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Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Hockey is just that awesome?

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Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



xzzy posted:

Stuff about my feet

It would probably be pretty hard to diagnose your problem without seeing you skate. Can you post a vimeo upload or something?

The quick-hits are that your rear end is supposed to be on the ice (suuuuuuuuper deep knee bend). And don't watch drop-in. Most guys at drop-in skate like poo poo (coasting, hunching over, etc.). Laura Stamm has a bunch of tips on skating, as does Robby Glantz. You might start there.

Are your skates comfy? Too big (this could be an issue)? Also how many hours do you have total since the pain started? Ice-skating is a wholly unnatural movement/balance issue for the human body and it takes a while to break your legs in to both the movement and the gear.

Could be a musculo-skeletal issue as well. Are you using Superfeet and, additionally, do you have any problems with any other activities i.e. running? I'd be curious to know how you fare doing squats on a BOSU ball - or better - those little red bubbly looking things that throw you off just a little bit.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



xzzy posted:

Skating instructor suggested getting some superfeet last night, I haven't yet researched them.

Get them. They're $30 or so well spent.

As for the other thing, that really does sound like something musculoskeletal. Assuming you've baked your skates, 20 hours means you've more than broken in your skates and your feet. Unless your stride is super goofy or something you shouldn't be having that much pain in your shins. Like bewbies said, new skates get baked and break in within probably 5-10 hours at most. I'd probably head out to see an orthopedic specialist, or possibly a podiatrist.

But first do the Superfeet thing



(Christ, I feel like a salesman).

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



xzzy posted:

A good one, perhaps you have a future selling cars!

Do you use them in your shoes or your skates? Or both? I'm inclined to get them for my shoes to start with, my day-to-day shoes are pretty flat, but their description of the one intended for ice skates interests me.

You put them in your skates. Helps with arch support and volume (I have a high arch and a narrow, low-volume foot). It'll change the feel of your skate (you'll feel like you're taking up twice as much room as before), but that should start to feen natural after a couple of skates.

Worst case scenario is that they don't help, but now you have awesome insoles for your skates.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

My shaft is 49"

How do you walk?

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



xzzy posted:

Well, the camera itself is $350.

There's cheaper options out there, but you get what you pay for.

You can get a GoBro for $179 on Amazon. Lots of guys use this for taking videos of themselves in their steezy ski gear after a massive 3" dump.

I hadn't thought of hockey applications. Methinks there will be too much head movement, but I'm looking forward to being proven wrong.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2011 around 15:56

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



MiamiKid posted:

I'll be interested to see how your footage turns out. I got a GoProHD a few weeks ago for some other work, but have stuck it on my hockey helmet a couple times. The camera under exposes because of the ice, but I think the Contour has Exposure Compensation, which is nice. Anyway, here's my clips, occasional cussing so not totally work safe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4E-IpbSDAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wR6fnBsEjY

I've used the 720p 60fps setting.

The GoPro looks a lot better than the countour, IMHO. The wide angle and elevated platform make it a bit easier to watch. Maybe it was just the cage in the other one. This was actually pretty good. Image was stable, no camera shake to speak of.

My only complaint is the video makes it look like you're dumping the puck around the boards a lot instead of making tape-to-tape passes on defense

(OK, I talk poo poo because I'm terrible.)

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2011 around 17:01

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Played games Sunday through Wednesday. Donated blood yesterday. Went to drop-in at lunch today. Only 8 people showed up so we played 4-on-4 the whole game.

Not saying I was hallucinating, but I'm pretty sure at one point I had to stick-handle through three panda bears and a giant shark.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



dms666 posted:

Any advice on trying to learn to stop on ice? Been trying the last few weeks at public skates with not much luck. Got just about everything else down pretty good from playing inline for over a year now

I don't suppose you know how to ski, do you? It's exactly like a parallell stop on skis.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Good GOD man, if you don't have bake-able skates then by all means, get you some!

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



bewbies posted:

Yeah. You can get a nice used one off ebay for $20-30, or a new Bauer 4500/CCM V05 for $40-50. As long as it is certified it will be fine.

Not to be all cap'n cautious over here but...don't buy used helmets (for any sport). Most helmets are made for one big whack and then they need to be replaced. If you buy one used, you don't know what kind of beating it's taken or if it's been mistreated. Microfractures in the foam are impossible to spot. Which would be fine if we weren't talking about the possibility of talking like Jeremy Roenick for the rest of your life.

Used is fine for anything else.

Except jocks.

Buy your jock new too.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2011 around 02:37

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



bewbies posted:

This "one and done" thing is really only true for helmets that use EPS (expanded polystyrene); these tend to be helmets designed for activities with much larger and infrequent impacts: biking, skiing, climbing, and motorcycle helmets. As far as I know there are no hockey helmets that use EPS. Expanded polypropylene and vinyl nitrate are the used in every helmet I'm aware of, and neither degrades due to external impacts. I mean...it would be pretty silly to have a hockey helmet you have to trash every single time you get hit. They aren't designed like that for obvious reasons.

