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Wrennic_26
Jul 9, 2009

Wrennic_26 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 4, 2013

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Wrennic_26
Jul 9, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

Could I use this on my blog? People love this sort of stuff.

Absolutely. Sorry for sidebar to Egyptian government swapping!

Wrennic_26
Jul 9, 2009
It is far more pleasant to come into this thread for recent content and updates regarding changes in the area than to come in and see pages of argument over definitions or the writer's opinions, with lots of nasty thrown in, usually nasty stuck at the end of a rewording of the last post.

Could I invite the thread's readers to talk some about the perception battles in the Iraqi civil war? There has been a lot of posting earlier on about how polished and effective the Islamic State videography and social media propaganda is for example -- that sort of thing may be one of the foundations of their recent success (ease of recruiting, complication of international attempts to understand conditions on the ground).

Here's another example from today -- Kurdish media apparatus trying to reframe the capture of the oil fields near Kirkuk.

http://rudaw.net/mobile/english/kurdistan/110720141

Previous social uprisings have had their military or political actions supported by framing of the events on the ground (successful agitprop) where slower, less agile or less motivated "great" powers are incapable of matching the messaging. "Great" and local powers both have a sense of the danger of effective messaging, as is seen in lobbying fights in D.C. or local strongmen suppressing the media, but for some reason there is a lot of flailing and an inability to respond once the regional uprising's message gets beyond a certain point.

The Islamic State is a problem that way in my opinion because there is so much brutal evil in their actions -- yep will take the position that they are an evil to be opposed -- but there is a lot of justifiable resentment of exploitation and external interference in their message.

How can more moderate movements trying to resist exploitation get recruits and get their message out without resorting to brutality and horror as a carrier?

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