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juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

Sage Francis is actually a very good MC and is someone who I think the way a lot of his fanbase reacts to him really colors how other people view him. I didn't listen to his last album really (still mean to), but I liked everything before that.

i don't know about that there are few rappers who are more soullessly boring than sage francis

# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 05:26

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 04:06

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

I don't know where you guys are getting boring, unless you're just totally turned off by a lot of his subject matter. I can't think of much rap I'd actually consider boring actually (Common and the Roots last few albums, a bunch of the throwback 90's poo poo, almost anything from the early/mid 80's). There's a lot I'd consider bad, but hardly anything boring. As for soulless, I don't see how anyone who actually did listen to Sage could justify that claim whatsoever.

I'm not questioning his skills on the mic or whatever but white dude angst poetry is the worst type of rap. same thing with saul williams and the streets, its hip hop for people who don't listen to hip hop

# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 12:43

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

Where have I been proven wrong? 90% of southern rap is objectively bad, and if you disagree you're wrong. If you listen to garbage music that's fine, but don't try to project on me.

what type of southern rap do you consider to be good?

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 00:25

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

There's only a handful of southern dudes I'd consider good rappers, or even average: Outkast, Luda, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Wayne, T.I., Goodie Mob, Krit...that's about all I can think of. When Krit's first album came out it took me a few months to bother listening to it cause I heard he was from the south (and I was quite surprised).

don't forget currensy

well here imma put you on to some down south artists that most sleep on:
http://youtu.be/KEJunbvg-1I
http://youtu.be/gh4kr1G7pys
http://youtu.be/dAtaUX2db2s
http://youtu.be/jt4xDMjIJew
http://youtu.be/_KfGCCC2ntE
http://youtu.be/alqxe9brQzg

if you can't gently caress with any of those records then you're a herb

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 02:24

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

Couple of those I've heard before (Mac and 8ball & MJG, think my friend even had that album), wasn't impressed then and still remain unimpressed. 3 of the others were pretty much junk. Apparently having the actual ability to rap is optional for most southern poo poo.

But I was really really digging that Mass Influence track. IMO deserves the highest praise southern rappers can get: it doesn't even sound like southern rap! I'll def check for more of that.

hip hop isn't always about being lyrical all the time. group home and ODB weren't lyrical but they made classic music. I sense that you're a hip hop herb that takes this poo poo way too seriously

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 15:21

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

TBH if you're gonna speak about what hip-hop is, it would add more weight if your screen name was KRS-1 rather than some southern clown. Also I don't know how you could pick Group Home and ODB as not being lyrical, that's just retarded. I agree that you don't have to be lyrical all the time, but it is good if you have at least some basic ability to rap. Most southern dudes don't even have that basic ability, sorry. On top of that, the production is hit-or-miss.

It's ok if you like bad music, people (probably) won't think less of you. I sense you're insecure about your bad taste and lash out childishly whenever people call you on it.

you're a super regressive hip hop fan dude. hip hop was partially born in parties and clubs and a lot of down south poo poo is a modern extension of that.

I like KRS 1 alot too but you're crazy if you think he's done anything relevant with his last few albums. he was the poo poo back in the c delores tucker days but he's just boring now. the only people who buy his albums today are 40 year olds and europeans

also, you don't know what you're talking about if you think group home and ODB are lyrical. premier even admitted that dap and mal couldn't rhyme well, and ODB's draw was his personality not his mic skills

juicy_J fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 31, 2011

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 19:57

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

if it was 1995 right now alansmithee would be complaining about mobb deep being ignorant while he listened to afrika bambaataa tapes wondering why nobody wanted to hang out with him

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 20:26

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

Wouldn't making music now that isn't any different or better than poo poo made 30 years ago be considered regressive? The problem with south poo poo isn't that it can be played at parties, the problem is that outside of parties it's mostly unlistenable. ANY music with a halfway danceable beat is party music. The problem with the south (as I've repeatedly pointed out) is that the actual MC (the guy supposedly rapping) rarely, if ever, can do that. So you have songs that would be better as instrumentals (maybe get some R&B dude to sing a hook). I mean compare it to hyphy which is definitely party music-the vast majority of those dudes actually add something being on the track. The vast majority of southern dudes take poo poo away from being on a track. And that's why it's bad music.

The KRS-1 thing was because he's also someone else who likes to spout about what hip-hop is. I haven't heard anything he's done I liked in the last 20 years.

