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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'd love to see the frame bender they used.

spipedong posted:

I literally have an e-waste box full of HT600's an HT1000's - no 2000's though.
Are they getting scrapped or what? You could probably pull some decent cash for those at a ham radio swap meet, ham radio guys love em.

B4Ctom1 posted:

I have seen this before where 3 locomotives were doing it at the same time. Still happens from time to time on a single locomotive but you won't see it as often
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3e4_1327483866

what causes this? Extremely rich exhaust plus a spark in the wrong place or something?

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Cat Terrist posted:

Can someone enlighten what a foamer is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYXNwvcl6A

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Giblet Plus! posted:

EMD is like the Harley of locomotives. Just putting that out there.

for when you really need an efficient way to convert fuel into noise without the byproduct of power?

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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drat, that's some quality artwork.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Shifty Pony posted:

I also read somewhere that CSX requires Amtrak to run two engines on the long routes so that if one craps itself the train can still proceed. That could be BS though.

I thought it was so they could flat-spot the wheels and do twice the damage to the rails per run.

I mean, this is CSX we're talking about...

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Around here the usual nickname is Chemical Spill Express.

Apparently they own the tracks from Boston to Worcester, I used to ride those on the MBTA purple line twice a week and recall some hair raising rides - like the time I accidentally ended up on a disabled/broken car that was being dragged back to Boston for repairs and nearly had my teeth knocked out by the constant pounding from a cracked or badly flat spotted wheel.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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on the plus side, they didn't end up in Detroit.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Nerobro posted:

And that's not all of it. There are even some locomotives that use honest to goodness gears to drive the wheels. And hilariously complex transmissions to make it all work. Even multiple engines, driving a differential so one engine can shut down. Freaking germans...

I want to see pics of the clutch disc they use for this.

DC electric motors are awesome for a reason. Full torque from zero, bitches.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'm pretty sure that's what happens when the blower/turbo fails to produce any kind of boost - the fuelling system is still injecting enough fuel for the amount of air it expects, but the air isn't there, so the exhaust ends up as a significant amount of superheated fuel vapor.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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General_Failure posted:

I have a question. How far can the sound of trains carry / what else sounds like a train?

Since we moved here sometimes I hear what sounds like a ghost train. Ie the unmistakeable sound of wheels on tracks and the right kind of airhorns.

I live here
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=finl...+Australia&z=10
and it sounds like it's coming from N/NE.

Three years now and I haven't been able to figure it out. Maybe someone more familiar with everything than I can shed some light on this mystery.

Well, there's a right of way passing north of you, I'd have to say 30-40 miles, you can see it clearly between whitton and yanco. I'd have to guess that either it's still active, or whatever you're hearing is along it. Pretty flat terrain between your town and there, so I wouldn't be too surprised if you could hear it.

e: appears to be another going northeast along highway 39, as well. Much closer to you.

kastein fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 2, 2012

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Not sure, but I hope barney fife tries to pull the trains over for speeding, because you know it'll end up on youtube.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I love the faux bloodstain on the rear deck edge.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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These kids kick rear end and I wish I was them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPu3WJ9xuBY

I don't think they're going to get run over by a real train anytime soon by the look of those tracks.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Geoj posted:

Hell, I'd gladly pay more if it meant not having to deal with the gestapo at airports. Nothing beats getting to the airport 3 hours early and still having to run down the concourse and board your flight just before they seal the door...

:allears: that's so cool! :allears:

We should have abolished the TSA a long time ago.

quote:

"We are not the Airport Security Administration," said Ray Dineen, the air marshal in charge of the TSA office in Charlotte. "We take that transportation part seriously."

:commissar:: papers please, citizen!

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I was assuming either he ran off the end of a siding accidentally or the rails were too far apart from lack of maintenance and the train just dropped down between em.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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B4Ctom1 posted:

That is actually a railroad joke and the reason for making us all start wearing hi-viz vests.

