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I just read the part in book 20 where the Ringle runs aground and that affected me more than many deaths of people in the series did!
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tylertfb posted:I just read the part in book 20 where the Ringle runs aground and that affected me more than many deaths of people in the series did! Before this latest reread I read David Grann''s non fiction The Wager and it strongly reminded me of that
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Oct 21, 2024 16:47
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I sent you my Hermaphroditic Crab please respond.
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Oct 24, 2024 15:23
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Someone in California must have read Post Captain recently.
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Nov 15, 2024 12:16
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I don't remember any insurance fraud in Post Captain Lol
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Nov 15, 2024 13:09
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quote:Four Los Angeles area residents were arrested today after a Department of Insurance investigation found the suspects allegedly committed insurance fraud by claiming a bear had caused damage to their vehicles, but it was actually a person in a bear costume 
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Nov 15, 2024 15:06
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What ho, the bear!
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tylertfb posted:I just read the part in book 20 where the Ringle runs aground and that affected me more than many deaths of people in the series did! Speaking of - am I correct in my recollection that Bonden and Diana + co's deaths in the penultimate book is the first time a character dies who has been established in previous books, barring the higher-up admiral whose name I've forgotten and who was in any case a nemesis who is not intended to be mourned? There are many affective deaths through the series, but from memory virtually all of them are characters introduced in the same book in which they die, rather than being part of the background of the larger series. Also, looking back at my reviews - I always thought it poetical that Bonden might be the very last British serviceman to die in the Napoleonic wars.
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Nov 16, 2024 07:26
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To enemy action that is. No doubt the strangulated hernias never surrendered.
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freebooter posted:Speaking of - am I correct in my recollection that Bonden and Diana + co's deaths in the penultimate book is the first time a character dies who has been established in previous books, barring the higher-up admiral whose name I've forgotten and who was in any case a nemesis who is not intended to be mourned? There are many affective deaths through the series, but from memory virtually all of them are characters introduced in the same book in which they die, rather than being part of the background of the larger series. You're thinking of Admiral Harte, and it's funny because he finally does something selfless and sympathetic (giving Jack a pile of his own money to liberate Christian slaves) so you know he's going to die in about 10 pages. O'Brian has a lot of fun playing up his control of the story through blatant, comic foreshadowing — on my current re-read, I just got to the bit in The Thirteen-Gun Salute where a Lt. Elliott (repeatedly characterised as a poor seaman) is on watch when the Diane runs aground on a reef. Then everything in the ship is offloaded onto the shore of a desert island, Elliott is put in command of a small boat to carry an ambitious, nasty official a short distance ahead to Batavia. And if that weren't enough to seal the official's fate, before the boat leaves, Stephen improbably smashes all the barometers when he loses his balance trying to catch a spider in a calm sea, and the nasty official assures Jack the weather is guaranteed to be mild for several days. But your recollection is wrong — other antagonists die too after being introduced in previous books, such as Canning, Ledward, and Wray. There are also ships/captains that beat or escape Jack in previous novels only to be encountered again in later ones, like the Spartan. Cassian of Imola fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Nov 17, 2024 |
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Nov 17, 2024 13:24
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Cassian of Imola posted:You're thinking of Admiral Harte, and it's funny because he finally does something selfless and sympathetic (giving Jack a pile of his own money to liberate Christian slaves) so you know he's going to die in about 10 pages. O'Brian has a lot of fun playing up his control of the story through blatant, comic foreshadowing — on my current re-read, I just got to the bit in The Thirteen-Gun Salute where a Lt. Elliott (repeatedly characterised as a poor seaman) is on watch when the Diane runs aground on a reef. Then everything in the ship is offloaded onto the shore of a desert island, Elliott is put in command of a small boat to carry an ambitious, nasty official a short distance ahead to Batavia. And if that weren't enough to seal the official's fate, before the boat leaves, Stephen improbably smashes all the barometers when he loses his balance trying to catch a spider in a calm sea, and the nasty official assures Jack the weather is guaranteed to be mild for several days. Plus the book where Stephen dies, and is then replaced by his son.
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Cassian of Imola posted:You're thinking of Admiral Harte, and it's funny because he finally does something selfless and sympathetic (giving Jack a pile of his own money to liberate Christian slaves) so you know he's going to die in about 10 pages. O'Brian has a lot of fun playing up his control of the story through blatant, comic foreshadowing — on my current re-read, I just got to the bit in The Thirteen-Gun Salute where a Lt. Elliott (repeatedly characterised as a poor seaman) is on watch when the Diane runs aground on a reef. Then everything in the ship is offloaded onto the shore of a desert island, Elliott is put in command of a small boat to carry an ambitious, nasty official a short distance ahead to Batavia. And if that weren't enough to seal the official's fate, before the boat leaves, Stephen improbably smashes all the barometers when he loses his balance trying to catch a spider in a calm sea, and the nasty official assures Jack the weather is guaranteed to be mild for several days. I think the saddest death in the whole series is the seaman or officer who rows Stephen out to some mid-Atlantic rock for naturalist purposes, talking about how heartbroken he is that his wife has left him but that he's still hoping to reconcile and Stephen says maybe there'll be mail from her waiting for him in Rio, and they both get caught in a storm and he drowns, and like 100 pages later in the middle of a completely different conversation Stephen asks if there was any mail for him in Rio and Jack says "Hmmm? No, I don't think so" and the conversation immediately moves on. Brutal. (Though mind you I think I was going through a break-up at the time.)
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Killed because of Stephen's gifts. The guilt my boy must feel
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Nov 28, 2024 12:00
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Diana Villiers getting killed "off screen" was some bullshit. Dying in a high speed carriage ride was in character but it should have been a carriage ride that advanced the plot in a cool way, maybe trading lives with a french spy or something to protect Maturin or maybe some of the kids. It's too realistic and I can't believe most people are reading this series for the grim reality of random chance.
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ReelBigLizard posted:Diana Villiers getting killed "off screen" was some bullshit. Dying in a high speed carriage ride was in character but it should have been a carriage ride that advanced the plot in a cool way, maybe trading lives with a french spy or something to protect Maturin or maybe some of the kids. O'Brian was always willing to have vital plot elements occur offstage with no input from the main characters  It's frustrating for the reader who expects the story to follow traditional patterns of "the important characters do things" but it was his style.
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Nov 28, 2024 16:16
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I like it. Horrible things just happen. There's no weaving it all together into the narrative. It's just ike, you're sailing along and your alcoholic master murders the flute playing bugger outta nowhere.
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ReelBigLizard posted:Diana Villiers getting killed "off screen" was some bullshit. Dying in a high speed carriage ride was in character but it should have been a carriage ride that advanced the plot in a cool way, maybe trading lives with a french spy or something to protect Maturin or maybe some of the kids. I assumed it was just a reflection about how O’Brian felt when his wife died. People don’t usually die for a reason in real life.
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