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Paul Pope (from "One Hundred Percent"): Carla Speed McNeil (from "Finder"): Darwyn Cooke (from "Parker: the Hunter"): Sean Murphy (from "Joe the Barbarian"):
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2011 22:50 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 03:46 |
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muscles like this? posted:While I like Paul Pope in general he has this problem where characters he draws end up kind of... ugly. Not poorly drawn but just kind of ugly in general. I've always felt that his characters often come across as very deliberately imperfect. Even the good-looking ones can feel more real because they're rarely drawn with perfect, model-like expressions.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2011 10:31 |
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Zachack posted:
This isn't the first time this has happened, but I am not Cefte. I do understand the confusion, as there are a number of us with b/w avatars of a dead author and I understand we tend to blend together like supernatural investigators wearing trenchcoats.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2011 10:12 |
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Matt Cruea posted:My favorite comic artists are dead.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2011 22:08 |
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Geekboy posted:How dare he draw in a stylized manner! Incompetence is not a "style", regardless of how much DeviantArt kids want it to be.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2011 02:45 |
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Accusing people who dislike Ramos as having a problem with stylization in general is kind of insulting.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2011 22:47 |
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I think we've been pretty drat specific about why we don't like Ramos. His anatomy is consistently bad. It is not bad because it is stylized; it is bad because it is wrong. Other artists with heavy levels of stylization make anatomical mistakes sometimes. Ramos does it constantly. Therefore, we think he is not a good artist and do not like looking at his material.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2011 23:07 |
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Endless Mike posted:You could change Ramos to Kirby here and it would be just as accurate. No, not really. If you're not capable of recognizing the difference between "stylized" and "wrong", then I can't really say anything to change your mind. I'm glad you have a wider variety of artists whose work you can enjoy, I guess?
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 00:41 |
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That page conveys to me that there is a new superhero named Giraffeman. No words required.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 00:45 |
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JackDarko posted:Exactly all you are referring to is his drat style not the storytelling. You don't like his anatomy so he's a bad artist. Well, yes. His anatomy is demonstrably bad. Therefore he is a bad artist. This is not a subjective thing, any more than perspective is. And giving Spiderman a monstrously long neck in a static profile shot does not serve any purpose, either. He's not supposed to have one. It doesn't make him look more Spiderman-like. It doesn't make the page layouts better, it doesn't improve the action in the panel (since it doesn't have any). It just makes him look weird. Stylization is supposed to serve a purpose. Drawing things incorrectly without any reason isn't a style, it's just incompetence, or possibly laziness. I don't know if Ramos doesn't know how to draw people consistently correct, or if he just doesn't give a poo poo, but either way I don't like looking at his comics.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 01:09 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:The elongated neck actually does help show the relationship between Spiderman and Dr Oct. It helps show Spiderman as taller but more slender and fragile, conveying someone more powerful but who can still be taken down, while Ock is small and blocky, like a pitbull. Oh, I see, Ramos is trying to convey things, he's just terrible at it, so Spiderman looks deformed instead of slender. Got it.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 02:38 |
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Lurdiak posted:Heresiarch is apparently more patient than the rest of us, or more stubborn. No, I just plain forgot that this is an argument that never goes anywhere. Heresiarch fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Oct 24, 2011 |
# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 05:20 |
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Pablo Gigante posted:I don't think that page is good storytelling because the perspective and depth is all messed up and changes between panels. In the second panel it looks like Spidey is backed up directly against whatever's behind him, but in every other panel there's a lot of space. Also the ground in the last panel looks really weird and flat, or like they're standing on a log or something. You're so mean! That's just your opinion! You have certainly pulled from a myriad of examples and backed up your opinions with facts and principles!
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 19:24 |
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In the interest of rebooting the thread: Darwyn Cooke - Parker: The Hunter David Mazzucchelli - Asterios Polyp Michael Zulli - Grendel: Red, White, and Black Mike Huddleston - The Coffin
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2011 05:17 |
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I have to assume that Kyle Baker was on a deadline or something because I know he can do better than that.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2012 01:35 |
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Baron Bifford posted:How is Liefeld as a writer? Do you really have to ask?
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2012 11:21 |
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Kelly Jones is actually a lot more capable than that, which makes it even more sad.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2012 19:35 |
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FMguru posted:And yes, in case people were wondering, this is an attempted Doctor Fate reboot.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2012 22:35 |
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Die Laughing posted:the recoloring of Flex Mentallo Wait, what?