Yeah that's true. Hockey helmets are built for multiple impacts and I didn't mean to insinuate that a single hit would necessitate replacement. For hockey I should have put more emphasis on the unknown quantity regarding the helmet's overall condition, though it's still possible to crack EPP, if I understand correctly, given a significant enough impact (e.g. a significantly concussive strike to the ice). For those rocking a vinyl nitrile foam helmet...well...they're going to get concussed anyway so I guess it doesn't matter

I just don't think it's worth buying a helmet whose history is unknown, irrespective of its apparent condition, just to save $30 or so.

e: Urgh. this just reminded me I need to replace my ski helmet.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2011 around 04:24

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Folks, I just came in here to say: When you take a penalty, just go to the loving box!

We had one of our better players take 4 minutes + three games because he couldn't shut the gently caress up about a bad call.

You want to get a guy back for high sticking you or diving or whatever? Get his number and wait until the refs aren't looking. Is this really that hard to figure out?

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Sometimes I wish I were a ref so I could give players poo poo.


Asshat Player: I can't BELIEVE you loving missed that trip?!?! Are you blind???
Me: I can't believe you missed that tape-to-tape pass







Want to play with an eagle-eyed ref with impenetrable skin? Then try out for the Blackhawks.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Apr 5, 2011 around 02:47

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



coldwind posted:

I've always felt that being a bit more cordial about it would be a better way of getting calls. I figured a ref would be more likely to give me a call later on if I hadn't just chewed him out, but I guess I don't really know. I don't take a lot of penalties and I don't draw a lot either.

this.

Refs talk and they will give teams a reputation, especially the worse the ref. If I get a call against me that I think is utter bullshit (happens a lot in C/D league) I ask them what they saw and how, if at all, i might change my tactics in the future to still play hard but not get the call. "Oh, ok cool. So from where you were, it looked like I hooked him? No worries. Now, is it OK if I play the body a little bit or can I play his stick?"

It honestly doesn't change my play much, but it let's me know where the ref's head is at, and it gets him on my side.

Give respect. Get respect.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Our team always likes to joke with the refs. If we get caught offsides by 20 feet, we'll joke with him and say that was a bullshit call. It's usually good for a laugh from them.

When the other team scores I mention that I'm pretty sure I saw a distinct kicking motion. That it might have been a top-shelf wrister from 10 feet out is beside the point.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Holy poo poo. Charge him a buck a word and the rest of your team skates free.

I think you should email him back saying, "Oh poo poo. Sorry. Don't have enough spots."

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Apr 9, 2011 around 05:01

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Don't think of them as crossovers. Think of them as crossunders. Instead of stepping your outside leg over your inside leg as you turn, which will cause you to kind of over-rotate and stomp on the ice, you should be thinking of pushing your inside leg under your outside leg.

e: Also, work on your edges. You're probably not trusting your outside edges enough. There are drills for this. I'm a huge fan of Robby Glantz's stuff. Here's his article on the forward crossunder.

Robby Glantz posted:

Begin by bending the knees deeply, about 2 out over the toe of the skate, with your back straight and chin up. If your knees are too straight, your thighs will hit because you will have no room to crossunder the inside leg.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2011 around 03:09

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



trilljester posted:

I can't stop laughing at this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZcU...feature=related

This guy seriously knows how to stroke it.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



^^^ I kept waiting for the cast of Charles In Charge to appear on the ice.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Petit.Conan posted:

Our pick up game was after a Bantam AAA game last week and it was like trying to skate on the surface of the moon. I asked the rink guy if the zamboni was hosed up and he told me he would have to just scrape it 2-3 times and then flood it before it was "good" again.

Something sounds wrong with the ice - probably too soft to begin with. I play at two rinks, one that has suuuuuper soft ice, and one that has relatively hard ice. Each is home to a junior AA team. Only the rink with the soft ice gets noticeably different after the kids skate on it.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



bigmike posted:

Try playing after sledge hockey. Only time I've ever literally tripped over the blue line.

You should be careful man, it's icy out there

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



coldwind posted:

I will agree, though, I never put black up top. Even playing goal where you don't have your hand up there too often, it just darkens your gloves so fast.

Is this really a thing for people? I usually wear out my palms in about a year, so it doesn't matter what color I've got up there.

I honestly don't think the color of tape really matters at almost any level in terms of tactics. Hrm...although now that I'm watching the Broons/Habs game, almost every one of those guys has black tape.

e: A guy on my team uses camo tape



We give him all kinds of poo poo.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at Apr 22, 2011 around 01:26

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



^^ I retape when the tape+wax gets torn up enough to either

a) effect the contact of the puck on the blade (not a relatively smooth surface).
b) wears off the bottom of the blade, putting the bottom of the blade in direct contact with the ice.

That usually winds up being every four or five games/stick-and-pucks/drop-ins.

coldwind posted:

Maybe not. I dunno, the palms on all my gloves look pretty gross.

