If you really think that we invaded Iraq because it posed an actual threat to the US, I must conclude that you live in some sort of bizarro reality and are hopelessly naive. Is he saying the US invaded because Iraq WAS a threat, or because it PERCEIVED Iraq as a threat? His post read as more the latter to me, with all those evidence points being presented as things that the government saw as supporting their conclusion, not as things that lead Volkerball to the same conclusion. This is a serious question; I might have missed a sentence or two.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Eh they are the same thing really. You can't honestly say that Iraq was a credible threat in a perceived or actual sense. I mean Iraq's army already was shown to not really be able to do much against the US and WMDs really only have a limited uses and obvious range issues. The meat though is that Iraq is just to far away to be anything of a threat to the US proper. They're not the same because only one really supports Volkerball being some kind of neocon, which seems like a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. The other is a statement of the Bush administration's perceptions, not of actual reality. Cerebral Bore posted:... If I were worth a drat this is where I'd dig up that quote about how it's a cornerstone of fascism to claim your enemies are terrible threats at your gates while simultaneously and paradoxically declaring them pathetic sub-people who could be easily crushed by our might. VVV I had indeed forgotten about that. God what a trainwreck.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Not everything is about anime. Just everything in this thread.
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Fanatic posted:I would keep fighting to the bitter end and leave a round in the chamber for myself if it came to it. Better than being tortured, dehuminised and executed imo. I just want to point that everyone says this. Doing it is a different matter.
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ChairMaster posted:It's literally only the videos they release. I've been consistently surprised that people everywhere, even on the internet where you'd expect people to be a bit less naive than that, still managed to be shocked and angry at these things that have been happening constantly in the Middle East for years just because it's shot in HD this time. It's almost like humans aren't innately rational and seeing a thing has a different psychological impact from reading about the thing! I honestly don't understand why you're surprised.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, if anything D&D and SA in general has moved much further to the right over time. The aftermath of LF has mostly faded and the forums more or less returned to the way they were during the mid-00s. Am I the only one who remembers all the Paulies and self-identified Republicans from around that time? Pure strain gold and all that?
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VitalSigns posted:If we're solving everything by getting in our time machines, why are we only going back to 2012? Are we short on time-machine fuel? Why aren't we going back to 2003 and stopping the invasion of Iraq in the first place, or at least telling the neocons how to do it right? Actually, why aren't we just going to 1918 and knocking heads together over Sykes-Picot? Go back to the start and pour bleach in the primordial ooze.
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Miltank posted:In what ways if any is ISIS worse than Saddam? Did Saddam try to wipe out any ethnic groups beside the Kurds?
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Cat Mattress posted:MEC? Haha, I'd missed that. Tomahawks are indeed nuclear capable, but...uh... they're not the only alternative to anti ship and training/dummy warheads.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Right those villagers deserve to die. One crime deserves another. He didn't say it was right, he said it was a natural, human reaction that shouldn't surprise anyone. Edit: I think the point is that you have to take this in context. Killing in revenge, while obviously wrong, is different from killing because someone is the wrong religion, in the same way that premeditated murder is different from a "crime of passion." Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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SedanChair posted:Which is the same thing the daesh recruiter interviewed by der Spiegel says. I never said it was an insightful post, I'm just tired of dumb "so you're saying ethnic cleansing is OK?!" posts. No, no one is saying that. Whatever dumb or pointless posts they make no one is saying that poo poo is good, so it'd be great if folks wouldn't start slap fights.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I am sad that he and his family wont be brutally killed. he and his family are monsters who have brought about the deaths of thousands of people. A dark part of me wants ISIS to catch the fucker and butcher him on camera. Yeah i sound like an edgy rear end in a top hat about this. But i am loving sick of monster getting away with killing tons of people because we need to have "stability" what "stability"? syria as a country barely loving exists anymore its a quagmire of death now. I kinda want him to die in some kind of bizarre sex accident, like getting crushed by an amorous manatee while wearing women's underwear and a clown nose. But standing trial for war crimes would be even better.
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orange sky posted:I just wanna say something that's bothering me, why we can't get a thread dedicated to something like the biggest world event in the last year because someone talked about religion is beyond me. Isn't this supposed to be a forum? As far as I know no mod or admin forbade a separate thread, it's just no one created one? Edit: wait, gently caress, just saw it.
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Bait and Swatch posted:Having seen his posts in the RWM thread, I am dubious that MIGF would consider himself a Democrat. Or maybe he's just good at playing devil's advocate / trolling goons. I for one prefer ISIL to ISIS because I don't like profaning a perfectly respectable goddess.
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:What are some of the most ridiculous (credible) Gaddafi stories out there? I know of the translator fainting at the UN, the throwing of papers at the UN, and the Condie scrapbook, but I can't remember any more and I know there were a few. Anybody help? You seem to have forgotten the Condi song and music video, "Black Rose in the White House."
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So is this just CAS--meaning sorties of other sorts will continue? I'm having a hard time imagining a better use for the F-22 than this, but I don't see CAS singled out in the article.
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Kaal posted:F-22s have no use here since there's no air-to-air combat to be had. I thought they could do strikes. Does anyone else smell burned toast?
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Kopijeger posted:Are there any examples of authoritarian states that have relied on a professional military? In mordern times, it seems like all-volunteer professional militaries are limited to ostensibly liberal democratic societies like the US, UK, France and other such states. Are there any examples to the contrary? I assume you mean aside from the Soviets?
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Kopijeger posted:When did the Soviets have a professional military? Man, nothing like misreading a post to say the exact opposite of what it actually says. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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fade5 posted:Interesting article on the SDF, released now that Votel's visit is over: quote:U.S. advisers say the Kurdish women are so tough they sometimes go into battle with suicide belts so they won’t be captured by Islamic State fighters who would turn them into sex slaves. This sounds like a Command & Conquer unit. Hard loving core.
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fade5 posted:... Absolutely, but this is a bit more
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Darkman Fanpage posted:The Soviet Union had so many captured STuGs that they gave some to Syria in the 1950s. Also some panzer IVs. A lot of them for destroyed by Israel.
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Huggybear posted:Is there a socio-cultural rationale for hanging as opposed to a bullet? It is macabre to consider this distinction but pretty much every modern tyranny that has resorted to mass killing/genocide used for most accountable murders some variation of a bullet to the brain (although those lazy Nazis would sometimes pile people into mass graves alive and hose them with submachine gun fire, when they weren't flinging infants into the air to shoot them for sport) Einsatz typically had a strict one bullet per person rule for trench full of people operations. For cost reasons. If the guy with the skull hat misses you or only wounds you, oh well, you get buried alive. There are cases of people clawing their way out of the mass grave only to find the Nazis hadn't left yet. Results predictable.
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Randarkman posted:You save the bullet. I've read that too, though Einsatz and camp guards both had huge rates of desertion, alcoholism, and suicide. I know Himmler gave a speech at one of the camps about how he knew how the guards were suffering, commending their sacrifice, and how they only felt guilty because they were proper Germans and conscience-havers, unlike the people they killed. I wonder what Syrian dungeon guard training is like. And the drop out rate. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Duckbag posted:... ideology is a form of false consciousness and blinds the masses to the truth of class struggle... vvv Fair enough. That statement just made me giggle. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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