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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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bestericaever posted:

What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? is a great Bette Davis/Joan Crawford film about sibling jealousy. One a formerly famous child actress and the other a glamorous Hollywood starlet, they've been shuttered from society for decades following a suspicious car accident. Features alcoholism, mental illness, emotional and physical abuse, eccentricity, and Bette Davis's wonderfully expressive face.

This movie is definitely a must see.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

I hated it the first time I saw it because I had such a visceral reaction to Bette Davis's character. Looking back, it's fantastic.

She is the creepiest poo poo. She even manages to be the creepiest part of another movie from that role (her cameo in the new House of Wax)

I think the lighting is a big part of what makes the movie effective.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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the Bunt posted:

You always see mother-daughter stuff in horror, and not nearly enough father-daughter arcs.

Not positive father-daughter arcs, anyway.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Yes, but it involves [klaxon]Religion[/klaxon]

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Craig Spradlin posted:

It's too gory to qualify for this thread, but dismissing Martyrs as "just...nihilistic torture porn" is selling it very, very short.

I would go so far as to say it misses the point entirely.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I had a blast with American Horror Story. The second season is apparently going to have an entirely different cast from the first.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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That owns. It's such a unique show, its got that weird feel that they think they're going to get cancelled after every episode so they go all out.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Triangulum posted:

Dude it got some of the highest ratings FX has ever seen so we very well may get a couple seasons out of it :3:

Oh I knew that. I just appreciate the lack of the restraint on the show, because it would have been easier to do a very conservative slow burn. But every single episode goes for every crazy idea it can think of - it's not just a horror story, it's a horror universe.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I like how you say it has no point, then in the very next sentence explain the point of the movie which is hinted at in the title of the movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Loomer posted:

Well, that's because I don't think it was actually intentional on their part to pose that question. I think they just set out to make a film with the standard 'who's the real monster' twist, not to get us thinking about that twist in any meaningful capacity.

Mind you, I'm essentially a goddamn retard, so my perceptions are probably wrong.

I don't know, "martyr" is not a neutral word, especially given the origin of the genre, it's film antecedents, etc. I could agree with being turned off by the way it's executed - but give yourself some credit, you did correctly identify what the movie is swinging for.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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adamj1982 posted:

I didn't think it was possible, but you have kind of changed my mind, just a little bit, about that movie. That explanation should be included as an insert in the dvd or something, it really made me consider it in a way I hadn't after watching. I think many people, such as myself, are so put off and disgusted by the end of the film we just want to turn it off and forget it.

The explanation is in the title of the movie. I'm not saying it's totally obvious, but it doesn't need all that much outside of the movie to understand what it refers to.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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mysterious frankie posted:

Ghostwatch is a fun little movie. It's a real slow burner though. I'd say jump in and give it a shot, but keep in mind it rrrrrreally takes its time to get where it's going. Depending on your friends, you might want to watch it alone, because there's a good chance they will start talking over it after the first twenty minutes.

I'd agree, with the added endorsement that Ghostwatch owns. I have been meaning to see The Stone Tape, as I love Nigel Kneale (as everyone should).

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Year of the Sex Olympics is exactly what it sounds like, a good companion to Nicholas Roeg's Performance and Peter Watkins' Privilege - musty and trippy. Lots of fur-lined interiors and awful haircuts.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Fun fact: that Bowie song is what inspired Lynch to make Lost Highway in the first place.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Dissapointed Owl posted:

Sometimes I feel like the only one who didn't care at all for Session 9. :smith:

I think it's quite lame although it's fun to watch David Caruso try to play it straight for once.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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kaworu posted:

edit: I also wanted to add what an incredible performance an 18-year-old Juliette Lewis gives in Cape Fear. I don't even think a performance like that would be allowed today, because she pretty intensely and unflinchingly portrays the character with an extremely youthful, vulnerable sexuality, particularly in the scenes with De Niro's character, whom we know from the start of the film was in prison for raping and battering a 16-year-old girl. Some of those scenes between De Niro and Lewis are intense and upsetting in ways that you just do not see in many films anymore, because most directors wouldn't be willing to go to that place the way Scorsese does here.

Watch Killer Joe.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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As a side note I've always found it funny that Johnathan Katz has a credit in House of Games, because he and David Mamet were college roommates (and ping pong hustlers).

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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justlikedunkirk posted:

Probably the whole prank by the son to suggest she's alive.

Actually, I would probably say he's talking about the neighbor thing. That bothered the hell out of me the first time I saw it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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priznat posted:

The scene with the intercutting of the two psychic consults was pretty devastating. Really drove home the distance between mother and daughter and the lack of meaningful closure. That made me the saddest of all, really.

It's also the clearest reference to Twin Peaks.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Twin Peaks has been on Instant for as long as I can remember so I don't think it'll be going away any time soon. But I have to say, anyone who hasn't seen it needs to see it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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discoukulele posted:

I'm trying to go through the movies in this thread, and I just finished Special Bulletin earlier today. I can't get it out of my head. I absolutely love Ghostwatch, so this was the perfect follow-up for it.

The thing that I can't get out of my head is (major spoilers)I can't believe how audacious the ending is. Especially the reporter realizing on air that she's just likely been contaminated..

So good.

