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thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Lascivious Sloth posted:

Gaddafi's son is named Hanibal :wtc:

It's like he's actively trying to create an evil villain image for himself.

Yeesh. The guy even looks like an amalgamation of different criminal scum. The amount of things he got away with thanks to diplomatic immunity is a bit of a head turner.

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thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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The-Mole posted:

:words:
or we can stop making GBS threads up this thread with your sweeping generalized opinion of millions of people and concentrate on what's actually going on in the middle east.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Brown Moses posted:

State TV has "Tunisians" saying they've been paid to cause trouble, and other people claiming they were given powerful drugs that made them violent.

Those two looked like they had the ever living poo poo beaten out of them before being forced to go on air and 'confess'.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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tere posted:

I love how the markets all go. Hey there is unrest in the mid-east. Time to jack up the price of oil!!!

As mentioned, expected since some of these countries like Libya are big oil exporters. It's things like this that might make events spiral into more protests once the increased oil cost seeps into added transportation costs for goods. Food supply and cost has been one of the major problems in many of these protested regions it seems, and increased food prices can't help anything.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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I used to wonder what I should put for my avatar to represent madness, but there is only one option now. There can not be any level of insanity further than Muammar Gaddafi after that speech.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Monday Averted posted:

Gaddafi doing the horny parrot sway would be a hell of an avatar, actually.

If someone's bored enough to make me one, it will be done. I'm thinking of using "And for the next 2 hours, Gaddafi will read to you a short haiku he just made about rats and hallucinogens"

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Jut posted:

Don't forget that there can be a lot of hyperbole and exaggeration over things like this. I'm not denying that he's sent planes to bomb people, or that mercs have been shooting, but I'm not convinced that the image painted by the protesters is entirely accurate. Any figures would just be guesswork at this point in time, and only untill the smoke has cleared could we get an accurate count.

I'm betting an accurate count won't happen for awhile. Just think of the number of bodies the Mad Gad's stolen and either hidden in mass graves, coolers, etc.

Even once he's gone Libya's probably going to still be in chaos for some regions till they clear out the insane number of mercs that seem to keep being imported.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Hipster_Doofus posted:

:lol:

Umm, who's driving?

You see, the photographer was on those drugs Mad Ghad is talking about and they were hallucinating that that little pink fluff ball on the wheel was his chauffeur. After that, an American recruited him into Al-Qaeada where he took orders from Israel. It all makes perfect sense I tell you!

edit: Is that pink thing on the wheel a troll doll?

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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quote:

• Nato defence ministers are also meeting in Brussels to discuss their response to events in Libya, including the possibility of a no-fly zone. But Nato's secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the alliance had no intervention of intervening and would only do so if the security council called for it. However, he did indicate its stance could change "if the regime continue to attack their own people". A Nato source said not only would there be no decision on a no-fly zone by the notoriously slow-moving organisation, but it was unlikely there would be a joint communique either. Gaddafi, in spite of outrageous acts against his own people, had not done enough to trigger intervention under international law, the source admitted.

I'm curious at what point on paper it reaches a severe enough point that intervention is possible. I know civil war issues can be messy to wade into but what are the actual laws in the matter? You can bomb your people but not carpet bomb them? If he went on state television tomorrow with Joker face paint on singing "You can't spell slaughter without laughter!" while personally shooting people, would he just get a sternly worded letter from the UN?

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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quote:

A doctor in Misrata said the tanks fled after the air strikes began around midnight. He said the air strikes struck the aviation academy and a vacant lot outside the central hospital, which was under maintenance.

Is the 'fist crushing a plane' aviation academy in Tripoli or Misrata? Love to see an ironic picture of the fist's rubble if it got hit by an airstrike.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/04/2011430224755721620.html

quote:

"This was a direct operation to assassinate the leader of this country. This is not permitted by international law. It is not permitted by any moral code or principle.

"What we have now is the law of the jungle," Ibrahim told a news conference.

"We think now it is clear to everyone that what is happening in Libya has nothing to do with the protection of civilians."