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 22:23 |
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I've got mixed feelings about that, yeah. The new coloring is good, but the old coloring had a certain something to it.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 22:30 |
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HorseHeadBed posted:I don't read a lot of comics, but the art in the Avengers vs X-Men #2 seemed egregiously horrible. The two teams facing off should be a BIG MOMENT, but they all look so strange that I just felt embarrassed for them all. Is this... John Romita, Jr? It looks kinda like his stuff, only if somebody else inked it really badly.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2012 01:51 |
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Gantz is racist, misogynistic gore-porn so can we please skip it?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2012 13:16 |
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It was difficult to pick which of Kaare Andrews' illustrations of Emma Frost from "Astonishing X-Men: Xenogenesis" was the worst, so I'm just going to go with this one from issue #1, which also features his complete inability to draw Hisako's face properly.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 05:20 |
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"Xenogenesis" is full of terrible art of all the characters, it's just that Emma was consistently awful throughout. If it was an "experiment", it was a catastrophic failure and I have no idea why Kaare Andrews thought that what he was doing was a good idea. I knew I was in for something special when this showed up on page 12 of the first issue.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 07:16 |
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I can only assume that the folks defending Andrews have not actually read "Xenogenesis", because holy crap does every human being in it look awful. Some of them just look worse than others. He may have done okay work elsewhere but this is indefensible stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 09:03 |
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Wait, aren't Rein-East and Sharpsmooth in that "Glory" page from the recent "Prophet" reboot thing? Which is set like ten thousand years in the future? Or are they old obscure Image characters too? (I would post pages from the recent "Prophet" reboot by Graham et al but where do you even begin to choose which ones?)
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2013 13:34 |
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People who aren't Quitely fans because they don't like how he drew the X-Men or JLA should look at Jupiter's Legacy, which just came out.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 04:12 |
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Yeah, it's Millar so the writing is crap (and heavy-handed even for Millar) but the art is good.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 04:48 |
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Tradd Moore's work on "Luther Strode" from image is really good, but applying his style to existing characters somehow doesn't work very well.
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# ¿ May 24, 2013 19:18 |
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Does anybody have any scans from "The Wake"? Sean Phillips is on the art and holy poo poo is it good. It's also very well colored, pretty much the opposite of the garish gradients this thread was talking about earlier. [edit] Guh, I meant Sean Murphy, sorry about that. Still a fantastically well-drawn book. Heresiarch fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jun 1, 2013 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2013 02:28 |
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Isn't "Christopher Hart" one of those house names? The art in those drat things never looks the same between books.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2013 18:44 |
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Posting Mazzucchelli and Eisner in this thread is cheating.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2013 19:01 |
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On the other hand without Liefeld we wouldn't have Supreme: Blue Rose, which may be one of the best-drawn books coming out right now (in addition to having Warren Ellis firing on all cylinders). Can somebody with images post some pages from it? It completely deserves to be in this thread.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2014 00:40 |
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So yeah, Tula Lotay on "Supreme: Blue Rose". Linked to fullsize. First four pages of issue #2.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2014 13:40 |
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That's Barry Windsor-Smith and he's actually quite good. To quote his wikipedia page:quote:Windsor-Smith also provided the art for a number of other Marvel Comics titles, including the Ka-Zar stories in Astonishing Tales #3–6 (December 1970 – June 1971) and No. 10 (February 1972),[12] three further issues of The Avengers (#98–100, April–June 1972)[13] – about which he would later remember the nightmare of drawing "all those bloody characters that I didn't give tuppence about",[3]
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2014 20:07 |
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How can you not realize that's Batman with the cape right there?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2014 03:57 |
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It's a completely standard thing in manga (usually done with screentones) and Karl Kerschl's art style is clearly inspired by a lot of different sources including Japanese ones.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2014 13:41 |
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His pages in Sandman: Endless Nights were probably some of his best work, being inked and colored by him too. He's credited as a "painter" but I'm assuming the whole thing was done digitally.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2014 00:18 |
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Also the new credits for that issue (from the digital re-release): Note who's missing.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2015 09:00 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 03:46 |
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GrandpaPants posted:Having just recently read Lord of Light, that is not at all how I pictured any of the characters Was I not doing enough acid while I was reading? Not at all. Lord of Light was written in a way which leaves a huge amount up to the reader to fill in, which is very different from a lot of modern fantasy where they spend a page and a half on on somebody's belt buckle. quote:Despite his tall from favor, Yama was still deemed mightiest of the artificers, though it was not doubted that the Gods of the City would have him to die the real death were they to learn of the pray-machine. For that matter, though, it was not doubted that they would have him to die the real death without the excuse of the pray-machine, also, were he to come into their custody. How he would settle this matter with the Lords of Karma was his own affair, though none doubted that when the time came he would find a way. He was half as old as the Celestial City itself, and not more than ten of the gods remembered the founding of that abode. He was known to be wiser even than the Lord Kubera in the ways of the Universal Fire. But these were his lesser Attributes. He was best known for another thing, though few men spoke of it. Tall, but not overly so; big, but not heavy; his movements, slow and fluent. He wore red and spoke little. This remains one of my favorite character descriptions that I've ever read, because there's almost nothing there, but what is there is very tightly crafted and tells you everything you need to know, while at the same time leaving nearly everything else open to interpretation.
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