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Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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lol rrail don't take the moral high ground over gadaffi

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Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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if he had been taken alive it would have been way better so that he could have embarrassed the gently caress out of america wrt oil deals and illegal cia poo poo but i'm pretty sure nato would not have allowed that to happen (it's good to point out that he knew a shitload about illegal CIA activities)

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Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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the new government is terrible, but the rebels have a shitton of weapons and experience so hopefully when they realize they're being hosed by NATO they'll rise up

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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Zedsdeadbaby posted:

You all celebrate now, but all I'm seeing right now is Iraq 2.0. Several rival factions, a hotbed of religious factions and potentially hundreds of thousands of armaments. It cannot and will not end well.

quote:

statement by Mustafa Abdel Jalil, chairman of the Libyan NTC:

"The Libyan people - said the NTC chairman - know perfectly that the period of Italian colonialism went together with an era of great infrastructure building and development". And indeed "everyone knows the great buildings in Tripoli, Benghazi and other towns are Italian buildings. We think the law went its natural way in that period, fair causes, fair trials. And there was agricultural development". On the other hand, the Gaddafi period "was the exact opposite - Jalil stated calmly but firmly - all the values and principles were demolished, brought upside down. The Libyan resources were never used for the Libyan people. All the errors notwithstanding, colonialism can never be compared to Gaddafi".

also this lol

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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ThePutty posted:

I really don't have a problem with any dictator being executed after they've ordered the deaths of hundreds to thousands of people, not to mention their oppression of the people they dictate over. Assad and Saleh have their execution coming.

Assad is protected by Russia and NATO would never go after them in a million years no matter how hard the Saudis or Qataris want them destroyed

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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thegoonofaudio posted:

Just curious I'm probably very ignorant on this matter but after the horrible horrible stuff of the 80's and his terrorism (he should've been toppled then), after he cooled down, wasn't Gaddafi a socialist who ensured a big safety net?


So really I'm just curious that if this was all true how are liberals in favor of a secular socialist guy getting overthrown, probably to be replaced by international corporate capitalism (the very thing OWS are railing against) and Islamic radicalism?

Once again I'm probably completely wrong on all of this and haven't followed it much, but just throwing out something I've been wondering about.

gadaffi made concessions to imperialists, but what probably got him overthrown was reneging on neoliberal reforms

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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ThePutty posted:

Oh dear, it looks like the commentors that attacked Brown Moses have followed him here.

to celebrate gaddafis death demands you remove the event from its entire context. i.e., bin laden was a bad dude, but his death was at best a bittersweet moment because it came as a result of a needlessly bloody and destructive war campaign that obliterated millions of lives. the nato campaign for north africa is a force for evil and that it accidentally results in some level of justice doesnt deserve celebration

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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that's the most bullshit i've ever heard lmao

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Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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Ghetto Prince posted:

Wow, just this morning I was thinking how lucky he was that the misrata brigade killed him quickly... On the other hand , this is the guy who ordered his militias to rob , rape and attack at random, then ordered that rape victims be prosecuted if they dared to complain about it, so im sure this is just karma.

Is your source that article that said he gave all his guys viagra? lol

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/111024/gaddafi-sodomized-video-gaddafi-sodomy

Pueidist fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 24, 2011

Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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FlamingLiberal posted:

I forget, did Caro disappear into Syria or something?

He's most likely been executed by the rebels/govt which is why no ones seen him.

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Pueidist
Jan 18, 2004

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We don't even know who gave Brownmoses that video besides "some activist"?

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