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ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


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Halloween Jack posted:

That's exactly what I said, and apparently she did. She's a tiny woman, so being alone backstage (with guys who think it's funny to put violence against transgender women in their video) was not her idea of a good time. Apparently, if you're a makeup artist, people assume you're aroused by the allure of hard drugs.

Welp. I hadn't heard of Faderhead until I saw them live this past Friday, and now I feel guilty for thinking they were rad. :smith: I already can't stand Combichrist, and I enjoyed the first part of Nachtmare's set before they got weird with the sexism and poo poo. Is there anyone making that style of music that doesn't have serious issues, or is this just not the right scene for that.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Halloween Jack posted:

Well Wagner was a poo poo but he made some good music. How have you not heard "Dirtygrrrls/Dirtybois" eleventy thousand times like the rest of us? I want to know your secret.

Some people think that this kind of poo poo is happening because brostep fratboys are invading our scene, but I think that's dishonest: industrial music fandom has always included a lot of FedorasofOKCupid white guys who don't give a gently caress for progressive politics and take the militaristic power fantasies seriously.


VVV Edit: I forgot that they were drag queens and not transgender women. I doubt Faderdude knows the difference.

Honestly I only avoided it by getting out of industrial music for like ten years, until I started dating a girl who's super into it and kind of pulled me back in. I don't even know who most of the bands are anymore, but everyone just likes to sing about women being good places to jam either your dick or your fist. That said, it's not a problem unique to industrial (objectifying women is even more prevalent in hip-hop, but at least that imagery isn't so relentlessly violent), just something I didn't notice before that really bothers me now. I just want to jump around like an idiot to harsh mechanical sounds, and feel old when the music's too loud, not feel guilty about the lyrics, damnit.

I mean I know a lot of the older stuff was deliberately hyper-aggressive and used a ton of military imagery/costumes as part of that gimmick (I think probably half the bands I saw at Triton last weekend had the singer in a flak jacket or bullet-proof vest), but I don't remember it being quite as centered around sexual violence. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention before, but it really bothers me that I can't listen to some of these bands because they only sing about their terrible opinions.

Should I just stick to instrumental acts and/or people who sing in languages I don't speak.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


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Omi-Polari posted:

Oh I guess a new Covenant album is out. Prime Movers is a good song.

Neat, didn't know they had a new album out.

Initial impressions on first listen: I like the title track, it has a good beat, even though it's kind of weird compared to their usual stuff. Prime Movers is good, and Last Dance and Auto (Circulation) seem like the other bangers. They're kind of doing the VNV Nation thing and including a couple of slower tracks (I Walk Slow). I'm really not into that, since I just want Covenant to be fast and dumb club music to put on during work, but overall, yup, it's exactly what I expected. I'm happy with it being on Spotify, but if I'd paid actual money for it I might be more lukewarm.

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Mar 2, 2002


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VNV Nation released a new song from Transnational, which apparently comes out this month. Bit of a banger: https://soundcloud.com/vnvnation/retaliate-from-the-album

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Mar 2, 2002


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AgentKaz posted:

The Transnational album preview is out and while I admit I always love everything VNV Nation ever does I love this even more so far.

https://soundcloud.com/vnvnation/transnational-album-preview

Nice to see they haven't deviated from their usual pattern of solid club bangers with a slow song every third track. Seems better than their last couple of albums, though, and I'm pumped for this to drop on (apparently) Friday.

Retaliate is such a loving jam, it's just ridiculous.

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Mar 2, 2002


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SacrificialGoat posted:

So I saw Velvet Acid Christ last night. I thought with all the serious-rear end music and the corpse paint that he'd be all serious business, but he wasn't at all. The light show was pretty impressive for a 12 dollar ticket.

Yeah, when he came out looking like some kind of juggalo Giorgio Moroder I got a little worried, but he actually seemed like a pretty cool guy (the response he got for talking about the Denver Broncos was hilarious). My experience has been that most of these guys just come out and play songs, maybe yell some angry stuff, and rarely introduce the band, so it was a refreshing surprise to see someone who knows how to work a crowd. I didn't even mind that he kept having to gently caress with the equipment, because every time he had to stall for time he'd usually say something hilarious.

I got a little sick of the Asylum 13 promoter not shutting his trap, though. I went to one of their events in Wilmington, and I don't really think I'll go back (though, in their defense, $5 for a PBR tallboy and a shot of Jameson got me pretty hammered).

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Mar 2, 2002


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Twiin posted:

Edit: Thought I'd take a moment to do this better

My sometimes-band Cyanotic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFC7apJ6LKY

Yup, this owns (and is on Spotify, too).

I'm a sucker for anything that samples Videodrome.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


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They came through Wilmington again? I saw them up there in July, it kinda ruled. I wasn't too familiar with them going into it, but they put on a pretty great show, glad to hear they're nice guys as well.