You do realize you keep your sweaty hand in there for an hour or so every game, right? It ain't the ink that makes hockey gear gross

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Fingers McGee posted:

Also for being stuck on D forever after being put there in last years clinic, I made a transition to fwd this year. I even signed up as a D man, but I think my passing abilities are wasted playing D. I had an offensive explosion in the last 2 sessions. Although I still didn't score any myself, hitting 3 posts instead.

Wait, what? The best passers on the team should be the defenseman.

Green Submarine posted:

Go to TJ Maxx and buy a cheap-o candle. Seriously.

QFT.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Oh god, my lunch-league team

If you enjoy literally just giving up on the play after you've lost a race to the puck, and taking 3+ minute shifts, please consider signing up for my team.

I swear I don't care if a team goes 0-10. Just put forth some loving

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



poser posted:

The wingers played along the boards(correctly) in the D zone but the D always cleared it to the center(right to the other team) looking for the home run pass.

This kills me. Not throwing it up the middle is the cardinal rule of defense. I get so pissed when I see guys make that play, because it's not about a lack of skill but a lack of decision making.

That, and wrapping it up the boards. Now that I'm looking for it, you'd be amazed at how often a D-man wrapping the puck around the boards results in a turn-over. Probably ~60% of the time at least. Tape-to-tape pass, get it out of the zone off the glass, or eat it.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Doesn't black tape rub off on the puck, though?

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Yup. Put more weight on your stick.

I'm 5'8" 157lbs and I use a slightly-cut-down 85 flex. Seems about right.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



UnmaskedGremlin posted:

kid stoke

haha...dude I'm totally in your boat. My son is 10 months and I can't wait to teach him how to skate and make sports times.

--

First game of the playoffs on Sunday. Wish us luck.

"One, two, three...hard work!"

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Went down to stick and puck today to grab some video of myself. It's worse than I though. I don't know what it is but I can't develop my snap shot to save my life.

Video 1 - wherein I kick my back foot off to the side to generate zero power.
Video 2 - wherein I nearly destroy my iPhone at :30
Video 3 - wherein the gentleman in maroon used to play for DU but...something...something...I'm too far away.

Any advice on that snappah would be greatly appreciated.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



bewbies posted:

Also is that the rink in the old hangar at Lowry AFB?

Indeed it is. Big Bear.

Thanks for the critique. Sometimes you hit a wall and just need someone to tell you what you're doing wrong.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Squidbeak posted:

I have no advice to offer but you should seriously send this to Apple

I've never own a product of theirs but it's so high quality it could end up in something somewhere

Err...my wife just informed me that it looks like I actually hit my iPhone with a puck in this video, which didn't happen. The puck hit the glass about a foot above my phone and the impact knocked my phone off the dasher onto the ice below.

I'm pretty sure if I hit my iPhone head on it would explode. But I'm not willing to test this theory.

In retrospect, I now realize why you guys thought this video was so interesting

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



coldwind posted:

I knew. There's no way a phone takes that kinda shot.

I'm just surprised you put it back up and then started taking harder shots.

That's just how I roll.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Won our first playoff game today. Ref missed two of our goals, so despite pulling it out in overtime, we really won 4-1.

Pee Wee/Bantam kids had the ice before us, so it was super choppy. But it was worth it because Adam Foote was one of the coaches. Dude was standing eight feet outisde our locker room bullshitting with one of the other coaches.

None of us had the balls to tell him we needed a sub on D.

He still looks like he could beat the poo poo out of everyone in the arena. All at once.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Denver. This place is turning into such a chill hockey town.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Warrior sticks.

If you can afford it, Warrior gloves.

That is all.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Lawnie posted:

to be fair I'm also really bad since i just started playing a few months ago but this kid is just terrible. skates slowly to pucks, can't turn forward to backward (or even the other way around, really), and weakly flicks the puck around the D zone. it's really frustrating to play with him.

Is he trying?

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Lawnie posted:

i think so. he's really tall and awkward as gently caress on his skates, but he's definitely trying.

Then I'd let it slide. As long as people are giving 110% on the ice, I tend to believe they'll get better eventually. What pisses me off are the folks that coast, no matter how good they are.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



Nizox posted:

What do you win though? I feel the same way, but I also check my emotions at the door when it's beer league hockey.

This. There are no scouts in the stands. Barry Trotz isn't calling anyone up in case Shea Weber gets a lower body injury in Game 4. This is low-level beer league. Everyone's loving up passes and making bad decisions pretty consistently.

As long as they're doing their best to play hard and get better, shifting hard and working hard, who cares as long as the skill level is even remotely proximate?

Flip side: I've been the worst guy on a B league team. It was frustrating as hell. I'm a decent skater, and most of the guys out there were happy to just be playing. But what absolutely killed the experience for me was the one guy on our team who was a complete douche about it. Chiding me for not making plays, always calling for the puck when it was on my stick because he thought he could make a better play.

Do any of us here really want to be that guy? In some no-name league with nothing on the line except whether or not the guys in the locker room think you're a prick?

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Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



^^^ You can get the rivets redone. IIRC it's around $20 per skate.

Playoffs tonight: some guy actually goes down to block my slap-shot like it's the damned NHL. The shot gets redirected off his skate beats the goalie to the near post

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