Military/AF joke, as well, from what I've seen. They're real big on high-visibility belts and vests.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Since the eastbound crew was likely asleep at the wheel or fumblefucking around playing strip poker in the caboose or something, I'm not sure I'm very sympathetic with them not having enough warning to get out alive. Sucks for the railroad, the other train's crew, and everyone whose cargo got hosed up, though.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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It's a sorta nifty idea, the opposite helix cut of each gear keeps there from being any end loading on either the driving shaft or the driven/axle shaft from the gears, while doubling torque transfer capacity per shaft. Should reduce the need for thrust bearings in the traction motor or whatever intermediate shaft/gears mesh with those ones, I would think.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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No Pun Intended posted:

A controlled derailment is a lot less of a bad thing than having a crash.

Yeah, that looks like a few hours for a crane and a recovery crew to pick it up and roll it back onto the track instead of, say, a few boxcars rolling onto the main line by accident and getting pancaked by a freight train doing 60.

Does railroading have a term like that old saw about "a good landing is one you walk away from"? Because that looks like a good landing to me, maybe even a great one ("a great landing is one you walk away from... and can use the plane again within 24 hours!") :v:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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A train vs a railcar or three at 5mph isn't going to do anything - that's what you see in coupling. The train just couples to the car(s) and starts pushing them.

A train vs another train at 5mph? There is too much mass on both sides to simply accelerate one or the other, so something's got to give. I assume derailment, smashed cars, etc are all possible simply because the trains try to bunch up in the middle where they collide and it doesn't end well.

(note: Not a railroad pro, so I may completely have my head up my rear end here.)

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Well, here's a section of abandoned track that has some trestles on it still...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7buTCULLeY

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Yeah now I can't stop watching videos of those and I want to build one. Dammit.

Here is a horrific train wreck on what appears to be CSX track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQi3YNaVms

:haw:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Veins McGee posted:

CSX doesn't even operate in Maine or whatever frozen northern tundra you live in.

I do not live in Maine, fortunately. I'm in Massachusetts... a slightly less northern frozen tundra.

We have CSX - in fact I'm reasonably certain they own the tracks from Worcester to Boston that the MBTA commuter rail runs on, and are known for not bothering to maintain their track in the area, thus why I was poking fun at them. I know they own and operate the freight yard in Worcester and from what I can find, one in Boston as well.

e: B4CTom1, that's a pretty recent incident... like 6 days ago? I didn't know anyone published reports that fast. Haven't looked at it all yet, what's the yellow stuff that got spilled, corn? And it looks like an axle bearing seized and a wheel started dragging instead of rolling?

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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That's probably the Franklin Street terminal in Worcester that you're talking about them rebuilding. They've been working on it for several years now AFAIK, I know they've finished digging out the side of a hill and building a new retaining wall there. Good to know they're actually putting money into stuff, my sources were probably misinformed on that.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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That's it. I used to ride the commuter rail from there to Boston at least twice a week a few years ago when they were really in full swing construction wise.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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9axle posted:

It's all done. The spent somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 million on the project, and the Great Wall of Worcester is a sight to behold. I lost money in the pool when it didn't collapse into a spectacular landslide,(I was betting the hurricane this fall would do it in.)

It sure is. I like how it's bolted into... um... something? deep in the hillside.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Generally around here they just drag it out as the train moves, leave it alongside the track where it's going to be used.

Then various methods are used to put it in place. I think my favorite is this mindblowing magic machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUOUXnuCLOU

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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9axle posted:

The rail trains I have worked, when they get to the end of stick, the bolt with joint plates it the next stick so the end result is a continuous rail sometimes a mile or more long. They place it, then the welders come along later and weld the joints. You know it's going to be a long day when the foreman says "bring it back 3 inches so we can get the bolts in."

What, you don't just send the greenhorn back to the hirail for a rail stretcher? :haw:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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McDeth posted:

I think that if you're driving a truck filled with dangerous chemicals and end up getting hit by a train, your drivers license should be revoked permanently. I mean, it's not that hard to avoid getting hit by a train...

I'm pretty sure being dead kinda precludes needing a license.

For the ones who survive I couldn't agree more.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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And how the gently caress do you do that? Does digsafe not exist wherever this was? Did they not hear the trains thundering by all the time?

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Looks about right to me, her head is slightly below the big pivot pin thing in the guide slot because she's leaned over a bit and standing on the side of a slope in the ballast, the dude's head in the other picture is slightly above it because he's standing up straight and is on level ground. The person taking the picture might have taken angles to their advantage, but it doesn't look like much of a difference.