I don't think Group Home was that bad lyrically (if they grew up in the south they'd sound like Rakim or something comparatively) but ODB's first album def was lyrically nice. Second wasn't at the same level as far as rhymes go but the first was on point for sure.

http://youtu.be/3M7jMZ3iNyM

# ¿ Mar 31, 2011 23:30

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

chopper city posted:

Good golly Eminem is middle school music what is wrong with you folks/where were you raised.

Someone link up some hardcore underground gangster rap that nobody has heard of.
Or stuff that sounds like Hot Boys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MAOHCWLsdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJBmAz37mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asm90PPKD9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rd0RX0AztE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpS4c8gt8QA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9ewzr2Hj8

drat all this poo poo is tight

# ¿ Apr 7, 2011 00:28

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

lif is really ill, I def agree that he's got a unique ability to talk about political poo poo without sounding like immortal technique. Did this joint with Guru (rest in power): http://youtu.be/U1aJ8MzClyc

# ¿ Apr 13, 2011 12:48

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

I think goodie mob's been back together for a while now. I remember seeing them on jimmy fallon at least a year ago performing soul food

# ¿ Apr 21, 2011 20:41

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

unkut and TROY blog are tight but they don't cover homo rap/mainstream stuff at all. cocaine blunts is cool too but is rarely updated. my favorite poo poo is http://www.realniggatumblr.com/

# ¿ Apr 26, 2011 13:55

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

The nanny thing was more a crack at the accent (and him being soft).

Yo man, some people listen to rap they didn't find on a Starbucks sampler CD. Now you're obviously not one of those dudes. But if you really are too dense to understand not everyone hears their rap in a coffee shop, maybe it's not the genre for you.

Also I'm not really comfortable with you talking about my bigass balls like that.

??? this is exactly why people listen to grimey down south rap

# ¿ Apr 27, 2011 22:51

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

So what are like 5 essential releases from the last 2 years I should check out? The amount of mixtapes I missed is huge and I can't tackle that with out some direction.

seconding the Rubba Band Business mixtapes. also check out Gunplay's Inglorious Bastard and Troy Ave's Bricks in my Backpack

# ¿ May 8, 2011 13:43

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

shyne was pretty good back in the day but I don't think he was as good as people remember

I always thought that the biggest lost potential was Killa Sin. dude probably had at least one classic solo album in him back during the killarmy days. unfortunately he's locked up right now and is also beefing with 9th prince so he won't be on the new killarmy album.

# ¿ May 19, 2011 01:06

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

I'm disappointed this isn't an awesome record. that bruno mars joint is whack as fuckkkk

# ¿ Jun 5, 2011 01:23

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

caveman thug poo poo posted:

i dont expect em (or royce really) to ever make an awesome record again, i'm cool with just being impressed enough to make that gorilla gas face a couple times, which happened so i guess all is well.

bad meets evil should have just been a benzino diss album then it would have been awesome

# ¿ Jun 5, 2011 16:56

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

x TOMMYBOY x posted:

Anyone have any thoughts on Ye's critical darling a couple months later? I recently found the cd after forgetting about it for a while, and, after polishing off some of the scratches, popped it in today. I found myself skipping the singles but the other songs still sound pretty good to me. I think So Appalled might actually emerge as my personal favorite now.

it sucked then and it sucks now

# ¿ Jun 23, 2011 15:13

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

that was "no fear"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?xUDNMmbYtkw

# ¿ Jul 1, 2011 06:25

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

I wish lil b would make more joints like this:

http://youtu.be/5I-hDgEKSW8
http://youtu.be/OLKuoklj1bo
http://youtu.be/sJfBV_OQ-T4

he needs to step up the QC cause he can spit if he tries

# ¿ Aug 24, 2011 17:50

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

dethkon posted:

Prodigy - Ellsworth Bumpy Whatever: I thought this was a great return to form for Prodigy, straight out the box. I dared get my hopes up that prison hadn't destroyed P's ability to rhyme, only to have them expertly smashed by this career-ending poo poo. What a shame. The EP is still decent, though.

nonsense P is still ill have you heard these verses since he got out:
http://youtu.be/abxRn7Gn5bE
http://youtu.be/eb8-tZgPkz4
http://youtu.be/exwhUGaw1pY

# ¿ Sep 8, 2011 07:34

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

dethkon posted:

I liked Bumpy Johnson (no homo). It just shook me to hear P use that Waka Flocka beat. But yes, honestly he's had more good verses/tracks then bad ones since he got out.

