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somethingwicked posted:Imperative Reaction is playing with Assemblage in NYC this Friday, but I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it up there. I've only seen a short set when they played at the Triton Festival a couple years ago. I used to find them rather monotonous (and still do to a small extent), but they're one of the more enjoyable bands out there for me. If I can't make it i'll just see A23 at a closer show on Sunday, because Tom Shear is the loving man. I know quite a few people on here were complaining about Compass, etc - but he has yet to dissapoint () me. Imperative Reaction puts in a lot of effort. I saw them at a dingy club in San Antonio (with a small crowd) on a weekday night a little ways back, and they overplayed the industrial crotch-rock to its fullest. That was nice I guess, and they seem like great guys. But they were still doing a massive and probably exhausting tour with 30+ dates that ... had them playing in a dingy club in San Antonio on a weekday night. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 23, 2012 |
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het posted:It's pretty good but the brosteppy bits are kind of grating a little too much for me at the moment. I could probably get used to it. Furret Basket posted:EEEEERRRR ENOUGH OF THAT BECAUSE PROMETHEUS loving BURNING JUST RELEASE THEIR NEW ALBUM
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 09:28 |
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teethgrinder posted:Storming The Base has a pretty great newsletter for what it's worth and covers a lot more breadth. http://www.stormingthebase.com/ Furret Basket posted:Tympanic is pretty much a whos-who of fantastic artists. They're the only labels whose newsletter I've signed up for. That's actually quite worth doing actually because otherwise it just falls under the radar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0Xh4VY7xE Also, someone disapproves of Airmech:
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2012 07:00 |
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Icon of Coil sucks too. "If I'm not dead enough for life, am I alive enough for death?" Seriously? Danger - Octopus! posted:Nice article. Also, I've read some reporting on music-oriented subcultures/lifestyles that found that the goth-industrial scene does skew older. I think the best explanation given was that people tend to age into it rather than age out of it. It doesn't go out of its way to identify with youth, and the music doesn't tend to so much resist the "system" as reflect it at its worst. While there are political themes, they're more ambiguous, allusive and ambivalent. Whereas an anti-fascist punk band would hit you over the head with a sledgehammer about why fascism sucks, an industrial group like Laibach would dress up in fascist uniforms in a ridiculous satire and over-identify with the target in order to provoke the audience. Or it'd be a kind of anguished reflection at the horror of fascism. I don't know how exactly this translates into age, but the more ambiguous politics and reliance on aesthetics in industrial music to make a point could keep people involved for longer. A punk kid would just incorporate the "gently caress fascism" into his ordinary politics as he aged while dropping the outwardly rebellious image. But a gothic-industrial fan would incorporate elements of the style into their everyday image while toning down the more radical expressions of it, as the style is more important to him/her in defining what the message is than the punk kid, if that makes sense? It's harder to incorporate the ambiguity of industrial music into other aspects of your life like you would punk. You've gotta wear the tactical pants.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2012 08:14 |
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Halloween Jack posted:As much as I'd like to blame misogyny in industrial music on those loving jocks invading it, I think a more likely theory is that the industrial scene has always carried an uneasy balance between coopting violent, militaristic imagery as a protest and embracing it for the power fantasy it provides. The fascism is coming from inside the scene!