Ibrahim would not give the names of the three children, who he claimed were killed, except to say they were nieces and nephews of Saif al-Arab and that they were younger than 12. He said they are not releasing the names yet to protect the privacy of the family.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's fabricated or just done by Mad Gad for reasons others have talked about. Gotta love how many of the Libyan state news stories we get reek of pot/kettle moments. With the massive amount of outright lies and misinformation they've been saying, I don't see how anyone could trust or believe anything they post as news. For these same reasons I put major doubt on a ceasefire ever being reached, especially with the amount of times Gad's falsely played that card. Him fleeing or dying seem like the only 2 ways this'll end. I'd laugh my rear end off hearing the speeches he'd give at his trial (picture the look on his face when he's interrupted in the middle of one his hour long tales by the judge and told to get to the loving point), but I can't picture him surrendering with that ego.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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pylb posted:

Here's a photo of one of the mines:
http://i.imgur.com/syPKF.jpg

Friday morning a french frigate guided by a recon plane intercepted some boats going towards Misrata at high speeds. When they didn't stop, it fired warning shots; a number of the boats turned around while another one sunk. On closer inspection they found this mine, then two others.

(I know nothing of naval warfare - did the french "miss" one of the warning shots and sink that boat ? And how hard is it to catch a drifting mine once it's been localized ?)

There was mention earlier in one of the news feeds that they had purposely sank 3 of the inflatable rafts with mines in them as a deployment method. I'm betting the frigate interrupted Gad's troops just as they were starting n' ran them off. And floating mines aren't easy to find from what I understand. The current is probably tossing them around haphazardly, making retrieval difficult and it's hard to spot something the size of a basketball in a large body of water.

thiswayliesmadness fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 2, 2011

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Has there been any more word on the ICC finishing their warrant for Ghadaffi? It seems for the last couple weeks, they keep saying they're just working out the final bits and it'll be effective any day now.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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How many times have we heard reports of US troops in Iraq/Afghanistan/etc. going too far with violence, raping civilians (or other military person's), or just otherwise breaking the Geneva Conventions? If a well funded military nation can't stop it's troops from doing what they shouldn't, I'm amazed the TNC has done as well as it has for keeping people under control. As others have mentioned, it's when this becomes a tactic instead of petty revenge that it becomes a major issue. Not that it isn't an issue in any case these things happen, but an organized military being given viagra and told to go on a raping spree is a different story from Hillbilly Amir and his buddies taking advantage of the chaos to do what they want. But to use your own tactic Jut, how do we know all these stories about rebels raping/stealing/etc. are actually true?

If Brown Moses is a CIA mouthpiece, Jut is being paid by CQ n' crew.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Jut posted:

Speaking of the UK, the BBC are reporting violence in Birmingham...no explanation why though.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-14452468

also


Any chance this could lead into something bigger? I myself left the UK due to lack of a future there...would love to see things change.

Edit: hilarious Irish guy on the BBC live feed right now.

I take it you haven't seen this thread?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3429742&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Fiskenbob posted:

Yeah, it's pretty cool. There's a short article about it on Wired. Apparently it was smuggled into the country on a small boat via Malta. Some spy poo poo right there.

At this point I don't think I'd be surprised to see the rebels construct a humanoid warmachine from a few wrecked cars and some array of pulleys.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Zappatista posted:

What he doesn't know is that Moammar Ghadaffi became who he is by putting on that hat and chain. That man is now rapidly aging and compulsively searching for a pair of large dark sunglasses without knowing why.

Don't you see? The hat -is- Moammar Ghadaffi! It will slowly send it's tendrils into it's new host, and before we know it he shall rise again even crazier!

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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ecureuilmatrix posted:

One for the "Crazy Frenchmen" file:
Almost unbelievable but true: a French Tiger helicopter lands on a Libyan beach to pick up a Free Libya flag

I wonder at what rate Kaddafi is burning through his purse, there in the desert.

I was wondering where they put the shield generators! Amazing what the rebels have captured...

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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etalian posted:

He's the Dr. Nick of combat medics.