I think P was saying that there was gonna be a waka collab on the new mobb deep album, I can't wait for that poo poo

# ¿ Sep 8, 2011 17:45

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

roc marciano didn't get much love here but marcberg was by far the best album of 2010

# ¿ Sep 9, 2011 01:24

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

I disagree, i don't think it was a throwback album. the production and lyricism were progressive though he captured a golden era feel. I got more of a modern day curtis mayfield superfly vibe from it than illmatic.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2011 02:06

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

hahaha thats even better than this one: http://youtu.be/8DqTG9-M56k

# ¿ Sep 11, 2011 19:14

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

fatigues and timbs rap is the best kind of rap

# ¿ Oct 6, 2011 13:34

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Most of the no name people impressed me the most (Nitty Scott, MC especially). The only really bad one was that Chis Brown group and Lady of Rage was kind of disappointing surprisingly.

On a similar tip, I asked in the rec thread but no one answered, you guys know of any other tough female MCs like Lady of Rage or La Chat?

Lin Que http://youtu.be/rWF5owcnCrY
Boss http://youtu.be/yYjwGXoXI8A
Shazzy http://youtu.be/c_wKTyMbQYo

# ¿ Oct 13, 2011 01:08

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

Childish Gambino is the epitome of lazy and creatively uninteresting though. Same with Wale and J Cole.

get a loving Kool G Rap album if you don't want to be a scrub

# ¿ Oct 19, 2011 00:11

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

farmtrill posted:

also lets all get hype for the waka + french mixtape

That's gonna be loving awesome based solely on hearing this: http://youtu.be/lhFLdNFd1qg

# ¿ Oct 19, 2011 00:52

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

Jock Mocken posted:

while I think everyone should do their scholarship and all that I don't think Kool G Rap is really the place to start for someone who would ask for recs that "aren't straight gangster." maybe Scarface would be better? I dunno

I know but how else are you gonna cure the tumor left by listening to childish gambino and j cole?

# ¿ Oct 19, 2011 00:56

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

Did we talk about Hopsin yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULBnef6w6k

Edit: I can't tell if I like it, or just like the beat.

this dude is like like a combination of ICP and slim shady (garbage)

# ¿ Oct 20, 2011 00:31

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

cryme posted:

Who the gently caress cares about either of them?

COSIGN

# ¿ Oct 29, 2011 20:32

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

I feel like nobody is talking about the new lloyd banks mixtape. it's really good:

http://youtu.be/-gBNJxrlbmE
http://youtu.be/4BUXt_jZpLU
http://youtu.be/HlxtoIhLo9A

# ¿ Nov 15, 2011 04:46

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

farmtrill posted:

the action bronson + statik album is out, he also got one coming with harry fraud (french montanas producer) and alchemist. for those who aint heard harry fraud he is dropping some amazing poo poo right now. grab french - coke boys 2 and chinx drugs - flight 2011 if you wanna hear his poo poo and be WAVVVVVY as hell.

also there is a new master p mixtape out (for those that care )

Love that harry fraud brought back this beat:
http://youtu.be/J3zpI5aYx-k
for
http://youtu.be/PT-mYk2Q0RY

# ¿ Nov 19, 2011 17:58

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

Roots are now one of the few groups make adult contemporary rap

# ¿ Dec 2, 2011 00:58

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

http://youtu.be/Q3PKa8z3M1g

I don't like the dirty version of protect ya neck as much, those cuts on ODB's verse are classic.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2011 03:24

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

kill the asher roth talk and get the new French Montana/Waka Flocka and French Montana/Juicy J/Project Pat tapes, because they go hard as gently caress

# ¿ Dec 29, 2011 01:19

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

every french montana mixtape, especially cocaine mafia

# ¿ Jan 7, 2012 07:51

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

if this thread existed in 1997 people would be hating on big pun for being a kool g rap clone

also there are plenty non-lyrical new york dudes that everyone loves: ODB, Noreaga, Group Home, Cam'ron

# ¿ Jan 20, 2012 01:21

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 04:06

juicy_J: Jun 25, 2004; I.O.U. one gmail invite

Action never really sounded like ghost to me, he was more of a big pun/g rap disciple.

Dude releases so much music I can't really hate if he puts out some poo poo I don't love. I appreciate the well-crafted album verse and the fun riff raff feature equally

# ¿ Feb 10, 2012 00:58

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