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chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
Throbbing Gristle have a bunch of stuff that's pleasant to listen to. "United" is basically a pop song.

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chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

Twiin posted:

I suspect the rights likely belong to Chris and Cosey now.

How does that make sense? Not sure about Peter, but Geoff at least had a long term partner-- I'd assume that if he had a will, Ian was in it.

I'd imagine that the discography will probably never come into print again, except for bootlegs or quasi-legal pressings-- the kind of stuff that even went on while Coil were functioning.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

Samael Jackson posted:

guys, help me out. I saw a video a while ago and can't remember the artist or name of the song and it's bugging me to find it now. the song was instrumental. if I remember right, it was a pretty experimental/noisey track. raw sounding with a lot of synth drums and stuff. the video was all 3d spikey geometric shapes that changed with the music. it wasn't too old. if I had to guess, within the last decade or so. that's all I got!

edit: I also get the feeling that the group name was some one word weird name along the lines of wumpscut or haujobb or the like.

Was it Gantz Graf by Autechre?

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
This whole discussion reminds me of when I went to Convergence in 2001, which is apparently this huge goth festival that happens annually at different cities around the world. I only went because they had booked Coil to play, and I had been a huge Coil fan for years. Now I love a lot of goth-approved music, but I'm not a goth. I went to the show in, like, jeans and a button-down plaid shirt, and I got the worst vibes from people. Ultimately I don't give a poo poo, but I will admit that it hurts my ability to really explore the music since I tend to swiftly dismiss stuff that gives off those ultra scene vibes.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
Someone's always going to rescue and dig up music at a later date, though-- even if they're re-contextualizing it or presenting it to an altogether different target audience as some exotic artifact.

Case in point: one of the hipper British techno labels just put out a vinyl edition of material by mid-90s Fifth Colvumn artists Black Rain. They essentially stripped all the tracks with vocals from their 1995 album 1.0, resenquenced the instrumental stuff, put a new cover on it, and hyped it as this lost classic of dark techno. That poo poo sold out in like 2 days, and now Black Rain are a "thing" again.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
But what I'm saying is that current 20somethings in England buying stuff on Blackest Ever Black are getting this music now because it's been re-contextualized to fit in with stuff that's getting played in clubs right now-- techno nights, not no-wave or industrial nights or whatever. So the music endures, even if it's not in the hands of those who were originally checking it.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

The Cleaner posted:

Thanks man! Glad ya like it.


I remember seeing the band Slipknot on the FRONT COVERS of some mainstream music magazines just before their debut album even dropped.

I doubt that very much. Roadrunner did give a huge promo push for the second album, but hardly anyone outside of Iowa knew who Slipknot was before their first album, or even indeed until they signed with Roadrunner.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
Well that was also their second album, so yeah. They had been touring and playing shows for a while.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
A Skinny Puppy/FLA tour would be able to book and fill larger venues than either band could alone, I'd assume.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
That Will Oldham cover of "Ostia" just makes me feel such regret that Coil never did the planned collaboration with him.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

Masonic Youth posted:

http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/14/coils-reissues-through-threshold-archives/
Coil's discography is being reissued, complete with previously unreleased bonus material apparently recovered from all over the place, on Threshold Archives.

Just FYI, these things are (understandably) going really quickly-- they're already sold out of half of them at Forced Exposure (who is doing US distribution), and UK spots like norman records and Boomkat sold out within hours. Who knows if Brainwashed is planning on keeping them in print, or even going to 2nd pressings.

At the very least, the quick sellout bodes well for the turnaround time for batch #2. I kind of wish I had bought doubles of all 8 releases for posterity, but hindsight is 20/20.

The releases are loving amazing, by the way.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

TOOT BOOT posted:

Supposedly they're going to press more, they didn't realize how much pent up demand there was. They're not intended to be super limited or anything.

I haven't heard that from anywhere-- Jon Whitney has been mostly pretty mum about the whole thing, and didn't even own up to the fact that it was Brainwashed behind the releases until a day or so before they started shipping. I doubt the plan is to press a ton of copies, as Whitney himself said he doesn't want to be running a label full time, and that all profits will go to Coil bandmates and family members.

Don't get me wrong, I bought the hell out of all 8, and I'm really glad they exist, but these are quasi-legal at best, so anyone who wants them should have the plan to buy them immediately.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
Forced Exposure says they don't think a repress is happening. Norman Records says a repress ISN'T happening.

I get that you and I are the only people in this thread talking about this, and we both bought them all, but still, everyone-- these cost $9.50 a pop 2 weeks ago. Going for around $30 a pop today on discogs.

To talk about the music a little bit-- holy poo poo, the Horse Rotorvator demos on The Wheel CD are amazing. It's so great to hear Coil's process a little bit, to pick up on all the little things they TOOK OUT of these songs before they were officially released. Similarly, the unreleased stuff on the Hellraiser disc is top notch. That last track, with the loop that begins to gradually slow down more and more-- holy poo poo.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
What time has PIG been taking the stage on this tour?

The show in my town has doors at 7:00, show at 7:30, but then there are 4 loving opening bands.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001

teethgrinder posted:

What bands are opening?

Julien-K and Ghostfeeder, as per the whole tour, but my local show has a couple local openers as well: Roseclouds and Tescon Pol.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Doors were at 7, show at 8 and PIG came on at 9.

Two opening bands. Julien K and Ghostfeeder. I missed both and walked in just when PIG took the stage. Cut it a bit close.

Crazy that two openers were on and off in 60 minutes...! I was kind of banking on PIG starting around 10. I'm taking an evening class right now, and the earliest I can make it to the venue would be like 9:50 if traffic is perfect.

How long was PIG's set?

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chime_on
Jul 27, 2001
PIG show was pretty awesome, I have to say. I haven't been to any kind of industrial rock show in a long time, and they definitely brought it. I preferred the version of "Juke Joint Jezebel" they played to the KMFDM version-- it had a Sisters of Mercy vibe that I never really picked up on before.

I got there in time to see maybe 20 minutes of Julien-K, who were... not good. Totally generic rock with synths, and a lot of embarrassing wanna-be Dave Gahan posing and preening from the singer. Pass on that.

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