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Mar 2, 2002


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SacrificialGoat posted:

Skinny Puppy was superb

Agreed. Saw them last night, and even though I don't know many of their songs that show ruled so hard because it was weird and made no sense. About the point where he started playing around with the knife while circuit boards flashed around in the background, I realized that this is probably what old people think every industrial show is like, and that owns.

The openers weren't terrible, just way too loving loud for my old rear end.

EDIT: They did not play "Assimilate".

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Mar 2, 2002


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hatelull posted:

I don't really understand what you are trying to say here.

I mean, like, most industrial shows I've gone to are pretty much just regular concerts. Maybe the dress is a little different, or you see the Cruxshadows and Rogue does some goofy stuff because that's who he is, but mostly it's still just a band on stage and some flashing lights. Skinny Puppy had a lot of weird props, visuals, and outfits and poo poo going on, and it felt to me like I was in some late 90's movie version of a cyberpunk club. I think that's what I meant, that it was a lot weirder and cooler, more performance art than just playing songs, and if I showed it to my mom she would have been like "yes, this is the satanic hell bus i figured it would be", when most of the goth/industrial shows and clubs I go to are just regular people, albeit dressed in more black.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Pope Guilty posted:

In case you're not following the latest Nachtmahr drama, Tommy Boy commissioned this:



And so somebody made this song, which rules.









das boobermensch

I still listen to Nachtmahr sometimes, even if the new album is forgettable outside of like two songs, and I just saw and enjoyed the hell out of them live last month, but this song owns really hard and perfectly encapsulates how loving goofy and stupid Tom Rainer is.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Omi-Polari posted:

I want to go to Infest. Next weekend my town is hosting the Texas Industrial Fest:

http://www.texasindustrialfest.com/

I'm deciding whether or not to check some of it out. I've avoided it in previous years since it's been repeatedly canceled (organizers trying to do too much + foreign acts) leaving them scrambling for alternative venues. A lot of people were wondering whether it was a scam.

Now it looks like they've scaled it back a bit.

Mostly Texas and down-south acts, with one group (Decoded Feedback) from Canada. Some of these bands ... are not the best. I love the bios: "[Band] is more than just an Electronic Hard-Rock band in Austin, TX." (No, it is just that.)

But some of the synth groups could be fun. And I have a cheesy soft spot for Rio Grande Valley aggrotech.

I laughed really, really, hard at the band called HELLTRASH, but now I'm listening to them and they seem like they kind of own.

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Mar 2, 2002


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magiccarpet posted:

Youth Code are up on Pitchfork Advance with the new record.

http://pitchfork.com/advance/544-a-place-to-stand/

Its incredible.

Goddamn, this owns a lot.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Quirk posted:

I gotta say though Mortal Kombat inperticular did give industrial that second wind in the mid 90s, the first soundtrack went platinum in a week and they made a follow up CD called More Kombat with freaking Chemlab's Exile on Mainline.

loving Chemlab. I hung out with the goth-lite kids in high school, we'd get the one dude's older brother to buy us beers, play Goldeneye on the N64, and listen to KMFDM and NIN, then one of them lent me Burnout at the Hydrogen Bar and holy gently caress. That album, and East Side Militia, still own real hard.

I burned out on VNV and future pop, stopped following the scene for a while, then started dating a girl who was really into CombiChrist et al (who I was really into until I actually listened to the words). I've been going to more shows the last couple of years, which has gotten me back into the scene, even if I've gotten old and terrible and wear ear plugs most of the time. There's really just one halfway-decent club night a month here in Baltimore, and a place up in Wilmington Delaware that does good shows, even if they're usually on loving Thursday nights.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Kaddish posted:

Weapon is the best post-comeback album imo.

Weapon owns.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Picked up tickets for Skinny Puppy/Youth Code in Baltimore, mega-excited about that show. Skinny Puppy are amazing live, and I've wanted to see Youth Code for a while now.

teethgrinder posted:

Next week I have to look forward to:

August 26: Birthday Massacre
August 27: Bruderschaft, FGFC820
August 28: Velvet Acid Christ, Tactical Sekt
August 29: Haujobb, Conjure One, 3Teeth

FGFC820 permanently ingratiated themselves to me by doing an Ich Bin Ein Auslander cover

Aug 27-30 is the Aftermath festival. Lots of other stuff too I'm not very familiar with.

I saw FGFC820 in NYC a couple of years ago, and man that was a strange show. I think the singer was drunk or in the middle of getting divorced, because he went off on bizarre tangents a few times. They were good otherwise, but I stopped listening to them after that because it was just too weird for me.

VAC owns live though, and I'm jelly of seeing Tactical Sekt and Haujobb (I almost saw them once, but I got lost, showed up late, and missed them when they opened for VNV Nation a while back). That's a hell of a line-up there.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Went to the Youth Code/Skinny Puppy show in Baltimore last night, and I don't know if my ears are ever going to stop ringing. Youth Code owns a lot live.

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Mar 2, 2002


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CAT rear end now!!! posted:

Please wear ear protection.