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2012 17:21 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I should have included this in my last post, but I wanted to specifically say that "Weirdos, Outcasts, Geeks, Dreamers and Rebels" often harbor disturbing power fantasies and seek empowerment from fascist, misogynist conventions. This is a different thing from "support" though. Maybe "defend the artistic value of" or something like that. I don't particularly like ecclesiastical authority or medieval feudalism as systems of government either but I can get awed by some cathedrals. Death in June have put Ustasha symbols on their albums, if I'm remembering correctly, or some other Croatian fascist symbolism, and plenty of Strasserist stuff. But they seem to get more of a pass because Douglas P can write interesting songs. They make good art. Nachtmahr doesn't because their music sucks. George Orwell wrote (I've included a link) that "the most one can ask of [a writer] is that he shall genuinely believe in what he is saying, and that it shall not be something blazingly silly." Fascism is evil and wicked but it's not crazy, y'know? You can get why someone would be into it, or you can try and understand what about it appeals to people, in order to to better understand what it is and why it's as dangerous as it is. But guys like Boyd Rice and Thomas Rainer front this image like they're just kidding and what they're saying isn't what they really believe. So why should I listen to what they're saying? It's like: Are you loving kidding me? At least stand by your own art you worthless poo poo. And if he did, if he said "I enjoy beating women" and really meant it instead of backtracking by saying it's ironic, no one would listen to him because they'd realize who they were really listening to. http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/swift/english/e_swift (A bit long so skip to the last graf.) Sorta related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BZl8ScVYvA Twiin posted:I just put my track up on SoundCloud, FWIW. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Dec 4, 2012 |
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Hmm. This reflects my confused feelings about new Skinny Puppy: Also check this out: http://basicunitproductions.bandcamp.com/album/tension-strategies
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 22:55 |
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Like I said, I have mixed feelings. The thing that really turned me off from being a fan to just trying to keep an open mind about them is... how do I say this? They sound way too up their own rear end. And like, weird references to chemtrails, "cryptic lies" and the dangers of usury. Oookay. And by this I mean the last two albums. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Feb 15, 2013 |
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This isn't a recommendation, but in addition to the meteor in Russia, the new Blutengel album also landed today. So... prepare to enter the wild, dark and sexy world of Blutengel! I love it without shame. Or... is it because of shame that I love Blutengel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oEXQyzyGzI leahlionheart posted:And finally, what's the consensus on neofolk/martial industrial like Feindflug, Death in June, Rome, etc.? (Boyd Rice is a sack of untalented poo poo with serious "I hate my parents" issues). What other groups should I check out?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 23:40 |
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Entropist posted:Heh, that Blutengel track sounds a lot more poppy than how I remember it! What happened? BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 16, 2013 |
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Baby Sathanas posted:Went out in Manchester gay village tonight, stood outside in the smoking area of a club and overhear a guy say he's a sound engineer. In my drunken stooper I start all "oh yeah I do industrial music etc etc" he goes "have you heard of Modulate?" I start gushing about how much I looove Modulate. "I'm the laptop guy in Modulate." Weirdest loving thing that's ever happened to me. Noticeable number of gay couples by the way. As a gay guy, I tend to notice this. I'd also say that industrial music fits a gay aesthetic and sensibility of sorts with its emphasis on camp and artifice, though it might not be immediately obvious.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2013 10:40 |
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Sometimes it's more obvious though (or basically any videos from Familientreffen would do here) I think a straight male aesthetic would be more inclined towards disavowing an appearance. It's: "What you see is what you get." It's all natural and authentic, baby. I'm thinking of country music singers, a lot of punk musicians, rock stars, and Bruce Springsteen. But before I came out of the closet, this kind of straight male authenticity was - for me - a fabrication. I tried really hard to be "natural" and failed at it. So I feel that artificial-sounding music is a more authentic reflection of my situation than a Bruce Springsteen is, or some other music that prides itself on being without artificiality. Because I find that incredibly fake. Deep thoughts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=822fuKljzrw
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2013 01:27 |
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Female vocals. Wait for this crazy (but patient) French music to get to this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyyfVciL7kY Also, this below isn't industrial (it's gothic pop-rock), but try The Eden House. They're a UK act from some former Fields of the Nephilim guys who have a rotating cast of female vocalists. And they're spectacular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uJPbL6LwWk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLPST6_SsUE This song is pretty fantastic too. And this. And this. Also, Mexican/Tijuana hipster witch house! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvUjmDzS5G0 BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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It's taken to a real excess. I'm not quite sure why, other than that the subculture is much more focused on aesthetic themes than other genres. It's less overtly political than punk or hip-hop and much more about mood. Hence clothes are more important. The cyber-fashion thing also seems antiquated in a world in which grandma now has a Facebook account. The wired, connected and neon-lit dystopian future that the style is supposed to represent really isn't the future anymore, right? It's the present. To illustrate it even more, this is an actual photograph: BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Feb 22, 2013 |