Is it wrong that I want to try trolling him as a victim of his 'medical expertise'?

But then again, I'm sure there's more than one person he's treated with a horrible infection/amount of the wrong type of blood transfused/ roll of film left inside them that actually deserves to chew him out.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Brown Moses posted:

Jonny Hallam of the BBC tweeted some alarming reports


No idea how reliable New Quryna is as a source, no idea where those biological warheads would have come from either, I've never seen anything to suggest Libya has those sorts of weapons.

Considering there's another flotilla attempting to deliver supplies to Palestinians en route at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just fear mongering to justify what's likely to be another heavy handed response.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Brown Moses posted:

I'm really hoping I can get an interview with one of the members of the Libyan Women's Platform for Peace next.

Here's another FSA tank in Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy-fgMbdK28

I love how the guy pops out of the tank top as soon as the gunfire starts. It's hard to tell if they're piling up garbage in the streets for some kind of roadblock, or if it's just being piled away from homes. Just looking at the conditions of the buildings and such though, it probably won't be long till some Syrian cities end up looking like Sirte does now.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Hamelekim posted:

I think everyone should read this leaked report by the Gulf Cooperation Council on what is really going on in Syria. It is foreign nationals who are killing civilians attempting to justify war against Assad. The guy is not nice, but he is not doing all the things that he is accused of. Stop buying into the propaganda.

http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/Report_of_Arab_League_Observer_Mission.pdf

I guess we were due for another "I know you guys have been following all this stuff since it started, but I just read this article that has the real truth in it!" :smug: post...

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Hamelekim posted:

Look at the American and British overthrow of the Iranian government in the 50's to install the shah. They turned the people against the leadership through covert violent actions. So it is possible to do this.

However, I would agree with you that there is most likely a great deal of hatred of Assad among the general population. But they wouldn't normally express such discontent publicly without some feeling that they could actually overthrow him. That sort of feeling is likely coming from the militants, and maybe even from western sources encouraging people to rise up.

What I wrote is in no way tinfoil hat crazy. It is logical thinking, and it is backed up by what General Wesley Clark said previously, both in his book, as well as in public speeches. That does not mean there is no discontent, but it is being fomented by the West in order to overthrow these governments without having to fully utilize Western military might.

So people don't express that they are mad unless they think they can get results? And just to be clear, "the west" is solely responsible for Arab Spring movements in: Tunisa, Algeria, Lebanon, Jordan, Mauritania, Sudan, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq, Bahrain, Libya, Kuwait, Morocco AND Syria?

And the Occupy movement is funded entirely by the Chinese...

Yes, there have been greedy motivations for actions in the middle east, but that doesn't mean everything that happens there is a plot directly controlled by foreign powers.

thiswayliesmadness fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Feb 6, 2012

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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I'm just waiting for Hamelekim to post a Lizzie Phelan link at this point.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Hamelekim posted:

even more conspiracy stuff

Might I suggest at this point, you just create your own topic to discuss your... theories in instead of making GBS threads up this one?

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Xandu posted:

http://bambuser.com/v/2353349

Shells keep landing closer and closer to this camera.

Every time a shell goes off you see all the birds in the area take flight. You can tell that last one was -really- close when there's that many flying right in front of the camera after it hit.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Xandu posted:

Yeah I think you're right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbQwD8zm18

This dude is such a badass.

Considering all the other videos with children in it we've seen lately, I had a massive lump in my throat watching that kid run in a street while everyone else is hiding.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Whatever happened to those people/blogs/etc. that were denying Libya's uprising was even happening (or was insignificant)? Are they still pretending everything was done on a sound stage and Ghaddafi's alive and well?

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thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

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Brown Moses posted:

The Syrian government is it's usual dickish self.


I wonder if this will be another thing like the "Ghaddafi magical mystery tour" where they'll only be allowed to go to the government's staged presentation areas. Just really hoping it won't be another government escort that mysteriously retreats from their car right before a mortar attack by 'terrorists' similar to the incident that killed those reporters. But Assad wouldn't be stupid enough to take out UN observers for a chance at gaining support I'd hope.

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