I usually do, I hosed my hearing up pretty bad from going to shows when I was younger, and eventually learned my lesson. :smith: I forgot them this time, and resorted to jamming wadded-up cocktail napkins in my ears because I drank too much and just had to get up front for a while. Which kinda helped, but I ended up spending most of the show in the back of the room anyway. Not far enough back I guess, but that venue is kind of stupid loud.

ohrwurm posted:

I think that was one of the best SP performances I've seen (post reunion). Also got a few compliments on my Chelsea Wolfe shirt.

I've only seen them once before, a few years ago in Silver Spring, and this was definitely a better performance.

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Mar 2, 2002


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ohrwurm posted:

holy shitttttt it's out
this album is amazing
youth code forever

Holy poo poo yes, new Youth Code owns.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Bunch of new Youth Code tour dates announced, including playing maybe my least-favorite dive here in Baltimore, but poo poo, for twelve bucks I'd be crazy not to go.

EDIT: I am going to try real hard to remember my ear plugs this time.

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Mar 2, 2002


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I saw them live a few years ago, I think right around the time WTF?! came out. I had a good time, because I'd always wanted to see them but missed for various reasons, but I couldn't shake the feeling that high school me would be incredibly disappointed. They had this run - basically from Naive to Symbols - that more or less defined my taste in this awful genre for a lot of years growing up (XTORT came out when I was 13, and was the soundtrack to a solid year or two of smoking weed and playing Goldeneye after school). Now it's just Sascha selling coconut water or whatever the gently caress while they play the same boring-rear end song for an hour on every album, and it makes me sad. They should have hung it up after MDFMK, which I think is about when Esch/Watts/Skold got thrown out. Completely agree with the assessment that their best years were when they were a massive rotating crop of lunatics who swapped out between songs, it brought so much variety, and it was just this crazy thing that a suburban idiot like me had never seen before. It felt transgressive and underground in a way that I'm sure says more about me than it does about the band, but still, blew up my whole poo poo.

Basically what I think I'm saying is that KMFDM is the Goth Wu-Tang Clan.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Just throwing this out there, but I have a ticket for the Youth Code show in Baltimore tonight, and I (read: my boss) have determined I won't be free this evening. If anyone happens to want it, PM me, I guess. No money, just promise me you'll rock out to the best of your abilities.

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Mar 2, 2002


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hatelull posted:

Has anyone seen the recent incarnation(s) of KMFDM? I haven't seen them play live since the NIHIL tour, and really haven't cared much for their albums after the one that had "Last Things" on it. They're launching a tour with OhGr on the bill, so the Ogre/Puppy fanboi in me is already pushing the money toward that noise. Pretty sure KFMDM is the headliner. Normally, I wouldn't bother but since Ogre is touring I'm hoping to at least suffer through the set in the hopes of getting "Torture", "Full Worm Garden" or, "That's All" out of them.

Do they still pull out old classics? Maybe I get some "Godlike", "More and Faster", or "Go to Hell."

I saw them maybe 2 or 3 years ago, and honestly it was kind of a let-down. They played mostly newer stuff from the last couple albums, the period where Sascha gave up on life and everything started sounding the same, but a few classics too, so it wasn't a total loss. I'm glad I went, because they'd been on my list literally since I was in high school and for various reasons I'd never gotten around to it.

That said, I'm still going, because we don't always get the raddest genre shows here, and it's still KMFDM and Oghr.

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Mar 2, 2002


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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Going to see Covenant, Grendel and ... Aesthetic Perfection eh in April.

Two out of three ain't bad.

Industrial Bon Jovi here I come.

Grendel owns live and I haven't seen AP yet but I want to.

Problem is, the nearest show to me is 90 minutes away, on a Thursday night. Still, considering it.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Sorely tempted to go up to NYC for that first night just to see Chemlab. Otherwise, yeah, gotta admit the lineup doesn't do much for me.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Going to the GosT/A&P/3TEETH show in Baltimore tomorrow, extremely stoked about this.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Pope Guilty posted:

Did Gost play anything from the upcoming album?

Yeah, or at least some I didn't recognize, and if that was any indication, the new album is gonna bang. I didn't even know it was Gost at first, last time around he was solo and didn't do any vocals, so very different show this time.

Author & Punisher was much better live than I expected. Just insanely heavy, and watching the guy gently caress around with his home-made synth setup was rad as hell.

3TEETH also owned.

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Mar 2, 2002


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Godmachine posted:

I'm in favor of making a new thread. I starting this thread 9 years ago when I was far more active on SA than I am now. I think the music has evolved considerably since then and the original post should reflect those changes. I'd volunteer but, sadly, my music taste falls more into "cold wave" stuff like Linea Aspera and Minuit Machine nowadays; I don't keep up with Industrial like I used to. Though I'm seeing Skold/3TEETH/Carnifex this weekend.

I'm starting to feel old, goons.

I have no comment on any of this except to say that 3TEETH put on an incredible live show and they rule.

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