# ¿ Feb 22, 2013 00:21 |
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There's apparently some neo-folk and martial industrial bands playing a free show at a coffeeshop in my city tonight. One's Facebook page shows them looking like the Hitler Youth with descriptions about Germanic blood neo-paganism. Oh God. A friend and myself are going to check this out. This is going to be horrible. Edit: Well that was horrible. It was free though, and we stayed about 15 minutes. But that scene is filled with literal Nazis. Interesting to see it in the flesh. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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Listening to KMFDM post-WWII is to me like the musical equivalent of going to a whorehouse or having heterosexual sex. I can tell myself that I enjoy it, but I really don't.The Cleaner posted:Industrial: The Anus of Electronic Music My friend and myself sort of knew - conceptually - what we were getting into by going. We have both been interested in far right extremism as a kind of perverse academic curiosity for awhile, and here was a chance to see it in action, not have to pay any money, and not have to travel very far (literally next to a coffeeshop in the smack middle of Austin). It was still somewhat shocking. The inside of the venue was lit all in red. There were guys, including a local gothic-industrial DJ, walking around in full matching blackshirt regalia. (Like no-joke jackboots and uniforms.) Lots of SS Death's Head patches. There were these men who hadn't shaved in a few days standing around eyeing people while wearing Death in June t-shirts and camouflage. More than anything it was ridiculous and funny. But my friend, a fairly reverent Christian, starting getting really creeped out and began talking like Chef in Apocalypse Now about it being pagan idolatry: evil, Nazi stuff! (He was right about that.) BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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hatelull posted:Holy poo poo and this went down in Austin? Which coffee shop? boo_radley posted:Signs your neo-folk show may be fascististic: BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:I have come to the realization that liking Blutengel is nothing to be ashamed of very simply because Blutengel owns. I might actually have to get the box edition of Monument, it sounds so good. I'm also not hearing the bathos-dripping vampire aesthetic come through very strongly. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) It's more like 80s goth cyberpunk.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2013 20:00 |
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DeusExMachinima posted:I've seen a live video of Lucifer so you can enjoy that. They've never done an American tour so I haven't seen them. They're also apparently really popular along the border, or relatively speaking, according to what I heard from an industrial DJ from the south Texas border I chatted with a few weeks ago. Apparently them coming to Mexico was kind of a big deal. Bizarrely, they even went on television. This is because Mexico is awesome. Unfortunately, the border industrial scene got kiboshed because of the drug war, since the bigger clubs were apparently on the Mexico side and the violence put an end to the cross-border nightlife. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Mar 4, 2013 |
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Full version of the new Blush Response album just dropped. I linked to the song "Delusional" awhile ago. Pretty good stuff: http://basicunitproductions.bandcamp.com/album/tension-strategies
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2013 21:57 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Also Pseudocide is just awful I think we need a "KMFDM Shreds."
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2013 21:56 |
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So I caught a really cool EBM/industrial/dark electronic musician at South by Southwest this last Friday. Xander Harris is a local artist here who does 80s cyberpunk-themed instrumental music and has an album named after the book Snow Crash (try the song BIOS), a song sampling the 1984 movie Dune, and a really sweet album called Urban Gothic. The sound was great and was in small theater that felt like it was from a David Lynch movie. Really tiny, with only about a six-foot space in front of the stage to stand, and then maybe 30 or 40 elevated seats behind that (it's normally used for live comedy), in something like four rows, and with a bunch of avant-garde-looking motherfuckers sitting there staring. And here was this guy on stage, with a green curtain behind him, fog machines, and a bunch of keyboards and computers playing it loud. I was half-expecting Dennis Hopper to be sitting in the corner and sucking on an oxygen tank. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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Convergence is this weekend. I'm in the same town but the lineup isn't great: http://www.elysiumonline.net/events.html Eh.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2013 05:28 |
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Twiin posted:Mentallo and The Fixer! I'd kill to see that live. Nothing else looks great though. My favorite thing is the gothic boat cruise, which I saw advertised. The city apparently has the largest urban bat colony in the world (don't know how many, except I know it's a gently caress load of bats) underneath the main bridge across the Colorado River. For those who've never been to Austin, downtown sits astride that river. So a boat full of goths sailing down the river to look at the bats. Presumably they'll get pizza afterwards. And the image of that is ridiculous. But the bats are awesome. They come out at sundown every evening in big swarms. To feed. DeusExMachinima posted:Is this the alt.gothic Convergence? BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Apr 20, 2013 |
# ¿ Apr 20, 2013 05:51 |
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It sorta sounds like a lot of this "witch house"* music I've been listening to lately because I am a terrible hipster. At least it's not bad. And that's good. Probably better than the last few albums. Also, I admittedly laughed at the "We'll make you feel the Jim Jones vibe" line in the opening song. Plasicage is * Speaking of that, have some: https://soundcloud.com/m-c-ll/sets/remixes-collaborations-4 BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 04:33 on May 1, 2013 |
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For aggressive, tranc-ey industrial music, I'm enjoying this: http://vendettamusic.bandcamp.com/album/we-had-a-carnival http://www.idieyoudie.com/2013/05/sleetgrout-we-had-a-carnival/ BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 1, 2013 |
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So there's a new Suicide Commando album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVnHeh7mYE The bloggers at I Die: You Die had this to say: quote:Johan Van Roy is pretty creatively conservative. For all the dimestore transgression is his lyrics (death, murder, god hates us/is a dick, etc.) he sticks close to what’s been working for him since the massive breakthrough that was 2000′s Mindstrip. And why not? His audience seems content for him to produce upgraded versions of the same minor key oontz exercises every couple of years, complete with slightly better production and a new set of evil movie samples. Aside from the dubious distinction of being the band who has inspired more awful EBM than anyone else (arguably a title shared with the similarly hidebound Hocico) there hasn’t been much that argues for Suicide Commando’s relevance beyond his existing fanbase.
