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El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



Finlander posted:

Either Egyptian lawyers are just generally terrible or this is some plot to undermine the prosecution.

Well, in the national exam that determines where you will go to university and what it is you will study, one of the lowest scoring (if my memory serves me correctly, and it may be the lowest passing score) passing results leads you to studying law.

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El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



Young Freud posted:

Okay, so I gotta ask, what's the highest scoring ones. Give something like a top five.

I just want to see how other countries treat law and business admin degrees.

I myself am an Egyptian-American, born and raised here in America but with my entire family being entirely Egyptian, so while I haven't experienced the actual educational system there I'll do my best to go off memory as to what my parents have told me. Any better placed goons feel free to correct me.

In Egypt's equivalent to High School, you are forced to make a decision as to which path of study you will take, a liberal arts/humanities path or a mathematics/science one. In your final year when applying to universities, the score you get on the nationwide exam determines what you will study and where you will be studying it. Now, as far as I know it goes:

Highest Scores in Maths/Science Exam lead you to - Medical school, Dentistry, Engineering
Highest in Humanities- Political Science, Mass Communication, etc

However, if you are a monied enough family, currently the most prestigious private university in Egypt is the American University in Cairo. That's where the business administration degrees and the like come in and they are also considered quite prestigious and worthy of the best jobs out there.

As a small aside, there's a bit of a quirk when it comes to the law degree. While it does take the lowest of the humanities exam score, often someone from a well-connected family and a high exam score may opt to study law because if you do have those connections and you study it, it does manage to open up some very good doors for your career. Some of the highest positions, as far as I'm aware, in fact.

El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



Miguel Angel Face posted:

And all of the police commanders have been acquitted.

Doesn't seem like a strong result for the new judiciary.

And his sons were acquitted. Mubarak was charged with being an accessory to murder. That doesn't hold up as proper proof of the conviction in either Egyptian or International courts. Basically nothing significant happened today. The whole case is completely vulnerable to being picked apart upon appeal. Especially so if Shafik, Mubarak's last Prime Minister, wins the election.

El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



Ham posted:

Monopolization of legislative and executive power, marginalization of most political groups birthed out of the revolution, use of an unrepresentative upper house of parliament (previously only served an advisory function) majority controlled by the MB to set an MB-tailored constitution, extreme incompetence in dealing with political and social issues, extreme incompetence in dealing with economic issues, massive incessant power outages all over Egypt, extreme fuel shortage over the two weeks prior to the start of the protests, bungling the situation with Ethiopia's Nile River dam and embarrassing the country/administration to no end.

Yep. I wish there was a way to copy/paste in real life conversation because every time my friends ask me I'd like to just say this.

Got a ton of family taking part in the protests. Fingers crossed things don't turn too bloody but I'm not particularly optimistic.

El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



The Guardian is reporting that the New York Times is reporting (heh) that a travel ban has been placed on "President Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide, and his deputy Khairat el-Shater".

Interesting.

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El Ste
Aug 22, 2010



ufarn posted:

When is the military's presser due? I thought it was now.

Egypt time! Bound to run late.

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