Watch Without Warning (1994) right now.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Occult is a great companion for God Told Me To.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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MisterBibs posted:

Late edit: I've finally realized why a part of LM is so familiar to me. There was once a story on the SCP Foundation website that explained (within the confines of the story's universe), the boogiemen children see are actually the premonitional spirits of what they'll look like at the moment of their death, just like what happens to Alice.

Right, just a modernized doppleganger. A doppleganger is always a premonition of death or disaster.

MisterBibs posted:

The weirdest thing about the threesome subplot (which I agree seemed a bit 'off' and didn't feel too connected to the plot) was that after talking about it very somberly, the next people interviewed were her teenage friends at a pool, wearing bikinis.

I would argue it's the central event of the film.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Part one of the film is "she's not who they think she is." Part two of the film, after that event, is "they liked not knowing who she was better".

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Sep 14, 2007

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MisterBibs posted:

:aaa: That's an outstanding way of putting things, and might have single-handledly changed that entire scene for me.

Another random thought, because I've been watching the movie a few times owing to the discussions going on: I think it was pretty interesting just how might weight the June (the mom) had on the family, and how those outside the family interacted with it. The mom didn't want to identify Alice's body. The spoken reason for the son faking pictures of Ghost Alice was to give his mom some hope. When talking about the footage Alice's friends took, the boyfriend defines it as "Telling June" about it.
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Time to bring up Twin Peaks again.

Maddy Ferguson, the long lost cousin is both a silly soap opera trope and an eerie David Lynch thing: she is a corporeal ghost. She is an identical twin who is also everything everyone wishes Laura was (aside from being a bit boring). June's consultation with the medium/psychiatrist who saw Alice in secret also parallels really well with the Laura Palmer tapes subplot with Russ Tamblyn: June is also a double of Alice - she is perhaps the one that understands her daughter best and is similarly impenetrable. Her reaction is perhaps the most inexplicable, the thing where she just wanders into people's homes in the middle of the night is something the film only briefly touches on.

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Take the sex tape, for example. The Dad immediately sides with his daughter: "I think I'd choke him if he was here.". The mom says she felt sad, but I took it more as a judgement on Alice herself, and/or embarrassed about what Alice had done.

She understands better than her son and husband, but won't let on. Said about Alice: "She kept the fact that she kept secrets a secret." June is distant and regrettably mum about her understanding but the actress conveys it well with her face. Even without the twinning/dream reading thing, you get the sense that she has a better understanding than Russell or her son.

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In non-LM thoughts: Do you think we'll get to a point where even the shittiest of phones/commonly-used cameras are capable of the visual quality that ruins the found-footage concept entirely? One of the rare parts of LM that didn't work was just how badly the camera was. You could barely see some of the things you're supposed to.

No, cause then movies will be 8K and cellphone cameras will still be 1080p or whatever they get up to now.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Glad you liked Mama.

What I mean by that, not to put a button on it and kill it dead, that the film makes pretty abundantly clear that June is Alice. I'm not suggesting she is a future time traveler or something but that as a young woman, perhaps she embarrassed/disappointed her parents and withdrew from her friends, or something similar. This is part of the point of having the same dream independently. "Understanding" is probably not the word I'm thinking of, "empathy" probably is. Her sadness is empathy, she doesn't have a kneejerk reaction or express bafflement, nor does she speculate on Alice's motive (that I recall, could be wrong about that).

I don't want to be pat about that because the film is about these complex and difficult to parse reactions to grief so it doesn't just boil down to one thing, but I think that's at the heart of June's reaction

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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High-Rise is one of my favorite novels and Wheatley is one of the more interesting directors working in horror today. Don't need much more to sell me there.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I love Melancholia, a lot.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Shivers was the first feature length, IIRC.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Why in the world would you spoil that?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Timecrimes owns. What the hell has happened to this forum.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I feel a post coming on about Timecrimes coming on because this is the Psychological Horror/Triller (Not Goreporn) + Sci-Fi-Thriller Films thread.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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What, really?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I never noticed that, just like I never noticed that Wez from Road Warrior is Bennett.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Reason posted:

How do people feel about Enemy?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316411/

Excellent. It and Under The Skin are my two favorite movies so far this year.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Dalai Lamacide posted:

What year was it made? There are two I can see on netflix.

2014. It's still in theaters.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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Put a bookmark on it because it will surely be on Netflix in a few months.

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Sep 14, 2007

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flashy_mcflash posted:

Here's my impressions of Sacrament from the Toronto fest this year. I don't think they've changed much or would change on a second viewing.

You were 100% correct, by the way.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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I maintain that that is far more than weird trivia for that film, given the character she played.

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Sep 14, 2007

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Blisster posted:

I've seen Martha Marcy May Marlene mentioned a few times, but had anyone checked out Simon Killer? A lot of the same people are involved. I don't think it's quite as good, but that's more because Marcy is one of my favourite movies. I really like the way Simon Killer is shot. The camera is always getting blocked by objects and people in front of the main characters, and there's some interesting and important scenes where you can't see anyone's faces. It's got this great constricted feeling as the camera follows the back of Simon's head while he's blasting loud electronic music in his ears. It's more of a thriller than horror though.

I watched Kill List recently and I think I really liked it. Really brutal and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the ending, but the feeling of dread in that movie is pretty incredible.

Thanks for recommending this. I think I knew the name, but had never seen it.

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