It's a goddamn huge steam engine.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

Virgin Trains have embarked on a unique plan to reduce passenger congestion around the ticket barriers at Chester station: bypassing them completely.



I didn't know I HATE PINK BIKES was an engineer.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I have tossed safety glass (side windows out of a car) into a dumpster and had them bounce before. Stuff is surprisingly durable.

They're even making really crazy blended+tempered glass now, like the glass on many smartphone screens is Gorilla Glass. It's stressed on a molecular level in such a way that it takes incredible abuse to actually break the glass. In fact when I went looking for the demo video I saw of someone trying to break gorilla glass, it turns out they have another version out now that's even stronger.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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B4Ctom1 posted:

We have Obamabreak. It is called the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008.


Worked 6 days in a row without a 48 hour period off? 72 hours unpaid in the penalty box

Worked 12 hours and then it took 4 more hours to get you home? Sorry 10 hours rest plus 4 more hours unpaid penalty box

Worked 276 hours in any one or a combination of the following activities: on duty, waiting for transportation, in deadhead transportation to a place of final release, or in any other mandatory service for the carrier? Welp, you are not allowed to work for the rest of the month!



Yep, that is part of my route. I have been above zero so things are finally getting moving

Sydney >--> Laramie >--> Rawlins >--> Greenriver

The problem is that now about 20% of all the manpower is at the far terminal..

Wait, let me get this straight. So if the company fucks up scheduling and overworks you to the bone for too long due to their own cheapness in hiring or inability to plan ahead more than a few days, they can send you home without pay for a while? In fact they have to?

There is absolutely no way that will be abused. Nope. None.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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B4Ctom1 posted:

ugly UPRR rear-ender just east of Ogden on the east-west line
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-usa-utah-derailment-idUSBREA071LY20140108

Here is where that crash picture appears to be from
https://maps.google.com/maps?safe=off&q=41.136611,-111.899006

Friend of a friend actually witnessed this one.

http://www.kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_9045.shtml?wap=0

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Makes sense, you can cram the same amount of power through a #12 wire at 25kV as you would need a #000 wire for at 3kV (using NEC ratings for conductor ampacities, so YMMV, but you get the point.)

So you leave a lot less copper out there for someone to steal if you run 25kV, because your conductors are a hell of a lot smaller, and you also fry a lot more of the people who try and steal it! Two birds with one stone.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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It looks like he is running a wee bit rich :v:

It's not just the Russian way of doing things - Power = Voltage * Current (ignoring power factor for sake of example here... pretend the load is 100% resistive) so to get the same amount of power somewhere, you can jack up the voltage or the current and not have to deal with the other as much. Jacking up the current means more copper, jacking up the voltage means more insulation and care in termination. Insulation's pretty cheap compared to copper, at least up to a certain point.

You also lose less in your transmission lines if you jack up the voltage.

For the last century this has meant Tesla won and everyone ran AC, but now that we have modern, efficient high voltage thyristors at our disposal, HVDC power transmission is making a serious comeback.

Anyways. This is all somewhat of a derail and belongs more in the A/T industrial electricity thread, but it does have a certain amount of bearing on electric trains and such.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Axeman Jim posted:

opposed-cylinder diesel engine

I think you mean opposed-piston, but not sure.

Either way, ask your dad about the Junkers Jumo 205 engine sometime. I bet he knows all about it.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Yeah, even assuming the train consists of just a locomotive (typically around 250 metric tons from what I see on google) and your car weighs 5000lbs, you're at a 100 to 1 disadvantage there. Add on actual cargo and it's like a person stepping on an empty soda can.

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Aug 31, 2011

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BrokenKnucklez posted:

Last unit frac sand train i had on my desk was 32,000 tons. Yep. You just read that correctly. 244 short sand cars, 7 locomotives, and a length of 12000.

Max authorized speed: 50

And that guy flew along. Mostly because there was no place to park the fucker... so green lights the entire way.

I have to say, I read this, then I looked over at your big red text and chuckled. :haw:

That is one ginormous train. Do they tear up the tracks worse than smaller ones? Or is that more of a "weight per axle" thing that damages the track? Rough numbers looks like 130 tons per car, looks like 130-140 is allowed.

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