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# ¿ May 9, 2013 21:08 |
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Yeah that's a good point. I've never written about music, either. Like trying to capture something in 400+ words every day. It's probably a lot different when you're doing that.
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# ¿ May 10, 2013 00:29 |
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Awesome work. I'm listening to the SoundCloud stream hosting by the label over at ID:YD. "An ohGr album made on a Sega Genesis" is what they called it. This rules. I love your last album too but this is better.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 17:15 |
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W424 posted:I just finished making a video for Cardinal Noire: Narkomat Around 2:05 I started doing this:
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2013 21:26 |
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If you're talking about the French rats study, then you should know they were a tumor-prone breed of rats and the control group was too small. Anyways, cigarettes are a problem. Cervical cancer caused by HPV is also a problem (spread by overcrowding). But the real problem is that humans simply live longer now, and if you control for age and those anomalies (cigarettes, HPV, etc.) then cancer rates have remained pretty flat compared to the baseline.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 08:51 |
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So I'm hooked on the new Distorted Memory. It's techno I heard about it on ID:YD, because obviously. quote:The Eternal Return isn’t all subtle and funereal pacing and production; at least half of its tunes are upbeat kickers with plenty of floor potential. I’m getting a downright Animotion-esque feel from the stabby organ lead on “Back Away” which put a grin on my face the moment I heard it. While “Back Away” is handily the most infectious, “disco night in a Castlevania level” track, a sense of dancey immediacy is maintained more or less throughout the record. It’s populated with rounded, almost bouncy leads and beats, again, supplanting the more caustic and harsh elements of earlier Distorted Memory work. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Jul 8, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 8, 2013 11:11 |
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Death in June is touring the U.S. haha oh man. Hoo hee. Hrm.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 18:25 |
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Pope Guilty posted:Here and I was wondering which US cities had active antifa scenes. I might hit up the lefty infoshop, though. They'd probably know. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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I imagine more clubs and bars? I live in Austin which is a metro of 1.5 million or so, and the city is an influential place for music as people here like to remind everyone. It's supposed to be globally influential. And there's a goth club. And we're lucky: It has a witch house night! And does dark music on more than one night of the week! And you know, the occasional touring artist from Europe. Population-wise that's equivalent to Munich, right? I wonder what a comparatively dull German city with 1/3 of the population has in comparison. Maybe more? On the plus side, there are some really creative artists and DJs here who are into experimental post-industrial and witch house styled music. But festivals? Nothing. They've tried to have them here and they've either imploded with some accusations of dodgy pump-and-dump schemes on the part of the organizers, or are just absolutely lovely with the worst Funker Vogt retread bands. But there's probably a lot of really awful German industrial bands playing local clubs I've never heard, so... BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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Kanye West made the best industrial album of the year.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2013 06:40 |
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It's stuff like that is why I started avoiding interacting with musicians, trying to meet them, or really trying to talk to them at all. I like musicians and all. But I think the impulse to get to know entertainers because they are entertainers is not a healthy one. If you're a musician or an entertainer of some sort, and I run into you at the bar or meet you outside the context of our ordinary relationship (where I give you money and you entertain me), then that's cool. But I'm not talking to *the entertainer* at that point. But I will deliberately avoid them usually. I'd much rather put up a firewall between me and these people. And the "fans are idiots" thing is as much true for me as anyone else. Why would the musician care what I have to think about their music? I don't have any advice to give. If I don't like it, then I won't listen to them or go to the show. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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Twiin posted:Tom Shear is a great example of someone who is engaging online. He also knows how to disagree with fans without insulting them, which is a surprisingly rare trait in this community. But I don't know if I'd go out of my way to meet him. In a sense you're paying people like him to watch them work, because it's entertaining. But I question how much we really know these people. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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Noricae posted:It gets a bit annoying once too many side projects get formed (whose material is much harder to track down). (But also seems like a cool guy, from what I can tell.)
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I've never been able to really get into Project Pitchfork and make them a regular part of my music ... BUT I have to say that some of their songs like Rain are really sublime and patient. They really do make some of the best dark electro-EBM music right now. Another band in a similar vein is X Marks the Pedwalk. Anyways I've been taking a break from industrial music for the past few weeks, which I do occasionally. But one band that's been appearing a lot on my playlists is Pankow. They've been around for a very long time apparently and I'd never given them any attention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZv9nRfxgo8
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